Aggression on the Roads...

[RicharDC5]

I'm normally relaxed about other peoples (genuine) mistakes. Some of the deliberate crap driving in Manchester is starting to get to me though.

It's especially bad outside my estate where people often drive on the wrong side of the road to skip the queue at the traffic lights, forcing oncoming traffic onto the pavement. I have to admit I called one of them a fking the other day.

[Glasgowrob]

I cover in excess of 100k miles a year and have done for the last 7/8 years

It's gotten to the point that no amount of fkwittery and mistakes bother me. Apart from MLMs

Utterly hate these idiots with a passion perfect example this morning on the M8 I stuck to lanecoje and managed to undertake 20+ cars before I had move to lane 2 to perform an overtake

Should execute them at the roadside

[mp3manager]

sebulban said:

On about 4 occasions in the last 10 years Ive actually had to get out of my vehicle and deal with people!!!!

[lostmotel]

caelite said:

There's always the breaker bar sat convieniently behind the passenger seat of my car if I ever need to diffuse someone else road rage.

My approach is to assume that everyone else on the road could be the sort of person with a breaker bar or baseball bat, or, as I once saw, a dumbell bar sans weights located down the side of their seat. They were driving a totally unassuming '06 Fiesta Zetec, hardly a drug dealer's or knucklehead's vehicle of choice. But they were very quick to jump out with it and threaten the Audi driver who didn't give way.

It always worries me seeing people shake coffee beans, flash or blare their horn at other drivers, as there is always the chance that the other chap really is some absolute mentalist one wker sign away from going apoplectic with road rage.

[jamei303]

Rule #1 of safe and successful road raging is never get out of the vehicle.

[Wills2]

SteveSteveson said:

caelite said:

jamei303 said:

Wills2 said:

I also thank everyone that lets me out etc...if I'm bombing down the outside lane and a car sees me and moves over I flash my hazards as well when I go past (I do like to make a little progress at times)

I'm not sure giving an emergency stop signal in the outside lane when you're making good progress is the best idea

Emergency stop signal? I've never actually heard it refered to as that, technically its meant to signal you as some from of a hazard, however it's just been used as an unwritten 'sorry'/'thanks'/'Ima just squeeze in this gap anyway, regardless of your obvious attempt to block me' signal for a long long time.
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On a motorway it means (correctly) that you are approaching stopped traffic and about to stop. The assumption is if you see a car with them on that you might have to slam your brakes on. Doing it on most roads is debatable, doing it on a motorway is dangerous and likely to be misinterpreted.

Nonsense, a quick flash of the hazards because the driver being approached woke up and pulled in to the inside lane as I go past at speed is fine. You'd have to seriously misread the situation to think it's an emergency stop signal, for one thing my brakes lights aren't on oh and there isn't any traffic in front of me and I'm pulling away from you rapidly.

Odd POV.

[Europa1]

I accidentally cut someone up on the roundabout where the North Circular meets the A13. Despite me waving an apology, the stoutly built gentlemen went absolutely mental - shouting his head off, almost thumping the windscreen as he gave the finger, with his bemused wife beside him. That wasn't the end of it - on joining the A13, the lane I was in came to a stop. He stopped alongside me (despite the act that lane flowing, and leaned across his wife to lose his rag again.

I hope the fat fk has a major cardiac event next time he has such unnecessary anger issues.

[NickCQ]

sebulban said:

On about 4 occasions in the last 10 years Ive actually had to get out of my vehicle and deal with people!!!! 1/ Calm down its only driving and 2/ If you possess no fight skills at all don't pick a fight.

Yeah, DOMINATE the road else hand in your man card...

[sebulban]

NickCQ said:

Yeah, DOMINATE the road else hand in your man card...

On each occasion I consider myself the victim.

One time a guy clipped the back of my car..... screamed abuse at me.... I shrugged my shoulders and pulled over and naively got out thinking insurance swap.... and he started swinging punches at me!!!! Was INSANE!!!

[Slow]

I just take the approach of chilling, just dont care about peoples fk ups etc. If I have to slam on I just brake and carry on after. Cant be bothered with the effort of flashing/shouting/hand movement/beeping. See too many fknuts in the 25k miles a year I do to get wound up.

