RE: Lotus Exige Sport 380
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Looks are obviously subjective but enough people have commented on its lack of sleekness.
Every little change they've done over the years has been an improvement but regardless of all the clever little changes it's still this:
And unfortunately it does look really rather dumpy from a lot of angles. I've always thought it was basically a 150k car trapped in a £50k shell. I very much suspect that if it had a sleeker look far fewer people would pop up in these threads lamenting the Esprit because it's pretty clear just how much better the Evora is in every way but one. I think it's even a couple of inches lower than the Esprit but there's something about the design that makes it look so much taller.
The odd thing about the Evora is that the proportions look weirdly dumpy in photos but in the flesh it looks really quite... sleek, I suppose is the word. Every little change they've done over the years has been an improvement but regardless of all the clever little changes it's still this:
And unfortunately it does look really rather dumpy from a lot of angles. I've always thought it was basically a 150k car trapped in a £50k shell. I very much suspect that if it had a sleeker look far fewer people would pop up in these threads lamenting the Esprit because it's pretty clear just how much better the Evora is in every way but one. I think it's even a couple of inches lower than the Esprit but there's something about the design that makes it look so much taller.
LambShank said:
Irrespective of its age or whether it's either Sandra or Tracy, it's still a road going car, which was my only point put to the poster who doesn't think Lotus makes a road car.
(Hell, even the Exige is a bloody road car...)
I know about the Evora and I've seen a couple of them on the road now and then. They look better in the flesh than in photos but ultimately, I don't consider them to be a great looking car. There's a sort of blend of Japanese cues with Kit car front end blandness that makes the whole a bit characterless. Lotus I would argue need to get into the 150K road car category if the brand is to have any real chance of being a desirable top end brand again and into the future. They have the history, they have the heritage. I just don't go for this hardcore track day weekend warrior toy image they've cultivated. i'd love to see the Lotus name back on something really desirable and I don't see the Evora in that category. (Hell, even the Exige is a bloody road car...)
RobM77 said:
I'm a fan of the Evora, but I'm not really fussed how they look to be honest, I'm more interested in how they drive. What I will say is that they do indeed look better in the flesh than in photos.
I can't imagine spending 70K on a car and not being bothered what it looks like. The whole enjoyment from a car for me comes from the totality of how it drives, how it works, how it looks, how it lasts, everything, the whole package. As it's often being said, it's easy to build a fast track car. It starts to get complicated when it needs to do other stuff as well. For 70K the Evora needs to be delivering in many areas, build quality, modernity, reliability, refinement and...looks included. Imho! Each to their own.TerryThomas said:
An absolutely glowing road test in EVO this month. They love it.
Autocar seem keen too, in their favorite cars of the year feature.http://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/new-cars/lotus-ex...
Sine Metu said:
RobM77 said:
I'm a fan of the Evora, but I'm not really fussed how they look to be honest, I'm more interested in how they drive. What I will say is that they do indeed look better in the flesh than in photos.
I can't imagine spending 70K on a car and not being bothered what it looks like. The whole enjoyment from a car for me comes from the totality of how it drives, how it works, how it looks, how it lasts, everything, the whole package. As it's often being said, it's easy to build a fast track car. It starts to get complicated when it needs to do other stuff as well. For 70K the Evora needs to be delivering in many areas, build quality, modernity, reliability, refinement and...looks included. Imho! Each to their own.
I agree with you for the market as a whole, yes. For me personally though it just needs to drive well and looks and image are very much secondary. Perhaps a problem that Lotus will always have is that they understand the benefits of a car being small and light (which is why they make the best driving sports cars you can buy for sensible money), but perhaps most buyers in the £70k sports car market want a car to look big and imposing? The current Cayman certainly looks like more car for your money, as does the F Type Coupé. I'm not sure of the exact dimensions, but we have a Cayman and sometimes an Evora at work and the Cayman looks huge compared to the Lotus.
Yip...
Lotus are working on a quieter exhaust o think.... in fact you may already be able to buy it
A little silly of them I think when they sell you something like this that cannot be driven at circuits due to noise levels.
These cars have switchable exhaust valves however and there is talk of them passing the limits with the exhaust on quiet, although the valve opens at higher revs. So you may get pulled off.
The v6 and the sport 350 I think are OK, however the evora 400 and the Exige 380 won't be.
Lotus are working on a quieter exhaust o think.... in fact you may already be able to buy it
A little silly of them I think when they sell you something like this that cannot be driven at circuits due to noise levels.
These cars have switchable exhaust valves however and there is talk of them passing the limits with the exhaust on quiet, although the valve opens at higher revs. So you may get pulled off.
The v6 and the sport 350 I think are OK, however the evora 400 and the Exige 380 won't be.
shibby! said:
Yip...
Lotus are working on a quieter exhaust o think.... in fact you may already be able to buy it
A little silly of them I think when they sell you something like this that cannot be driven at circuits due to noise levels.
These cars have switchable exhaust valves however and there is talk of them passing the limits with the exhaust on quiet, although the valve opens at higher revs. So you may get pulled off.
The v6 and the sport 350 I think are OK, however the evora 400 and the Exige 380 won't be.
Nah, the exhaust valves open at about 4,500 RPM but the static test is around 5,000 or so so you can't beat that test. The drive-by you are totally screwed as the dB limit is usually lower but the Evora and Exige 380 are shouting at over 110 dB on drive-by. I know it sounds good but it's so retarded that they don't have a track-ready exhaust mode to at least quiet it down by 10dB or so. Lotus are working on a quieter exhaust o think.... in fact you may already be able to buy it
A little silly of them I think when they sell you something like this that cannot be driven at circuits due to noise levels.
These cars have switchable exhaust valves however and there is talk of them passing the limits with the exhaust on quiet, although the valve opens at higher revs. So you may get pulled off.
The v6 and the sport 350 I think are OK, however the evora 400 and the Exige 380 won't be.
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