RE: Lotus Exige Sport 380: Review
Discussion
Yipper said:
So wish Lotus would stop doing those fugly, bare-bones interiors. Would buy one in a flash if they gave their cars a modern interior for normal people.
Absolutely. I would buy one if it had 2 nicely bolstered leather seats, proper thick carpets, high quality plastics and a decent sound system. Maybe something like i-drive.If they also put in EPAS, sat nav and twin zone climate then even better.
Would be down to my local dealer in a flash I would.
Yipper said:
So wish Lotus would stop doing those fugly, bare-bones interiors. Would buy one in a flash if they gave their cars a modern interior for normal people.
Go on then its easy, buy an Evora 99 percent of the Exige drive but with leather, carpets and other stuff that makes it more livable. Porsche911R said:
otolith said:
"Lotus have always done it" and yet their residuals remain strong. Upside of not being mass produced.
the residuals are dire, you can loose £20k in 6 months, look at Evora 400 prices at £59k already !residuals are great for the 2nd hand buyer on 3 year old cars at £25k/30k and they stay not far from that figure, new prices are scary though.
buy an Exige S now for £40k and yes residuals are great, but you have to sell these cars new 1st !
SidewaysSi said:
Yipper said:
So wish Lotus would stop doing those fugly, bare-bones interiors. Would buy one in a flash if they gave their cars a modern interior for normal people.
Absolutely. I would buy one if it had 2 nicely bolstered leather seats, proper thick carpets, high quality plastics and a decent sound system. Maybe something like i-drive.If they also put in EPAS, sat nav and twin zone climate then even better.
Would be down to my local dealer in a flash I would.
ash73 said:
Ugly thing imo, and the 3-Eleven is only £15K more; if you're going all out might as well just get one of them.
I suppose if I could jizz money, I would be able to write things like 'only £15k'. Until then though, it will remain a fairly substantial bunch of money to me (and probably even a fair few people who could afford a Sport 380).RamboLambo said:
otolith said:
What's that based on? I can't find a 2015 Exige for 40k, and they started out cheaper.
Retail selling price £45k for a 800 miler - how much behind is a trade bid £10k = £35k Anyway, back to the thread. Nice car, but I would spend about £62k less and get an Y-reg XKR with the same power output and two more cylinders!!
Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Wednesday 30th November 07:45
Dont know what some of the folks are on but Lotus residuals are one of the best in the market.
S3 Exiges arent breaking £40k and should be well under that by now. Like wise S1 Evora Sport Racers are still £46k and should be £35k by now. Evora 400s were typically bought new at around £68k (after discount) but most are £62k+ 8 months on.
The early S1 Elises are selling for around £12k - £15k but the early Porsche Boxsters can be bought for £3k.
The Exige 380 is no doubt a great car but its looks and interior turn me off. It is the ugliest Lotus car you can buy today and it has the same interior that was used 20 years ago in Elises.
S3 Exiges arent breaking £40k and should be well under that by now. Like wise S1 Evora Sport Racers are still £46k and should be £35k by now. Evora 400s were typically bought new at around £68k (after discount) but most are £62k+ 8 months on.
The early S1 Elises are selling for around £12k - £15k but the early Porsche Boxsters can be bought for £3k.
The Exige 380 is no doubt a great car but its looks and interior turn me off. It is the ugliest Lotus car you can buy today and it has the same interior that was used 20 years ago in Elises.
Edited by Audemars on Wednesday 30th November 08:42
big_rob_sydney said:
"You won't find a faster car for below £100,000,"
Good as this car is, I think someone has been drinking the cool aid...
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/15706/ultima-evolution-u...
Ultima Evolution unveiled with 1020bhp
SAM SHEEHAN9 APR 2015
Performance figures of record-breaking sports car released
Ultima Sports has revealed its most powerful sports car to date: the Evolution. Producing as much as 1020bhp from a supercharged 6.8-litre V8, the lightweight Evolution is capable of racing from 0-60mph in just 2.3sec.
As staggering as that number is, it’s the car’s record breaking rolling performance that impresses most. 0-100mph takes just 4.9sec, while 150mph arrives only four seconds later. Ultima claims the Evolution will keep on accelerating hard beyond 240mph before it bounces off the limiter in sixth gear.
Power comes from a Chevrolet-sourced V8 LS with a supercharger, and is sent through a Porsche six-speed transaxle. A billet quick-shifter cable system enables fast gear changes – enough to record a rapid 9.2sec standing quarter-mile time.
Weighing 950kg, the new Ultima produces 1091bhp/ton; that’s 98bhp more than the Koenigsegg One:1 does. A major contributor to this slender weight is the Ultima’s hollow space-frame chassis and glassfibre-reinforced plastic body.
Ultima claims the space-frame provides ‘market leading rigidity,’ while the clear-gel-coated GRP body is moulded to generate high-speed downforce.
The car is sprung on TIG welded double wishbones and fully adjustable coil spring dampers. Forged lightweight one-piece alloy wheels 18 inches in diameter are wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 2 rubber. Stopping power comes from AP Racing 12.7-inch curved vane vented discs with stainless steel hoses all round and adjustable brake bias.
