Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

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funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
Are any of the petrol engines prone to the old head gasket issues?
Yes they were, but whilst when new they were being repaired with the same crap parts they were built with, the new multi-layer gaskets and sump rail mean that as long as it's fixed properly (including vacuum-filling the coolant) then once fixed they stay fixed.

Most have been done now. The parts are cheap and a techie who knows what he's doing won't take long. For a while back in the day every dealership had one or two techies who basically did nothing else but HG replacements. Those same cars would be back 6 months later, as the same parts had the same inherent faults. Not any more.

K-Series HGF is now one of those teeth-sucking car-enthusiast-status-proving pub-facts that has grown legs much longer than it deserved. I suspect it wouldn't have been quite so famous if Rover had been German.

There was an enormous problem with it. Now there isn't.
Thanks.

There have been a few pop up near me. I never considered them as I didn't know the full picture about the head gasket issues.

A decent 75 would be ideal for me though, especially in estate form (tall with a 2 3/4 year old). I like the styling and I think they are a very understated car.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
Thanks.

There have been a few pop up near me. I never considered them as I didn't know the full picture about the head gasket issues.

A decent 75 would be ideal for me though, especially in estate form (tall with a 2 3/4 year old). I like the styling and I think they are a very understated car.
The only ones with a head gasket reputation are the 1.8 and 1.8 turbo. The rest of the petrols are V6s. Just in case that reassures you!

And the head gasket thing isn't much of a concern if it's repaired properly with an MLS gasket (probably still available from Land Rover or Lotus, amongst dozens of vendors)

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
I thought the parts were pretty well available. It's a while since my Rover V6 (MG ZS180) days though
The vast majority are available, but there's an issue with that specific one at present.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
Thanks.

There have been a few pop up near me. I never considered them as I didn't know the full picture about the head gasket issues.

A decent 75 would be ideal for me though, especially in estate form (tall with a 2 3/4 year old). I like the styling and I think they are a very understated car.
A tidy high-spec (Connoisseur on early cars, Connoisseur SE on late cars) diesel estate is the pick of the bunch.

They sell easily and hold their money well, and the gearbox doesn't really matter - there's demand for both.


Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
The vast majority are available, but there's an issue with that specific one at present.
Are we talking about the VIS bits?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
SpeckledJim said:
The vast majority are available, but there's an issue with that specific one at present.
Are we talking about the VIS bits?
Sort of. The VIS bits are available, but the whole manifold isn't.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Ok, got you. I didn't know that

MG511

1,754 posts

242 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Some very cheap cars at Brightwells modern classics auction yesterday http://www.brightwells.com/classic-motoring/leomin...

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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MG511 said:
Some very cheap cars at Brightwells modern classics auction yesterday http://www.brightwells.com/classic-motoring/leomin...
Wow. Some lovely stuff there.

What happens to 'not sold' stuff, and why doesn't it sell?

I see the old Fords still fetch a price. A fiesta went for over £8k!

I love the XK's and the 7 series that didn't sell.

MG511

1,754 posts

242 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
Wow. Some lovely stuff there.

What happens to 'not sold' stuff, and why doesn't it sell?

I see the old Fords still fetch a price. A fiesta went for over £8k!

I love the XK's and the 7 series that didn't sell.
The not sold stuff hasn't met it's reserve, some are sold post auction via negotiation, others will be disposed of elsewhere. The £8,400 Fiesta XR2 looks crazy money, especially against the £300 Saxo VTS. W140 CL500 looks very nice for £2,100; green XJR looks very good too.

Krikkit

26,535 posts

182 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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MG511 said:
The not sold stuff hasn't met it's reserve, some are sold post auction via negotiation, others will be disposed of elsewhere. The £8,400 Fiesta XR2 looks crazy money, especially against the £300 Saxo VTS. W140 CL500 looks very nice for £2,100; green XJR looks very good too.
Totally agree on Ford pricing, but the VTS was rather rotten at its last MOT, and they covered it with the spare wheel! Hence £300.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

147 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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What about the late XJ40 for £500...!?

Stegel

1,955 posts

175 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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The £500 190e 2.6 (manual as well!) must have been far worse in the metal than the photos suggest. I daresay we may see it again.

ETA just noticed it's a non-runner with no MOT. Perhaps not surprising then.

Edited by Stegel on Friday 21st April 15:04

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
I know this is only half the minimum thread amount, but what are these old V6 A6's like?

It's done over 200k and is a N reg.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/audi/audi-a6-avant-mot-1...
Krikkit said:
Well built, not very exciting, solid.

For £500 if it drives alright get it bought!
Seem ok. But what the hell do you do with it if anything goes wrong?

I've been scouring the internet for some sort of workshop manual. The only thing I can find is a dodgy looking CD on ebay that says it covers all engines for this model. No idea if it can be trusted though.

ian316

4,150 posts

106 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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£500 a6 with a yrs mot and new cambelt and water pump buy run it throw it away if it fails

W00DY

15,492 posts

227 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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MG511 said:
Some very cheap cars at Brightwells modern classics auction yesterday http://www.brightwells.com/classic-motoring/leomin...
I'm in love with that T25 Syncro.

Matt-il77s

330 posts

91 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Ad says he has 8-10 of these he needs to sell between £200 - £8,000





£575

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/ren...

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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You found that quickly - it went live 9 minutes ago.

Why would you have 8-10 of them and not know exactly how many?

Matt-il77s

330 posts

91 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
You found that quickly - it went live 9 minutes ago.

Why would you have 8-10 of them and not know exactly how many?
I have a habit of browsing all the Gumtree categories at once within 15 miles, newly listed first, helps me find the bargains before anyone else

W00DY

15,492 posts

227 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Matt-il77s said:
Ad says he has 8-10 of these he needs to sell between £200 - £8,000





£575

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/ren...
When you have to many Vel Sati to count and you think one is worth £8k, you can be sure that you've crossed the line of committed bargeist and moved into raving lunatic territory.
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