LED lights blinding - its not just me is it?

LED lights blinding - its not just me is it?

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cml

Original Poster:

715 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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What ho,

You can spot new cars easily, they have bright white DRLs, and headlights. And I find them blinding. Looking directly at them leaves darks spots that take a little time to go. Our eyes do get less elastic as we get older I know. However I am learning to hate the LEDs on cars at night, or during the day for that matter. I sit low in my car and often find myself lit up like a Christmas tree in traffic, two bright burning red in front, and two dazzling white ones from behind in all my mirrors. At night I have to be careful not to catch an oncoming headlight.

It's not just me is it? I am not sure of the rules on these, but if there are some, they need tweaking a little. LEDs do not produce a gentle light, it scatters poorly, has a lot of high energy blue and a poorly distributed wavelength profile, its not a 'natural' light we've lived with since evolving and I find it too fierce for cars.

I demand something be done smile.


devnull

3,754 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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It's not just you. New shape X5 passed me on a lane yesterday and the lights feel like they can zap your eyes to dust. I'm sure it's great for the driver, but oncoming to these new generation of lights isn't much fun.

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I hate the damn things. I love to make purposeful progress as much as anyone, but really, if someone needs lights so bright to be able to see properly at the speed they're travelling at then maybe they need to be going a bit slower. Making the road safer for one driver by using lights so bright that they dazzle everyone else is not a solution.

I've ranted about these things on here many times and been slated every time ... "the lights must be badly adjusted", "my eyes must be dodgy", etc. No. It's every fecking car with them, so either they're all badly adjusted - every single damn one of them - or it's the lights that are just too bright. It's not my eyes - I had a thorough eye exam a few weeks ago and my eyesight was as close to perfect as can be. I mentioned to the optician about these lights and he said a lot of people complain about them. Your eyes adjust to compensate for the brightness and everything else vanishes into a black void, which is exactly my experience. There could be something, or someone, on the road in front of me and I'd have no idea it was there. Or I could slow down to a crawl and risk being hit up the back by the person behind who's also been dazzled to the point of being temporarily blinded. It's just as bad when the car behind has them too - you get dazzled via your own mirrors.

I hate the damn things and they'd be banned if I were in charge and everyone told to slow the fk down a bit if they can't see well enough with lights that don't blind everyone else.

/rant

HughG

3,549 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I agree too. I have also recently changed cars and not having auto-dimming wingmirroes now has made this worse; I hadn't realised how good the auto dimming on the Lexus was!

Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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How many watts are they the equivalent of I wonder.

PositronicRay

27,045 posts

184 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Yer LED lightists will be here soon, telling you it's your fault for not understanding the technology.

Apparently LED lights are intelligent and don't dazzle.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 23 November 18:05

Muddle238

3,906 posts

114 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I blame the SUV cult. Higher cars, headlights mounted further up, more likely to shine down into regular cars. Combine that with LED or Xenon, along with the SUV sitting on your rear quarter on a motorway and it gets very irritating, very quickly.

I don't have too much of a grind about headlights though, what annoys me are the lazy and inconsiderate fkers who sit with their foot on the brake in traffic. It's unneccesary to have brake lights illuminated when the vehicle behind has stopped, I see it as a sign of poor awareness.

rossub

4,465 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Muddle238 said:
I blame the SUV cult. Higher cars, headlights mounted further up, more likely to shine down into regular cars. Combine that with LED or Xenon, along with the SUV sitting on your rear quarter on a motorway and it gets very irritating, very quickly.

I don't have too much of a grind about headlights though, what annoys me are the lazy and inconsiderate fkers who sit with their foot on the brake in traffic. It's unneccesary to have brake lights illuminated when the vehicle behind has stopped, I see it as a sign of poor awareness.
This times 1,000,000. I now stop several car lengths behind inconsiderate pricks in German cars that sit with their foot on the brake in traffic jams. Boils my piss!

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Muddle238 said:
I see it as a sign of poor awareness.
Or an autobox.

Uncle John

4,300 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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lostkiwi said:
Muddle238 said:
I see it as a sign of poor awareness.
Or an autobox.
Ha ha! Was going to say the same.

mark944gold

125 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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lostkiwi said:
Muddle238 said:
I see it as a sign of poor awareness.
Or an autobox.
Or they have a car with an automatic handbrake that puts the brake lights on when the auto handbrake is engaged.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I think some must have very sensitive eyes. I've never had any problems with other car lights. And no I don't have LED lights.

CoolHands

18,684 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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rossub said:
Muddle238 said:
I blame the SUV cult. Higher cars, headlights mounted further up, more likely to shine down into regular cars. Combine that with LED or Xenon, along with the SUV sitting on your rear quarter on a motorway and it gets very irritating, very quickly.

I don't have too much of a grind about headlights though, what annoys me are the lazy and inconsiderate fkers who sit with their foot on the brake in traffic. It's unneccesary to have brake lights illuminated when the vehicle behind has stopped, I see it as a sign of poor awareness.
This times 1,000,000. I now stop several car lengths behind inconsiderate pricks in German cars that sit with their foot on the brake in traffic jams. Boils my piss!
It's been covered before. It's cars that have auto-hold that leave the brake lights on. Not the actual driver holding his foot on the brake, blame the manufacturer!

Howard-

4,952 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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lostkiwi said:
Or an autobox.
Auto or manual, it's not hard to flick it into neutral if you're going to be sitting there for more than a few seconds.

sonnenschein3000

710 posts

91 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Its only going to get worse with laser headlamps like on the new BMW 7 series

We all know you should never point a laser into someones eye, but car headlamps? That's fine clearly lol

alock

4,228 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Muddle238 said:
I blame the SUV cult. Higher cars, headlights mounted further up, more likely to shine down into regular cars.
My objection is when they are overtaking on a multi-lane carriageway. If they are only going slightly faster than me they can spend several seconds with their left-hand headlight shining directly into my door mirror due to height differences. It is literally only a few metres from the headlight to my eyes.

It's not a problem with vans and lorries because they are less likely to be overtaking cars. Vehicles with headlights above a threshold should be classified as trucks and should abide by the lower speed limits.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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great on smooth roads, but add a bump and they blind you. i guess they are tested on a flat surface as in the real word they just dazzle you.

PositronicRay

27,045 posts

184 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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InfamousKeiran

712 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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It'd be interesting to see what the average age of the people that moan are.

David87

6,662 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Howard- said:
Auto or manual, it's not hard to flick it into neutral if you're going to be sitting there for more than a few seconds.
I believe many modern automatic cars have the handbrake wired to the brake lights.