Inside, leather and Alcantara stretches over sports seats and a dial-strewn dash. A leather-wrapped roll-cage confirms the car’s high-speed intentions, but the addition of air conditioning, an Alpine in-car entertainment system and optional satnav are welcome luxuries.
In short, the Evolution is a proper racer for the road and packs enough grunt to shame even the fastest of hypercars. Below the 1020bhp model will sit 14 other variants, all utilising power from the same V8 in different states of tune. The Evolution even comes available in both coupe and convertible form.
The entry level Evolution produces 350bhp and sells from £65,995, though Ultima will also sell it in kit form for £38,000. Buyers after a fully built 1020bhp model will need £95,995. That’s Porsche 911 GT3 money for McLaren P1-beating performance.
This again? Can you and the Ultima just get a room?Good as this car is, I think someone has been drinking the cool aid...
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/15706/ultima-evolution-u...
Ultima Evolution unveiled with 1020bhp
SAM SHEEHAN9 APR 2015
Performance figures of record-breaking sports car released
Ultima Sports has revealed its most powerful sports car to date: the Evolution. Producing as much as 1020bhp from a supercharged 6.8-litre V8, the lightweight Evolution is capable of racing from 0-60mph in just 2.3sec.
As staggering as that number is, it’s the car’s record breaking rolling performance that impresses most. 0-100mph takes just 4.9sec, while 150mph arrives only four seconds later. Ultima claims the Evolution will keep on accelerating hard beyond 240mph before it bounces off the limiter in sixth gear.
Power comes from a Chevrolet-sourced V8 LS with a supercharger, and is sent through a Porsche six-speed transaxle. A billet quick-shifter cable system enables fast gear changes – enough to record a rapid 9.2sec standing quarter-mile time.
Weighing 950kg, the new Ultima produces 1091bhp/ton; that’s 98bhp more than the Koenigsegg One:1 does. A major contributor to this slender weight is the Ultima’s hollow space-frame chassis and glassfibre-reinforced plastic body.
Ultima claims the space-frame provides ‘market leading rigidity,’ while the clear-gel-coated GRP body is moulded to generate high-speed downforce.
The car is sprung on TIG welded double wishbones and fully adjustable coil spring dampers. Forged lightweight one-piece alloy wheels 18 inches in diameter are wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 2 rubber. Stopping power comes from AP Racing 12.7-inch curved vane vented discs with stainless steel hoses all round and adjustable brake bias.
Inside, leather and Alcantara stretches over sports seats and a dial-strewn dash. A leather-wrapped roll-cage confirms the car’s high-speed intentions, but the addition of air conditioning, an Alpine in-car entertainment system and optional satnav are welcome luxuries.
In short, the Evolution is a proper racer for the road and packs enough grunt to shame even the fastest of hypercars. Below the 1020bhp model will sit 14 other variants, all utilising power from the same V8 in different states of tune. The Evolution even comes available in both coupe and convertible form.
The entry level Evolution produces 350bhp and sells from £65,995, though Ultima will also sell it in kit form for £38,000. Buyers after a fully built 1020bhp model will need £95,995. That’s Porsche 911 GT3 money for McLaren P1-beating performance.
Edited by big_rob_sydney on Tuesday 29th November 10:31
Edited by big_rob_sydney on Tuesday 29th November 10:32
XJ40 said:
Black S2K said:
hondansx said:
Have to say this looks mightily impressive. At that price, i am asking myself what's the catch!
Oh look - a wholly positive comment on a new Lotus thread. Ban this man!I wholly concur with you and I hope they cannot make 'em fast enough.
I know there's a very wide range of tastes here but I'd still have thought this would be the ultimate PH motor in many ways - purposeful, focused light weight sports car from an established brand, with even more powerful engine and very impressive performance figures. What's not to like? Obviously it's not cheap but looking at it's rivals it does seem to offer something unique in the market.
Nicodema said:
Ha ha!
It's all down to personality of course. On Thursday I'll be picking up my Sport 350, having specced it myself as I wanted it, including bespoke paintwork. Nobody mentioned the 380, the first I heard was the teaser on Facebook.
Am I upset that my Sport 350 has been trumped or diminished? Not even a little bit. Might seem odd, but I'm totally fine with it.
You see they haven't replace the 350 with the 380, for the same money. They've added it in above, so to get the stuff I wanted on it I would have needed to find another £10K.
Now, will I be switching out to Cup 2s, or swapping in a Lithium battery at some point. Maybe so, but in real life, this thing (my 350) is going to be quicker than our Caterham, and that goes like stink!
Come to think of it, the Seven 360 or 420 never bother me in regards to our R300, because each one is a peach, and the residuals are neither poor or particularly of concern, more a bonus to Caterham or Lotus ownership.
Now, back to waiting for Thursday...
