RE: Lotus Exige Sport 380: Review
Discussion
Fantastic car, I would love a V6. Maybe one day I will part with my 111s for one.
I'm not sure how bespoke you could have the build, but I would spec the old light cluster at the rear, four lights looks better than the two. I would also spec silver wheels, black are not my cup of tea and these forged wheels are too nice to hide.
I hope Lotus keep up the good work and have a brighter future, they should be applauded for making car like this these days.
I'm not sure how bespoke you could have the build, but I would spec the old light cluster at the rear, four lights looks better than the two. I would also spec silver wheels, black are not my cup of tea and these forged wheels are too nice to hide.
I hope Lotus keep up the good work and have a brighter future, they should be applauded for making car like this these days.
Lotus may not fit a charge cooler, but Komotec do with their 460 upgrade...so you could buy a solid residual value £45k second hand car and have it upgraded, with suspension tweaks etc for a lot less outlay. I might go down this route with my nearly 3 year old daily driver V6 with nearly 40k miles on the clock (when it is out of warranty)...has been totally reliable bar irritations, so far. Any issue fixed under warranty without a problem.
Personally I am pleased Lotus are continuously improving their cars....they need to do so because it is a tough hungry world out there.
Just think what they could do if they were owned by a competent car manufacturer who would be prepared to invest correctly?
Oh yes, I got excited about an Ulitma Evolution about 18 months ago, but was quoted over £100k for a 700hp version and a 12 months wait...I bought a second hand 12c instead (which is brilliant)...still quite like the Ultima option, but whilst depreciation is not my main concern, I think you`d take quite a big initial hit with one of these.
Personally I am pleased Lotus are continuously improving their cars....they need to do so because it is a tough hungry world out there.
Just think what they could do if they were owned by a competent car manufacturer who would be prepared to invest correctly?
Oh yes, I got excited about an Ulitma Evolution about 18 months ago, but was quoted over £100k for a 700hp version and a 12 months wait...I bought a second hand 12c instead (which is brilliant)...still quite like the Ultima option, but whilst depreciation is not my main concern, I think you`d take quite a big initial hit with one of these.
Eric Gales' tenure as boss has been outstanding so far. Each new model works like a special edition, provides an opportunity to shed more weight and gives a few more folk the impetus to part company with their folding. It is a really exciting prospect that all of these models will be available second hand for years to come. The Caterham comparison is apposite. The underpinnings may be older but they are tried, tested, true and developed. Caterham have learned that there is room for a whole plethora of models that answer different questions for different people. I don't mind admitting that I preferred the Roadsport Seven with a 120hp K-series than a 150hp Sigma, just seemed the sweet spot for me. For others that will be an R300 or 420R or an old K-series R500. Quite what you do with a 620R I have no idea, I would either die of a heart attack or a nasty accident but there are people out there who can handle it.There is no end to the different permutations possible from a good chassis and engine. Lotuses should be special and these are just in the way that Esprit 350s and V8s are special in distinct ways. I hope they bring long awaited viability to the Lotus profit and loss spreadsheet.
I absolutely love what Lotus are producing these days.
The Evora seems to be going down well in the USA and I appreciate the almost obsessive levels of detail taken to reduce weight. It just seems very efficient and well-engineered and I like that in this sort of car, it's a special kind of genius that's unmatched on the marketplace and I hope they shift a lot of these cars.
When I visited the factory earlier this year (the snipers must have missed as I rolled up in my Porsche), they said the new models were a couple of years off yet. I can only hope they can keep growing until then.
The Evora seems to be going down well in the USA and I appreciate the almost obsessive levels of detail taken to reduce weight. It just seems very efficient and well-engineered and I like that in this sort of car, it's a special kind of genius that's unmatched on the marketplace and I hope they shift a lot of these cars.
When I visited the factory earlier this year (the snipers must have missed as I rolled up in my Porsche), they said the new models were a couple of years off yet. I can only hope they can keep growing until then.
otolith said:
What's that based on? I can't find a 2015 Exige for 40k, and they started out cheaper.
Retail selling price £45k for a 800 miler - how much behind is a trade bid £10k = £35k http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
DaveGB said:
A true mini McLaren then
Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Percentage wise a lot less than this example :Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Edited by DaveGB on Tuesday 29th November 18:10
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
£45k for a 1 year old 800 mile car - Trade bid £10k less = £35k
At least a McLaren is a SUPERcar and not pretending
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 29th November 21:32
RamboLambo said:
Percentage wise a lot less than this example :
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
£45k for a 1 year old 800 mile car - Trade bid 310k less = £35k
At least a McLaren is a SUPERcar and not pretending
Do you really sell your cars after a year of ownership? I dread to think how much you spend on motoring, regardless of what you buy. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
£45k for a 1 year old 800 mile car - Trade bid 310k less = £35k
At least a McLaren is a SUPERcar and not pretending
I don't think the Exige is pretending to be anything it isn't; it's about as sportscarish as a car can be.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 29th November 20:46
RamboLambo said:
DaveGB said:
A true mini McLaren then
Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Percentage wise a lot less than this example :Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Edited by DaveGB on Tuesday 29th November 18:10
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
£45k for a 1 year old 800 mile car - Trade bid £10k less = £35k
At least a McLaren is a SUPERcar and not pretending
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 29th November 21:32
That looks totally brilliant. 