If I fk up I raise my hand to say sorry and give the hazards a quick flash, same if someone moves over in advance when seeing me catching up.

[Subbeh]

Slow said:

If I fk up I raise my hand to say sorry and give the hazards a quick flash, same if someone moves over in advance when seeing me catching up.

Obviously you're always going to get the occasional knob but people holding up a hand, taking responsibility is so rare nowadays. Is it just me or did that used to be far more common than the barely restrained aggression from those in the wrong?

[Slow]

Subbeh said:

Slow said:

If I fk up I raise my hand to say sorry and give the hazards a quick flash, same if someone moves over in advance when seeing me catching up.

Obviously you're always going to get the occasional knob but people holding up a hand, taking responsibility is so rare nowadays. Is it just me or did that used to be far more common than the barely restrained aggression from those in the wrong?

Being only 22 I cant say its dropped off in the 5 years I have been driving. People in Inverness are alot calmer than when I go down south however and I notice people applogise more up here. They dawdle though because theres never a rush to squeeze into the gaps from junctions etc.

[Johnnytheboy]

It seems to vary enormously by area.

Some areas seem a lot angrier than others.

Usually st holes.

[Audemars]

The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.

Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.

Edited by Audemars on Saturday 3rd December 23:57

[surveyor]

Audemars said:

The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.

Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.

Edited by Audemars on Saturday 3rd December 23:57

Anybody who claims that they never make a mistake is a liar.

[Guybrush]

IroningMan said:

nickfrog said:

I'm not being funny but I have detected more aggressive behaviour since the Brexit vote, it's like if the angry have been vindicated. I am probably imagining it though !

I wonder. It's not hard to picture the Venn diagram that describes the group of 'Leave Voters' and the group of 'I Know My Rights', somehow...

No, I've noticed a change since the weather turned colder.

[WaferThinHam]

Guybrush said:

No, I've noticed a change since the weather turned colder.

There's certainly been a lot more people crashing into each other lately.

I do about 25k a year and some of the stuff people go mental over beggar's belief. I can't be bothered with it all, we're all just racing to the next traffic jam anyway so why worry about it.

[SidewaysSi]

Audemars said:

The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.

Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.

Edited by Audemars on Saturday 3rd December 23:57

That's a bunch of balls

[jezhumphrey75]

Its the ones who don't acknowledge you or apologise for pulling out on you/cutting you up that really wind me up.

[Howard-]

It's a weird state of affairs, isn't it? If you get in someone's way or nudge into them accidentally in the supermarket, for example, a quick "oops, sorry" from both parties is exchanged, and life goes on. But as soon as cars are involved, it's like everyone is a gnat's arse away from stabbing everyone else in the face.

If someone does something daft in front of me and I give them a quick flash/beep and they hold their hands up to apologise then my mood is instantly diffused. But if I receive a torrent of abuse in return then it makes me feel like wanting to set fire to everything that person knows and loves.

I'm not perfect, if I make a mistake on the road then I'll say sorry. If some angry moron doesn't accept my apology then I don't care.

Antony Moxey said:

Had this this very afternoon. On a traffic light controlled roundabout in the lane marked as straight ahead when a guy pulls up alongside on my left. As the lights go green he pulls off and immediately dives across the front of me go to the next exit to the right. I anchor up sharply and press the horn, he looks out of his window, gives me the coffee beans and mouths 'fk off'.

Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.

I had something similar last week - I was turning right at a mini roundabout when a cyclist sailed right across my path, from the left. I gave a quick blast of my horn and he stopped and went absolutely ballistic at me. Swearing, hand gestures, the lot. I felt like just driving over him . I don't understand why people act in a such a dim-witted manner like this. How can he not realise that he's going to end up under someone's wheels if he continues riding like a ? No wonder people think all cyclists are sts. It's always the dheads in full on Tour De France garb who are the most militant, as well. I never get any grief from the 'normal bloke riding to work wearing a helmet and shorts', and usually he'll offer better standards of roadcraft.

Edited by Howard- on Sunday 4th December 09:48