Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,276 posts

180 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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phil_cardiff said:
Curse my fertile loins ...
smile They're worth it!

The time when you can re-live those days will come my friend.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I'm glad it's not just me. My SL has hardly turned a wheel this year.

cornershop

2,136 posts

196 months

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Mid 20's on a run in a modern V8 should be absolutely guaranteed.
I'd get 22 out of my HE V12 XJ.
Even my E38 735i would get 32/33 on a good motorway run.

That Vitesse looks a tempting proposition.
I'm sure the pictures flatter to deceive, but how much longer can they be a grand for!?

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

144 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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MEGA BARGAIN ALERT

MEGA BARGAIN ALERT

Lexus LS400 £595

There's not much in the way of a description, but these things are tough as old boots.

I know the minimum price for this thread is £1k, but what with a few pages recently of budget busters, I'd bring us back to the bottom price.

I reckon with a haggle you'd get it for 10% of the top thread price!



I'd smoke about in that all day.

DISCLAIMER

I haven't read the MOT history, so it could be a nail with 500k miles on it. Still, if that is the case, for ~£500 what were you expecting... laughbiggrin

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Last wobble was 2013, clean since then on the history. Looks alright assuming it isn't a complete ruin, not my fave colour scheme. Will be on about 190k miles if the mileage is consistent, MOT due end of the month.

Link?

olly755

3,070 posts

162 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Link?

Just about to tee up a viewing of an LS400 at the opposite end of the price and mileage spectrum to that one (and mine). I should know better: It's a nice idea but a pointless fantasy. It won't drive any different to that one and everything will still work on both.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
That Vitesse looks a tempting proposition.
I'm sure the pictures flatter to deceive, but how much longer can they be a grand for!?
A lot longer. Nice cars, but the number of people who really want to buy one is, well, it's barely a number at all.

I think the only events that cause these change hands now is the failure of either MOT or ECG.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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cornershop said:
Five grand! laughlaughlaugh

CharlesdeGaulle

26,276 posts

180 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
A lot longer. Nice cars, but the number of people who really want to buy one is, well, it's barely a number at all.
I agree. Too Partridge-esque, and too uncool (even for sad losers such as we) to be in any way desirable outside the miniscule number that already have one and will buy another, and those who nod sagely that they were under-rated decent cars but wouldn't actually spend any of their own money on one (such as we).

Thankyou4calling

10,606 posts

173 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Have any of the forum experience of the CLS?

I traded my LS430 for one three months ago (2010 car) and I'm just not bonding with it.

The main reason is the ride, coming from the air suspension of the 430 pretty much anything is going to feel rough but the CLS takes it to a new level.

I'm delaying the inevitable visit to a specialist to likely be told there are wooden blocks under the struts hence the crashy ride but perhaps it's normal.

Any offers?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
TheLordJohn said:
That Vitesse looks a tempting proposition.
I'm sure the pictures flatter to deceive, but how much longer can they be a grand for!?
A lot longer. Nice cars, but the number of people who really want to buy one is, well, it's barely a number at all.

I think the only events that cause these change hands now is the failure of either MOT or ECG.
I'm going to get my old Rover beard out of a box and put it on now. That's the least desirable 800 Vitesse. The original 80s car was a 2.7 Honda V6 and a decent suspension setup, it was a decent handler for the day and the engine was lovely. Particularly nice as a manual. The first facelift model Vitesse had a two litre turbo with 180bhp and a terrible suspension setup that was as crap as the regular 800. In about 1994/5 ish they launched the 200bhp "Vitesse Sport" that had a Torsen diff and a suspension setup that absolutely transformed a really below par car to a very competitive one. After the final 1996 facelift (body coloured rubbing strips) all Vitesse models were sport spec. The Vitesse Coupe had the Sport setup from the start.

They are all pretty rubbish though. The 2 litre engine is very rough, the power output and turbo mid range no longer has any novelty value, and they are very fragile. I'd be tempted back into a Vitesse Coupe maybe. There is little to no real affection for these cars so I don't think they'll ever be worth much.
If you wanted one as a retro shed I'd get an 827 with the Honda engine, as much for the more robust ancillaries (steering hydraulics particularly) as the stronger engine.

Edited by dme123 on Friday 4th August 11:25

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Thankyou4calling said:
Have any of the forum experience of the CLS?

I traded my LS430 for one three months ago (2010 car) and I'm just not bonding with it.

The main reason is the ride, coming from the air suspension of the 430 pretty much anything is going to feel rough but the CLS takes it to a new level.

I'm delaying the inevitable visit to a specialist to likely be told there are wooden blocks under the struts hence the crashy ride but perhaps it's normal.

Any offers?
I find my dad's much too firm. His is on normal 18" wheels, and 'comfort' setting is still miles too thumpy.

tobinen

9,229 posts

145 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Ref the X350 3.5 V8 - not driven one but compared to the N/A 4.2 there isn't much difference in MPG so one may as well have that. More is better after all

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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tobinen said:
Ref the X350 3.5 V8 - not driven one but compared to the N/A 4.2 there isn't much difference in MPG so one may as well have that. More is better after all
Agreed. The 2.7D seems totally pointless to me. Not massively more economical than the 3.0 petrol, no faster and considerably less reliable. Likewise the 3.5 is pointless as you get less MPG than the 3.0 without the performance of the 4.2 N/A or S/C.

3.0 Petrol, 4.2 V8 or 4.2 S/C is the way to go IMO.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Geekman said:
3.0 Petrol, 4.2 V8 or 4.2 S/C is the way to go IMO.
I second that. I had a 3.0 and it was a lovely car. Enough engine, and a nice thing to drive.

phil_cardiff

7,091 posts

208 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
phil_cardiff said:
Curse my fertile loins ...
smile They're worth it!

The time when you can re-live those days will come my friend.
True, and I do love them to bits, even though I'm undergoing motoring purgatory at the moment.

But man maths reigns supreme. By my reckoning, the £100 a day I'm spending on childcare will run something epic when they are both in school! How much are Bentley Turbo Rs again?!

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

151 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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phil_cardiff said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
phil_cardiff said:
Curse my fertile loins ...
smile They're worth it!

The time when you can re-live those days will come my friend.
True, and I do love them to bits, even though I'm undergoing motoring purgatory at the moment.

But man maths reigns supreme. By my reckoning, the £100 a day I'm spending on childcare will run something epic when they are both in school! How much are Bentley Turbo Rs again?!
That's what I thought. Until my Mrs decided that they needed to go to school in stripy blazers and straw boaters. 12 years of motoring penury (amongst other penuries) so far, 10 to go.

Ah well, smoker barges it is until I can afford a non-smoker barge.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,276 posts

180 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SilverSixer said:
Ah well, smoker barges it is until I can afford a non-smoker barge.
Smoker barges are a lifestyle choice. Even when you don't have to, you still will. Betcha.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SilverSixer said:
That's what I thought. Until my Mrs decided that they needed to go to school in stripy blazers and straw boaters. 12 years of motoring penury (amongst other penuries) so far, 10 to go.

Ah well, smoker barges it is until I can afford a non-smoker barge.
You both should have compromised and sent them to a sink estate state comp in stripy blazers and straw boaters.

That was the sort of thing that gave Ace Rimmer his leg-up. They'd thank you for it eventually.

You may need to find a good cheap stock of boaters. I imagine the attrition rate on those might prove as expensive as Stowe anyway.
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