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SpeckledJim said:
sleepera6 said:
TheLordJohn said:
Because it's disgusting.
It looks horrific inside.I much prefer modern houses on the inside. The exterior is special in a good way.
That house was cutting-edge, but at some point it was decided that it wasn't the direction we wanted, and so we went backwards instead. Except to small rooms and low ceilings, and cheesy mock Tudor / Georgian type affectations. Taylor Wimpy and the rest just build low-impact, low-energy, low-objection vanilla tribute acts to a performance none of us were alive to see.
But that house was the real thing. Something actually new. A Citroen DS in wood and concrete. I'd give my eye-teeth to live there.
TLDR: Jetsons.
My friend's new build 4 bed exec house (costing a fortune) is far more boxy than than the 30s 3 bed I grew up in. Loads of pokey little rooms - I guess to get the "4 bed, 2 reception" nonsense.
What house would match a 70s v12 Jag XJ Coupe?
I had a chap from work in my ancient green W124 earlier - £40k+ spent on 2 cars over the last year for him and his wife. He commented on how smooth the w124 is - just because the modern thing is a 4 cylinder diesel and he now has two of them! Modern doesn't mean it meets our desires better.
Edited by 0a on Wednesday 5th July 00:13
The Jag house was on the property pawn thread 3 estate agents ago.
Cheap, early C320 "Avant-garge" estate claiming 77K on it?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/mercedes-benz/mercedes-c...
Cheap, early C320 "Avant-garge" estate claiming 77K on it?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/mercedes-benz/mercedes-c...
0a said:
SpeckledJim said:
sleepera6 said:
TheLordJohn said:
Because it's disgusting.
It looks horrific inside.I much prefer modern houses on the inside. The exterior is special in a good way.
That house was cutting-edge, but at some point it was decided that it wasn't the direction we wanted, and so we went backwards instead. Except to small rooms and low ceilings, and cheesy mock Tudor / Georgian type affectations. Taylor Wimpy and the rest just build low-impact, low-energy, low-objection vanilla tribute acts to a performance none of us were alive to see.
But that house was the real thing. Something actually new. A Citroen DS in wood and concrete. I'd give my eye-teeth to live there.
TLDR: Jetsons.
My friend's new build 4 bed exec house (costing a fortune) is far more boxy than than the 30s 3 bed I grew up in. Loads of pokey little rooms - I guess to get the "4 bed, 2 reception" nonsense.
What house would match a 70s v12 Jag XJ Coupe?
I had a chap from work in my ancient green W124 earlier - £40k+ spent on 2 cars over the last year for him and his wife. He commented on how smooth the w124 is - just because the modern thing is a 4 cylinder diesel and he now has two of them! Modern doesn't mean it meets our desires better.
Edited by 0a on Wednesday 5th July 00:13
New houses are in the main bloody awful, both in design and in construction integrity. Plasterboard, laminate flooring, and polystyrene coving. Ruthlessly cost-engineered, but cynical enough to try to persuade us otherwise.
I'd love to have the balls and opportunity to throw a lot of money at an architect and say 'do what you think is best, call me in 9 months when you're ready to break ground' but I'd worry that in 50 years of 'progress' he wouldn't come up with something as good as that exciting, beautiful, practical house.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Wednesday 5th July 00:34
ChocolateFrog said:
A great looking combo (car and house, the woman less so)
Probably a little unfair to compare a house with a budget that wasn't a major constraint to anything a modern mass market housebuilder would build.
That's a fair point.Probably a little unfair to compare a house with a budget that wasn't a major constraint to anything a modern mass market housebuilder would build.
It would be nice to see a modern 'executive' estate that draws more from Frank Lloyd Wright than it does from Buckingham Palace though.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Wednesday 5th July 08:01
ChocolateFrog said:
A great looking combo (car and house, the woman less so)
Probably a little unfair to compare a house with a budget that wasn't a major constraint to anything a modern mass market housebuilder would build.
I'll take the house and the totty, and if they take the Jag off the Land Rover chassis they have inexplicably perched the body on, I'll take the car too. Probably a little unfair to compare a house with a budget that wasn't a major constraint to anything a modern mass market housebuilder would build.
(I really like the house but can't help but think the random rubble stone walling rather jars, rather than contrasts, with the sleekness of everything else and if that were dressed stone or render it would be far better).
ETA - if Mrs Stegel reads this, I'm only joking - of course I won't buy another old car.
r129sl said:
Marvellous.
Usually the girls in the Jaguar ads are less dour; although always quite serious and elegant. Irritatingly I can't find any on the internet.