Excellent things happening at Lotus at the minute.
I can't understand how the press can expend so many column inches on the Cayman GT4, when this is about the same price new, same power, but over a quarter of a ton lighter and isn't a cynical limited-edition marketing exercise.
I bet they'll sell more than fifty in the UK, which would make it more successful than the Porsche, no?
Yes, it looks pricey compared to an Elise from nearly twenty years ago. But jeez, given the relative volumes of the base products and the specialness, compared to the Porsche it looks bargainous (especially at the now ridiculous speculator prices of GT4s). I know which one I'd rather have.
Excellent things happening at Lotus at the minute.
I can't understand how the press can expend so many column inches on the Cayman GT4, when this is about the same price new, same power, but over a quarter of a ton lighter and isn't a cynical limited-edition marketing exercise.
I bet they'll sell more than fifty in the UK, which would make it more successful than the Porsche, no?
Yes, it looks pricey compared to an Elise from nearly twenty years ago. But jeez, given the relative volumes of the base products and the specialness, compared to the Porsche it looks bargainous (especially at the now ridiculous speculator prices of GT4s). I know which one I'd rather have.
SidewaysSi said:
RamboLambo said:
DaveGB said:
A true mini McLaren then
Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Percentage wise a lot less than this example :Some people do spout some crap. Oldest Exige V6S are low £40's still , at 3 years old vs original price of mid £50's.
Exige Cups are mid 50's
Do you want to share how much money your 650 has lost vs list price new ?
Edited by DaveGB on Tuesday 29th November 18:10
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
£45k for a 1 year old 800 mile car - Trade bid £10k less = £35k
At least a McLaren is a SUPERcar and not pretending
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 29th November 21:32
Porsche911R said:
Cold said:
Struggling to understand why an industry standard of practice with regards to releasing successive models is such an unexpected big deal to some. Are manufacturers expected to sit still and never move on with their model line up? (Inset 911 quip here)
What an odd basis for an argument. Almost as odd as reeling off stats about an obscure kit car as though it's a credible alternative in this segment.
Is PH solely read by those on the autistic spectrum?
Porsche bring out a new model every 4 to 6 years with a face lift in between. So your 911 comment does not stand true. What an odd basis for an argument. Almost as odd as reeling off stats about an obscure kit car as though it's a credible alternative in this segment.
Is PH solely read by those on the autistic spectrum?
No suprises to buyers. within that 6 years you expect a base model car, an S a GTS and GT and the Turbo.
You don't buy a GT car and then 6 weeks later the base model is faster ! unlike Lotus.
atm we have dealers still with Elise cup 220 stock !!! Exige 360 stock etc etc
but they have Elise Cup 250 stock and now the Sport 380 ! along with the 25 ltd ed's every year !
Not only do Lotus not care about buyers they also screw dealers having to buy stock in in.
We want to see progress but in a nice informed way to help resale and make buyers feel wanted.
only way round it is buy 3 year old 2nd hand cars, but we need new buyers who feel secure in the way they are not being conned with buying old stock in the 1st place ,so there are 2nd hand cars to buy.
I remember on seloc the nice (which I see is for sale atm) liquid yellow car fully speced and a few £££ but before he got the car the new one was lauched and you take ownership of an outdated model !
picking up a old model you thought was brand new stinks and does take the edge of your hard earned.
the Cup 360 vs the Sport 380 again a joke example of how big a mess it all is who wants a CUP 360 now ? seems a pointless outdated model, and that had not even made the Lotus cars web site yet !!!
I have a 360 Cup and it's great, 99 percent of the people who I meet love it too-Bizarrely, I bought it to drive it rather than sell it.
So Lotus razz up the basic ingredients every so often, what's the problem with that? Should I dump my S1 Elise at the gates of Hethel in disgust that the same basic chassis has had a V6 bolted on it?
I just don't get why you should feel so much tension when you haven't even bought one ( and please don't buy one, because I imagine that you will find them noisy and uncomfortable and it will frustrate you when the dealer doesn't offer you a flat white when you drop it off for a service)
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