Do keep us posted on how you get on! 350 also remains epic IMHO...It's all down to personality of course. On Thursday I'll be picking up my Sport 350, having specced it myself as I wanted it, including bespoke paintwork. Nobody mentioned the 380, the first I heard was the teaser on Facebook.
Am I upset that my Sport 350 has been trumped or diminished? Not even a little bit. Might seem odd, but I'm totally fine with it.
You see they haven't replace the 350 with the 380, for the same money. They've added it in above, so to get the stuff I wanted on it I would have needed to find another £10K.
Now, will I be switching out to Cup 2s, or swapping in a Lithium battery at some point. Maybe so, but in real life, this thing (my 350) is going to be quicker than our Caterham, and that goes like stink!
Come to think of it, the Seven 360 or 420 never bother me in regards to our R300, because each one is a peach, and the residuals are neither poor or particularly of concern, more a bonus to Caterham or Lotus ownership.
Now, back to waiting for Thursday...
My word, there really are some miserable military grade bellends that feel compelled to bemoan Lotus' new faster, lighter and quicker sports car on this forum for supposedly car fanatics and enthusiasts.
An improved version of one of the best drivers cars on the market is released, you can actually buy it for reasonable money (considering performance, handbuilt, rarity, heritage) and people have mistakenly wondered from mumsnet to post stupid comments, regarding residuals and too many new versions released, bla bla bla...... Just drive it then comment on it FFS !!
Stunning car, and a brilliant range Lotus currently has on offer. This or an Evora 410!!!!
An improved version of one of the best drivers cars on the market is released, you can actually buy it for reasonable money (considering performance, handbuilt, rarity, heritage) and people have mistakenly wondered from mumsnet to post stupid comments, regarding residuals and too many new versions released, bla bla bla...... Just drive it then comment on it FFS !!
Stunning car, and a brilliant range Lotus currently has on offer. This or an Evora 410!!!!
LambShank said:
So not only are you in dreamland over prices of GT4's, but also Exiges.
You won't even get a year old non Cup Exige for £25k less than new.
My near 3 year old roadster wasn't even £25k less than new when I traded it in.
Indeed, Lotus residuals are pretty goodYou won't even get a year old non Cup Exige for £25k less than new.
My near 3 year old roadster wasn't even £25k less than new when I traded it in.
My Evora has 74k miles on it, is 6 years old and has lost only £30k from new price if I p-ex it today. A 911 of the same age and mileage has lost circa £44k if I go by PH classifieds asking prices and will be lower for a p-ex
FocusRS3 said:
Porsche911R said:
otolith said:
"Lotus have always done it" and yet their residuals remain strong. Upside of not being mass produced.
the residuals are dire, you can loose £20k in 6 months, look at Evora 400 prices at £59k already !residuals are great for the 2nd hand buyer on 3 year old cars at £25k/30k and they stay not far from that figure, new prices are scary though.
buy an Exige S now for £40k and yes residuals are great, but you have to sell these cars new 1st !
AlexHat said:
I don't know if it will apply to the 380 but for those who are bleating that the price is £67k! Lotus do a 50:50 deal where you put up 50% of the cost of the vehicle upfront and 50% after two years, or you can give the car back and it will be sold on to the next lucky owner.
These 50/50 deals are rather tempting. £15k for a new Elise, provided you can save £600 a month... DaveGB said:
So a British manufacturer produces a cracking car and fair chunk of people want to just moan 
No wonder the Aussies refer to brits as whinging poms.
Cheer up you miserable buggers and celebrate the fact we're being spoilt by Lotus at the moment with cars they are producing. I'm not sure whether to buy another Exige for track work, probably a Sports 350 or to trade the Evora 400 in for the 410 and just have one toy.
Either way , all cracking cars whichever you choose. Those who dismiss Lotus without ever driving one, are really missing out on great driver cars.
Go test drive one......go on
Good - the miseries don't deserve it - it might cheer them up or something. No wonder the Aussies refer to brits as whinging poms. Cheer up you miserable buggers and celebrate the fact we're being spoilt by Lotus at the moment with cars they are producing. I'm not sure whether to buy another Exige for track work, probably a Sports 350 or to trade the Evora 400 in for the 410 and just have one toy.
Either way , all cracking cars whichever you choose. Those who dismiss Lotus without ever driving one, are really missing out on great driver cars.
Go test drive one......go on
richardaucock said:
These 50/50 deals are rather tempting. £15k for a new Elise, provided you can save £600 a month...
Trust me, you'll want the S - but on the 50:50 that's only another 4k up front (before discounts!). Every time I drive one I question whether I really need the V6, it's so fundamentally right basically. Tremendous fun round Snetterton and remarkably fuel efficient as a daily driver... And most of the people in the know reckon that the Cup 250 is the sweet spot of the entire range. Anyone who's really interested in one of those should speak to Jamie at B&C...
Edit: if I didn't have the V6 already, Sport 380 would be at the top of my wishlist. But I do have the V6, so I'm setting my sights higher - going to keep it and attempt to man maths my way into an Evora as a daily!
Edited by gashead1105 on Wednesday 30th November 20:51
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