The original XJ6 brochure is a wonderful thingUsually the girls in the Jaguar ads are less dour; although always quite serious and elegant. Irritatingly I can't find any on the internet.
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/xj6_9-68.html
dme123 said:
r129sl said:
Marvellous.
Usually the girls in the Jaguar ads are less dour; although always quite serious and elegant. Irritatingly I can't find any on the internet.
The original XJ6 brochure is a wonderful thingUsually the girls in the Jaguar ads are less dour; although always quite serious and elegant. Irritatingly I can't find any on the internet.
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/xj6_9-68.html
Not sure what is going on here:
SpeckledJim said:
That's a fair point.
It would be nice to see a modern 'executive' estate that draws more from Frank Lloyd Wright than it does from Buckingham Palace though.
It's a tricky job designing an individual house of large proportions that doesn't end up looking like either a car showroom or a new wing of the Trafford Centre. Every architect I've ever met thinks they have that superstar quality, when in reality very, very few can pull it off. The Lloyd-Wright pile is a thing of beauty and will look just as fresh in another 50 years. It would be nice to see a modern 'executive' estate that draws more from Frank Lloyd Wright than it does from Buckingham Palace though.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Wednesday 5th July 08:01
SpeckledJim said:
New houses are in the main bloody awful, both in design and in construction integrity. Plasterboard, laminate flooring, and polystyrene coving. Ruthlessly cost-engineered, but cynical enough to try to persuade us otherwise.
You could probably say the same about new cars. I don't often ride in new stuff and have generally viewed the "perceived quality" tag that gets bandied around on PH as mostly a bit of guff, but a borrowed new Toerag this week and a ride in a new A class confirms the myth is reality. It's applied like a lipstick.I don't understand why they don't build streets anymore. Terraces or semi-detacheds. Even detached houses. But on streets. With shops or pubs on corners.
Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a t
t, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.
Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a t
t, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.r129sl said:
I don't understand why they don't build streets anymore. Terraces or semi-detacheds. Even detached houses. But on streets. With shops or pubs on corners.
Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a tt, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.
My pet hate as well.Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a t
t, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
bungz said:
r129sl said:
I don't understand why they don't build streets anymore. Terraces or semi-detacheds. Even detached houses. But on streets. With shops or pubs on corners.
Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a tt, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.
My pet hate as well.Why do they have to be estates, a collection of cul-de-sacs, one way in and out?
You can't say that this is what most people want because it isn't: when people win the lottery, they don't go and buy a bigger, flashier version on a posher estate. They buy a proper old house. Why do the planners (I hate planners) like these lifeless schemes? I'm not being a t
t, I genuinely would like a cogent explanation, if there is one.Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
I bought one as my first house, because the chap selling was desperate and for some reason people really want them so easy to sell on, awful construction, layout and parking though.
bungz said:
My pet hate as well.
Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
I tried to find a friends house on one of these estates about 10 years ago. No road markings to know which was the major road and which one was yet another dead end. Turning around every time you got lost was an ordeal (in a 5 metre long barge) because there were parked cars scattered everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
It was truly a surreal experience, the estate was absolutely vast and I just got more and more lost until eventually I pulled over and sat at the site of the road to get over my frustration. It was like a nightmare experience in a labyrinth, and to this day it is one of the most surreal experiences of my life. Also, in the entire 30 - 40 minutes I spent in the hellish place of thousands of homes I did not see one person. Not one. Still not convinced it wasn't a waking dream of some sort.
dme123 said:
bungz said:
My pet hate as well.
Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
I tried to find a friends house on one of these estates about 10 years ago. No road markings to know which was the major road and which one was yet another dead end. Turning around every time you got lost was an ordeal (in a 5 metre long barge) because there were parked cars scattered everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.Massive new house on a tiny plot with no off road parking on a narrow little cul-de-sac with cars dotted around making access terrible.
Stuff that.
It was truly a surreal experience, the estate was absolutely vast and I just got more and more lost until eventually I pulled over and sat at the site of the road to get over my frustration. It was like a nightmare experience in a labyrinth, and to this day it is one of the most surreal experiences of my life. Also, in the entire 30 - 40 minutes I spent in the hellish place of thousands of homes I did not see one person. Not one. Still not convinced it wasn't a waking dream of some sort.
An update on my lovely 2001 BMW 540i touring. It's MOT'd for another year.
Two Conti’s from my local indie for the rear were fitted prior to the test. £208 for 2 Premium Contact 6's seemed fair.
I'd changed the front callipers, as one was sticking slightly and the replacement cured the E39 shimmy under braking between 50 and 60 mph I'd been experiencing. Hurrah!
