RE: Lotus Exige Sport 380: Review

[FocusRS3]

LambShank said:

So not only are you in dreamland over prices of GT4's, but also Exiges.

You won't even get a year old non Cup Exige for £25k less than new.
My near 3 year old roadster wasn't even £25k less than new when I traded it in.

So you've trolled me well done .
I've recently sold my GT4 so I'm better versed to know what they sell for so no need to turn this thread into the Porsche section of abuse , it's juvenille let's end it here .

You maybe better versed than me to call future values of a new exige, fair enough , I'm just looking at current values of a 3yr old exige new vs used and that the 380 isn't a cup car .

I'm a previous lotus owner and a huge fan of the brand. Merry xmas

[LambShank]

You said the car would lose £25k in a year.
You are wrong.

I'm not trolling you - don't flatter yourself, I read that thread as I have a reason to.

[FocusRS3]

LambShank said:

You said the car would lose £25k in a year.
You are wrong.

I'm not trolling you - don't flatter yourself, I read that thread as I have a reason to.

Jog on buddy you have been given the chance to bury the subject but you're now just embarrassing yourself .

[LambShank]

[Monkey spanker]

I'm really glad for lotus, but this is where they should have been 10-15 years ago. they where way ahead and then stagnated, the Elise / exige should have had this sort of power years ago. Now I'm happy they have finally got there :-) Well done guys you got there in the end

[SidewaysSi]

Monkey spanker said:

I'm really glad for lotus, but this is where they should have been 10-15 years ago. they where way ahead and then stagnated, the Elise / exige should have had this sort of power years ago. Now I'm happy they have finally got there :-) Well done guys you got there in the end

True. Actually I am disappointed this car doesn't have 700 bhp. I would buy one if it had.

[kambites]

Monkey spanker said:

I'm really glad for lotus, but this is where they should have been 10-15 years ago. they where way ahead and then stagnated, the Elise / exige should have had this sort of power years ago. Now I'm happy they have finally got there :-) Well done guys you got there in the end

I think 350bhp/tonne in 2001 would have been seen as a bit OTT.

[JayH888]

kambites said:

Monkey spanker said:

I'm really glad for lotus, but this is where they should have been 10-15 years ago. they where way ahead and then stagnated, the Elise / exige should have had this sort of power years ago. Now I'm happy they have finally got there :-) Well done guys you got there in the end

I think 350bhp/tonne in 2001 would have been seen as a bit OTT.

Yeah it's exactly what they should of done. But they didn't so Noble did. The M12 was about 350bhp/tonne.

[richardaucock]

gashead1105 said:

Trust me, you'll want the S - but on the 50:50 that's only another 4k up front (before discounts!). Every time I drive one I question whether I really need the V6, it's so fundamentally right basically. Tremendous fun round Snetterton and remarkably fuel efficient as a daily driver...

And most of the people in the know reckon that the Cup 250 is the sweet spot of the entire range. Anyone who's really interested in one of those should speak to Jamie at B&C...

Edit: if I didn't have the V6 already, Sport 380 would be at the top of my wishlist. But I do have the V6, so I'm setting my sights higher - going to keep it and attempt to man maths my way into an Evora as a daily!

Edited by gashead1105 on Wednesday 30th November 20:51

I love man maths... an S is thus an unmissable bargain, I could tell Mrs. A. Stopwatches ready, to see how long it would take for her to see through it.

Seriously, it's a fiendishly tempting way into a new Elise for the upfront price of a used one. Provided you could then save hard for two years...

[delays]

richardaucock said:

Seriously, it's a fiendishly tempting way into a new Elise for the upfront price of a used one. Provided you could then save hard for two years...

Or duck out after the two years with the residuals at a decent enough level (as they tend to be on these things) to settle the finance and get some of your original payment back...

What a wild two years they would be.

[kambites]

JayH888 said:

Yeah it's exactly what they should of done. But they didn't so Noble did. The M12 was about 350bhp/tonne.

The original M12 was under 300bhp/tonne (310bhp and 1050kg). It was only when they jumped to the three litre engine that they approached 300bhp/tonne in standard form.

Fabulous things if you can live with the monumental turbo lag.

[MikeGoodwin]

Porsche911R said:

Be a 410 CUP soon ;-)

That's the thing with Lotus, you think you are buying the best newest car and up pops another,
I know all manufacturers do it, but most give 2 to 3 years warning and you know what's coming.
IE a R, GTS, GT so you buy at the top and get to have a top of the range car for 3 years etc

Lotus kill resale and ps off buyers due to all these cars every few months and MASSIVE DISCOUNTS.
you can see it now with the Elise Cup 220 and Elise cup 250 both on sale at the same time atm !!!
And if you ordered a Cup 220 3 months ago you would be a bit pissed off.

So expect an Exige CUP 410 in 6 weeks !

Lotus have always done it, sell you a car in the show room while they have newer cars out back.

even people who bought last years Cup 360's ended up with a poorer car at top money than a new basic Sport 350 which is lighter and faster and cheaper !

