Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]
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Zonergem said:
r129sl said:
the house across the street is nearly finished
What a job they've made of removing the decorative features which tied it in the street scene and replacing it with bland and charmless modernity. Powder-coated aluminium window frames = 20" low-profile run-flat tyres on an Audi.What cars will the new occupants park out front? His 'n' hers Range Rovers?
Zonergem said:
Shirley it's the last of the old-school million-mile Mercs built by engineers not accountants, using the engine that would go into the Pagani Zonda, which cost more than an entire mining village in 1992 and now a youngtimer modern classic which can only go up in value?! 
They don't make them like this any more (nor do they make the wiring looms, M120 radiator fans or throttle bodies)...
There is an old, oft perpetuated myth that, once upon a time, Mercedes Benz used to make really good strong reliable cars. Some of them were - the W114/5 and after that, the W123. They weren't bad efforts at all. A bit rust prone but good cars. After that came horrors like the W126 - rust, timing chain, head gaskets, rust etc as well as being bloody awful to drive, the W140 was even worse whilst the darling of the Guardianista, the W124 is often confused with granite (hewn from). No, it wasn't. It was a collection of electrical maladies and rust and not even in the same country as the Volvo 740 never mind ballpark. Comparing a 1990 W124 with a 1990 Camry is another exercise in futility. Look beyond the image and therein lies a very, very average car that looked and felt stronger than it actually was.They don't make them like this any more (nor do they make the wiring looms, M120 radiator fans or throttle bodies)...
Edited by Zonergem on Thursday 14th September 07:30
There doesn't seem to be much in the way of architectural uniformity there, anyway. There are 5 (part-) houses in those shots and none of them have anything in common.
Just what era is MdP trying to emulate - (faux)w&d of the Tudor period right through to the bay windows of the 1930's??!! WT and, indeed, F?!
Personally, I prefer the new one.
Just what era is MdP trying to emulate - (faux)w&d of the Tudor period right through to the bay windows of the 1930's??!! WT and, indeed, F?!
Personally, I prefer the new one.
Don't get me wrong; they weren't a bad car but they had neither the quality of a Swedish built Volvo (240/740 etc) and they didn't drive anywhere near as nicely as an E34 5 Series. The only one I'd want is a 12v 300CE - at least they're nice looking with no BMW alternative. The saloons and Estates? No ta.
The W211 is a much better car, nice to drive, no rust issues (no granite was involved in manufacture) and they're so cheap.
The W211 is a much better car, nice to drive, no rust issues (no granite was involved in manufacture) and they're so cheap.
iSore said:
The W211 is a much better car, nice to drive, no rust issues (no granite was involved in manufacture) and they're so cheap.
In defense of the 124 the 211 should feel light-years ahead, it has 15 years and thousands of hours of CFD etc in its development.For its age I think the 124 stands up well.
iSore said:
Don't get me wrong; they weren't a bad car but they had neither the quality of a Swedish built Volvo (240/740 etc) and they didn't drive anywhere near as nicely as an E34 5 Series. The only one I'd want is a 12v 300CE - at least they're nice looking with no BMW alternative. The saloons and Estates? No ta.
The W211 is a much better car, nice to drive, no rust issues (no granite was involved in manufacture) and they're so cheap.
And the 1st generation LS400 is a demonstrably better car in every way, than any of the aforementioned German or Swedish barges. The W211 is a much better car, nice to drive, no rust issues (no granite was involved in manufacture) and they're so cheap.
LandyManSam said:
And the 1st generation LS400 is a demonstrably better car in every way, than any of the aforementioned German or Swedish barges.
Indeed it is. The W126 was a joke in comparison to the LS400 and the 735i was caught with its pants down. Old Volvo stuff was pretty average to drive (they were based on what was really a 1965 140 floorpan) and the interior plastics were far from prestige. But they were so well built and the red block engine just runs and runs and runs. The closest thing to a 240 was the W123 with the old silver top engine - I once bought a 1979 200D from an auction. It had been stood for 3 years - I drove it straight out, jet washed the green slime off it and the next day, drove it to Ipswich where a Merc breaker gave me a handsome profit and the train fare back to Oxford.I recall interviewing a taxi operator in Hamburg who said that the W124 was nothing like as good.
Doesn't matter. The W126 was made far beyond its sell by date and it was bettered not only by the E32 7 Series in '86 but in many ways by the XJ6 that was a relic even in 1979. That DB could not make a car ride and handle better than a 1968 design says something - ultimately it was Toyota that did it first.
I'm curiously tempted by this:.
2003 Passat estate
Non sporty looking exterior design
Elserly owner-esque colour
V6 4 motion.
Not quick but enough for a chap to make progress when required.
Is is stupidly overpriced for a 77k 1 owner car with an alledged full vw history...
Seems a reasonable amount of car to me for £3k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
2003 Passat estate
Non sporty looking exterior design
Elserly owner-esque colour
V6 4 motion.
Not quick but enough for a chap to make progress when required.
Is is stupidly overpriced for a 77k 1 owner car with an alledged full vw history...
Seems a reasonable amount of car to me for £3k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This looks pleasant - quite rare in that colour and an honest ad.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-300SE-1990-very...
Prices seem to be quite varied. In terms of what seems to actually sell, I think the money is about 2.7K for something like this. That doesn't stop some of them being priced above 5k. We'll see in a few days.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-300SE-1990-very...
Prices seem to be quite varied. In terms of what seems to actually sell, I think the money is about 2.7K for something like this. That doesn't stop some of them being priced above 5k. We'll see in a few days.
Bargista said:
I'm curiously tempted by this:.
2003 Passat estate
Non sporty looking exterior design
Elserly owner-esque colour
V6 4 motion.
Not quick but enough for a chap to make progress when required.
Is is stupidly overpriced for a 77k 1 owner car with an alledged full vw history...
Seems a reasonable amount of car to me for £3k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
£3500 for a 15 year old Passat Estate? Pass!2003 Passat estate
Non sporty looking exterior design
Elserly owner-esque colour
V6 4 motion.
Not quick but enough for a chap to make progress when required.
Is is stupidly overpriced for a 77k 1 owner car with an alledged full vw history...
Seems a reasonable amount of car to me for £3k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
It's £1500 worth, £2000 at a push..
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