I knew it needed rear handbrake shoes after I'd also changed the discs and pads all round and had run out of time to do them myself, and it also had one very pale number plate bulb!
My MOT man tested it prior to doing the work - just in case I had missed anything, so it's history shows a fail prior to the pass, but I can live with that.
1 advisory of a chip in the windscreen.
So 6,502 miles covered last year we're now on 211k, and 10k in my ownership...
In my ownership it’s had:
A Bosch battery
Genuine discs, pads and wear sensors
Reconditioned Pagid/ ATE front calipers
Rear handbrake shoes and fitting kit
Conti tyres – front 10k ago, rears just done.
Castrol edge oil change and Mahle oil, air and cabin filters.
Things to do are:
Cure the galleon-esque creak from the front suspension. (No play evident at Mot test.)
Replace the rear air bags as the nearside sags sometimes, when left, but works fine when running.
Fit the ignition switch I bought to cure the occasional electrical oddity.
Fix the intermittent radio and lack of functioning sat nav.
Fix the pixelated lower display
But here’s the spanner in the works. I’ve just found one of my ‘wish’ list cars a very un-barge like 1966 2cv van! (My motoring tastes are many and varied!), and whilst my wonderful wife is very accommodating of my motoring predilections, I’ve instigated a one-in one-out rule to stop things getting out of hand. s oif I do decide to sell:
What should a chap advertise a 211k 2001 E39 540i touring for?
It’s a non-sport model but with sport suspension and comfort seats (a fabulous combination in my book) with double glazing. It wears it’s miles well, and passes the country house hotel test, but it does have the above listed ‘nuances’.
I’d happily get in it and drive it anywhere – it did 400+ miles last Sunday collecting my daughter and all her detritus from Uni, and was a lovely place to spend time. Advice of what it’s worth welcome (tricky I know with limited pics) and then she’ll go up for sale…. I think….
Two Conti’s from my local indie for the rear were fitted prior to the test. £208 for 2 Premium Contact 6's seemed fair.
I'd changed the front callipers, as one was sticking slightly and the replacement cured the E39 shimmy under braking between 50 and 60 mph I'd been experiencing. Hurrah!
I knew it needed rear handbrake shoes after I'd also changed the discs and pads all round and had run out of time to do them myself, and it also had one very pale number plate bulb!
My MOT man tested it prior to doing the work - just in case I had missed anything, so it's history shows a fail prior to the pass, but I can live with that.
1 advisory of a chip in the windscreen.
So 6,502 miles covered last year we're now on 211k, and 10k in my ownership...
In my ownership it’s had:
A Bosch battery
Genuine discs, pads and wear sensors
Reconditioned Pagid/ ATE front calipers
Rear handbrake shoes and fitting kit
Conti tyres – front 10k ago, rears just done.
Castrol edge oil change and Mahle oil, air and cabin filters.
Things to do are:
Cure the galleon-esque creak from the front suspension. (No play evident at Mot test.)
Replace the rear air bags as the nearside sags sometimes, when left, but works fine when running.
Fit the ignition switch I bought to cure the occasional electrical oddity.
Fix the intermittent radio and lack of functioning sat nav.
Fix the pixelated lower display
But here’s the spanner in the works. I’ve just found one of my ‘wish’ list cars a very un-barge like 1966 2cv van! (My motoring tastes are many and varied!), and whilst my wonderful wife is very accommodating of my motoring predilections, I’ve instigated a one-in one-out rule to stop things getting out of hand. s oif I do decide to sell:
What should a chap advertise a 211k 2001 E39 540i touring for?
It’s a non-sport model but with sport suspension and comfort seats (a fabulous combination in my book) with double glazing. It wears it’s miles well, and passes the country house hotel test, but it does have the above listed ‘nuances’.
I’d happily get in it and drive it anywhere – it did 400+ miles last Sunday collecting my daughter and all her detritus from Uni, and was a lovely place to spend time. Advice of what it’s worth welcome (tricky I know with limited pics) and then she’ll go up for sale…. I think….
Pothole said:
dscam said:
Love that. Remarkably unmodernised which is great to see - the tiling and built in furniture are high points for me. It's one thing keeping a car original but takes quite some restraint with a family home.
Fabulous isn't it?Bargista said:
What should a chap advertise a 211k 2001 E39 540i touring for?
I would think £3k will get you a buyer, and £2.5k would get you a buyer more rapidly. However, I also suspect that if you paid your mechanic to attend to all the little niggles you've mentioned (and assuming it's had the usual issues such as cooling addressed) then you could try your luck at £4-4.5k and see if a buyer emerges.Edited by SimonConnell on Wednesday 5th July 14:41
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