RE: Audi TT RS vs. 718 Cayman S vs. F-Type S Coupe

[Audi Boy]

All 3 Cars are at least 15k Overpriced!

.......I'm sure that ALL would be worth having, once their in the Used Market though!

I dont know why there are so many Anti-Audi people on here, when there such nice places to be in & are highly Desirable Cars!

I love Porsches, but I'm really not a Fan of the Cayman or Boxster, even more so, now they have 4 Cylinder Engines too!

[TooMany2cvs]

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

[leglessAlex]

TooMany2cvs said:

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

But he didn't say it was a new engine, just that it wasn't available in any VW car? Which is correct.

The TT isn't my cup of tea personally but they do sound great. Maybe one to look out for second hand in the future, worth buying for the engine alone.

[TooMany2cvs]

leglessAlex said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

But he didn't say it was a new engine, just that it wasn't available in any VW car? Which is correct.

Apart from the US, where it's one of the most common engines in VWs.

[Bibbs]

TooMany2cvs said:

So, if we're going with stereotype images, are you orange and covered in bling?

Wrong country.

Wife beater and mullet.

[leglessAlex]

TooMany2cvs said:

leglessAlex said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

But he didn't say it was a new engine, just that it wasn't available in any VW car? Which is correct.

Apart from the US, where it's one of the most common engines in VWs.

Really? The exact engine? That's mad, US spec VW's must be pretty rapid

[ORD]

jamieduff1981 said:

But last time I asked you hadn't driven one, because, if memory serves "you had no interest in ever driving a heavy car" or some such statement. I'd say that makes you singularly unqualified to comment on how boaty and poorly driving it is, unless you have been for an extended test drive in one since?

So which model/spec did you drive? Where did you drive it and how did you drive it?

Or are you just letting your imagination loose on the internet again?

You're just too much of an Internet hard man for me. I take back everything I said.

I've read plenty of reviews and know that a 1700kg slushbox auto with EPAS is not for me. When a reviewer makes the kind of comments in this article, I know that the car drives badly. The guy could not find a good thing to say about it but gave it the win. Bizarre.

[dinkel]

TooMany2cvs said:

£70k. For a frigging Golf in a frock.
<shakes head, sadly>

Well... the new one is a firm step up. But hardly a match for the other 2. And if it is > that would very dissapoint me!

[Dave Hedgehog]

TooMany2cvs said:

leglessAlex said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

But he didn't say it was a new engine, just that it wasn't available in any VW car? Which is correct.

Apart from the US, where it's one of the most common engines in VWs.

the RS 5 pot is a different engine to the stock 5 pot audi use, the block was made out of different material, the TTRS (and upcoming RS3) have a new iteration with a lightweight alloy block

[TooMany2cvs]

Dave Hedgehog said:

TooMany2cvs said:

leglessAlex said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Nors said:

different engine (not available in any VW product).

Yeh, it's totally unrelated to the decade-old, same-capacity-same-bore-same-stroke 20v five pot in US-spec Golfs and Passats. Of course it is.

But he didn't say it was a new engine, just that it wasn't available in any VW car? Which is correct.

Apart from the US, where it's one of the most common engines in VWs.

the RS 5 pot is a different engine to the stock 5 pot audi use, the block was made out of different material, the TTRS (and upcoming RS3) have a new iteration with a lightweight alloy block

Ooh, so they cast it in a slightly different alloy. Must be a completely different design, then.

[B10]

Dave Hedgehog said:

B10 said:

The UK press for decades has been anti UK epitomised by Clarkson etc.. It is about time we were a bit more pro-UK manufacturing. I work in UK manufacturing and have had to endure lies and nonsense about UK manufacturing for decades despite it being 8th largest in the world.
All 3 cars are good and are for different types of customers. For me it would be down to the F type or Porker.

clarkson anti uk manufacturing? this video is probably the best thing old TG did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmcmqTAu6b8

I stand corrected on that. However, pianos on Marinas, Reliant Robins etc. is what many also remember too which fuel old boring often inaccurate myths. This can mean that some conflate the past with the present day.

[OwenK]

TooMany2cvs said:

Ooh, so they cast it in a slightly different alloy. Must be a completely different design, then.

You are aware that you can't just use a different material for the exact same part design?

[Dave Hedgehog]

B10 said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

B10 said:

The UK press for decades has been anti UK epitomised by Clarkson etc.. It is about time we were a bit more pro-UK manufacturing. I work in UK manufacturing and have had to endure lies and nonsense about UK manufacturing for decades despite it being 8th largest in the world.
All 3 cars are good and are for different types of customers. For me it would be down to the F type or Porker.

clarkson anti uk manufacturing? this video is probably the best thing old TG did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmcmqTAu6b8

I stand corrected on that. However, pianos on Marinas, Reliant Robins etc. is what many also remember too which fuel old boring often inaccurate myths. This can mean that some conflate the past with the present day.

I have driven a marina, they all need to die

[Wayne58]

MrHooky said:

£4,500 for some fancy seats in a TT.

I paid £4,800 for a 2000 D2 S8. Which arguably had better seats too. And two more cylinders...

£68k for a TT is bonkers. I know it's not worth opening the used/new debate but that would buy you a newish R8 which is a much more desirable Audi...

I agree totally, in fact, my own V10 is on PH for 6k less than the TT, 68K is madness.

[Wayne58]

PhantomPH said:

I said this thread reads like that. That's not an assumption. Had I said, "People on here have no change of any of the cars new" then THAT would be an assumption. But well done on mis-reading my post.

Yeah yeah, ok, but everybody knew what you meant !!!

[PhantomPH]

Wayne58 said:

PhantomPH said:

I said this thread reads like that. That's not an assumption. Had I said, "People on here have no change of any of the cars new" then THAT would be an assumption. But well done on mis-reading my post.

Yeah yeah, ok, but everybody knew what you meant !!!

Sounds like you're assuming something to me.

[W124]

I can't quite get my head around this test. I think, reading between the lines and listening between them in the videoblog, that Dan Trent is actually trying to say the Porsche is better. Because it kind of blatantly is. I've not driven a Cayman but I have driven a 718 with the same engine. Nor have I driven a TT-RS but I've spent a lot of time in the S version with the Golf R powertrain. I've driven quite a few F-Types and, merely in my opinion, they are pretty dreadful. Sound and fury signifying nothing. I'd honestly say I'd rather have the TT than the Jaguar. But the Porsche is surely the driver's car there and the only choice really? I'd actually have the base 718 with no options over any of those cars or, better still and as others have said, a Lotus.

[av185]

[quote=FourPotPorsche

Even the base 718 Cayman with PDK is quicker to 60 than the mighty GT4 at 3.9 secs.


[/quote]

The reason why the GT4 was not available with PDK option is not simply because it would tend to spoil the back to basics' ethos and fun factor but also because it would then be quicker than the 911 Carrera and Carrera S.

[havoc]

Is it me or has this thread attracted some brand-new and 'provocative' posters?!?

[Wayne58]

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0-60 means little or nothing and is certainly not how I judge a car, it's more about the complete drive and feel that appeal to most, and at near 70k, you're still stuck in a TT.