Here is another example , buy this car from Bell and colvill, it's brand new, but already old stock and outdated and more expensive and more weight than this new Sport 380 !!! but it's a brand new CUP car which is slower !!!

who is going to buy that at £68k now the new ones £67k

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Ive noticed this

I'd love an Exige S3 I think they are wonderful looking cars, so for me it would not be about the latest but having a car I would hopefully keep a while, forgetting the resale. I cant afford £60k and even £40k 2nd hand isnt something I would like to pay for.

[gashead1105]

richardaucock said:

I love man maths... an S is thus an unmissable bargain, I could tell Mrs. A. Stopwatches ready, to see how long it would take for her to see through it.

Seriously, it's a fiendishly tempting way into a new Elise for the upfront price of a used one. Provided you could then save hard for two years...

See, what you do is tell her that the first part is covered by your trade in...

And it was. Mostly. I wont get away with that one next time though! Also I have been saving hard for the past 2 years and it will be quite nice to have the cash flow released in a few months time.

[JerryF]

I love it. Just a bit too much for me. So a standard 350 or an Elise 250 Cup. Or maybe a Caterham.

Above all I will be buying BRITISH!

Sooner we leave Europe and those cars from Germany get a 20% price hike the better.

[SidewaysSi]

JerryF said:

I love it. Just a bit too much for me. So a standard 350 or an Elise 250 Cup. Or maybe a Caterham.

Above all I will be buying BRITISH!

Sooner we leave Europe and those cars from Germany get a 20% price hike the better.

Damn right. Bloody European rubbish. Rule Brittania etc.

Only problem is what will we do with the family? Caravan on the back of the Exige perhaps?

[Si_man306]

Lotus have done this for some time- but then lots of marques do, McLaren included. It's good business sense. They're certainly not killing off the prices either, residuals in lotus's are among the most solid for modern cars.

I agree on the 410 though- it's the same drive train as the evora and they'd be mad not to have a last of the run 410 edition.

Very tempted.

[kambites]

Si_man306 said:

I agree on the 410 though- it's the same drive train as the evora and they'd be mad not to have a last of the run 410 edition.

In order to install exactly the same drive-train as the Evora 410, I think they need to find space for an extra charge-cooler which probably wouldn't be easy in the Exige.

[Marcus_12345678]

I bought one of the first V6 Exiges (2013) for a bit over £50k it's now worth over £40k, I don't think that's too bad. I buy my cars on how desirable they are to me, I don't give a damn if someone else can buy some thing else tomorrow, how has that changed what I've bought, unless its devalued it and that doesn't seem to be the case. I wish Lotus would bring out more significant updates quicker as I might want some new shiny metal (GRP) in a couple of years.

[Lyons]

big_rob_sydney said:

"You won't find a faster car for below £100,000,"

Good as this car is, I think someone has been drinking the cool aid...

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/15706/ultima-evolution-u...

Ultima Evolution unveiled with 1020bhp
SAM SHEEHAN9 APR 2015

Performance figures of record-breaking sports car released

Ultima Sports has revealed its most powerful sports car to date: the Evolution. Producing as much as 1020bhp from a supercharged 6.8-litre V8, the lightweight Evolution is capable of racing from 0-60mph in just 2.3sec.

As staggering as that number is, it’s the car’s record breaking rolling performance that impresses most. 0-100mph takes just 4.9sec, while 150mph arrives only four seconds later. Ultima claims the Evolution will keep on accelerating hard beyond 240mph before it bounces off the limiter in sixth gear.

Power comes from a Chevrolet-sourced V8 LS with a supercharger, and is sent through a Porsche six-speed transaxle. A billet quick-shifter cable system enables fast gear changes – enough to record a rapid 9.2sec standing quarter-mile time.

Weighing 950kg, the new Ultima produces 1091bhp/ton; that’s 98bhp more than the Koenigsegg One:1 does. A major contributor to this slender weight is the Ultima’s hollow space-frame chassis and glassfibre-reinforced plastic body.

Ultima claims the space-frame provides ‘market leading rigidity,’ while the clear-gel-coated GRP body is moulded to generate high-speed downforce.

The car is sprung on TIG welded double wishbones and fully adjustable coil spring dampers. Forged lightweight one-piece alloy wheels 18 inches in diameter are wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 2 rubber. Stopping power comes from AP Racing 12.7-inch curved vane vented discs with stainless steel hoses all round and adjustable brake bias.

Inside, leather and Alcantara stretches over sports seats and a dial-strewn dash. A leather-wrapped roll-cage confirms the car’s high-speed intentions, but the addition of air conditioning, an Alpine in-car entertainment system and optional satnav are welcome luxuries.

In short, the Evolution is a proper racer for the road and packs enough grunt to shame even the fastest of hypercars. Below the 1020bhp model will sit 14 other variants, all utilising power from the same V8 in different states of tune. The Evolution even comes available in both coupe and convertible form.

The entry level Evolution produces 350bhp and sells from £65,995, though Ultima will also sell it in kit form for £38,000. Buyers after a fully built 1020bhp model will need £95,995. That’s Porsche 911 GT3 money for McLaren P1-beating performance.

Edited by big_rob_sydney on Tuesday 29th November 10:31

Edited by big_rob_sydney on Tuesday 29th November 10:32

Yeah, you might want some soy sauce to go with that big noodle of a car. You've also been at the Kool Aid