RE: Honda Civic Type R Black Edition

RE: Honda Civic Type R Black Edition

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mooseracer

1,919 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Always seemed strange to me introducing the Type R so late in the current Civic's lifecycle. Will be interesting to see how they follow this one.

AWG

855 posts

157 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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'Black Edition' Wow... why haven't other manufacturers thought of that!

750turbo

6,164 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Is it a Honda thing with run out models, just wanting to shift them?

EP3 Premier & M200 as examples.

I have the current model, it totally polarises opinions in here, I like that though.

Everywhere I go (I am involved in IT in the Motor Trade) it attracts comments, whether it is in the Supermarket, or at a Dealership - Young salesmen seem specifically attracted, I even found one trying the doors as I had parked in the used car area, he thought it was a trade in!

At home I normally get comments like, "what the fk have you bought now you loonie" Always brings a smile to my face though smile (the comments and the car).

If we all had the same taste in things, the world would be a far duller place - I am looking forward to seeing the 2017 model in the flesh, 340bhp is going to be interesting in a FWD.

Edited by 750turbo on Tuesday 10th January 18:10

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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The last 100 of the s2000 were painted white, at the time dealer struggled to sell them, I know someone who bought one for £17k when rrp was about £25k, now though they are going up in value in fact if Keep low mile it would still be worth most the 17k now. Long term I think these might hold a small premium over others but not much with the new model civic type r round the corner.

daemon

35,890 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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AWG said:
'Black Edition' Wow... why haven't other manufacturers thought of that!
At least theirs is actually Black. You can get Audi Black editions in a variety of colours - including white

Loyly

18,006 posts

160 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I'm just mainly looking forward to the next generation Type R as that is a really cool looking base car. It wouldn't really make sense for Honda to release a tuned up Black Edition when the next Civic Type R will probably arrive with the same drive train or perhaps just a little more power.

lord trumpton

7,442 posts

127 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Seats look nicer in the black alcantara in this 'black editon'

Itsallicanafford

2,773 posts

160 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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So is this a Mugen version of the last CTR

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...

If so, looks like a cracking second hand buy, were these £30k odd new?

epom

11,590 posts

162 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Quick buy them now before those flipping flippers gets their hands on them.

ecsrobin

17,179 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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anonymous said:
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They did it with the FN2 "championship white" I think it had different alloys and stereo and a white paint job.

ecsrobin

17,179 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Itsallicanafford said:
So is this a Mugen version of the last CTR

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...

If so, looks like a cracking second hand buy, were these £30k odd new?
20 made at £39k a pop http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tab...

I'm sure they were being offered at a huge price drop though.

Not sure the difference between the 20 mugens over the 200 mugens produced?

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I love these cars. I wouldn't personally have one, as they're not really my style, but they have gravitas and balls-out fk you attitude in the metal. Please keep making interesting machines like this biggrin

pacdes

499 posts

162 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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This was supposed to sell in the US and didn't. Anybody know why?
A big cock up by Honda and deservedly so, for making such a visual abomination. They should stick to making award winning adverts. It may drive like its on rails, but then so does the Ariel Atom and I don't see many of them on the road either.
This 'Black' version is an insult to customers and the brand. Anyone who buys one as an investment needs their bumps feeling as they will be long dead before they realise any profit. The depreciation must be ball crushingly painful as most seem to be trade sales.
As I predicted with the FK2, the next version if anything like the prototype will bomb just as spectacularly. Honda needs to poach some good designers otherwise as a comapny trading in this current climate it will go down les toilette.


MustardCutter

238 posts

121 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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pacdes said:
This was supposed to sell in the US and didn't. Anybody know why?
I'm pretty sure that was never the plan, when Honda said the Type r was coming to the US they were referring to the next one which is definitely going stateside and probably before anywhere else.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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pacdes said:
This was supposed to sell in the US and didn't. Anybody know why?
A big cock up by Honda and deservedly so, for making such a visual abomination. They should stick to making award winning adverts. It may drive like its on rails, but then so does the Ariel Atom and I don't see many of them on the road either.
This 'Black' version is an insult to customers and the brand. Anyone who buys one as an investment needs their bumps feeling as they will be long dead before they realise any profit. The depreciation must be ball crushingly painful as most seem to be trade sales.
As I predicted with the FK2, the next version if anything like the prototype will bomb just as spectacularly. Honda needs to poach some good designers otherwise as a comapny trading in this current climate it will go down les toilette.
Cheer up. The sun is always shining somewhere biggrin

Jaaws

170 posts

102 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Tuvra said:
One of the guys at my rugby club has a white one, being 50+ years of age he looks a bit of a tit driving it too boxedin
Well I've got a white one and I'm 60+ so I must look a complete tit, not just a bit of one! Still love it though

dazzaturbo

27 posts

192 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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ecsrobin said:
Itsallicanafford said:
So is this a Mugen version of the last CTR

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...

If so, looks like a cracking second hand buy, were these £30k odd new?
20 made at £39k a pop http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tab...

I'm sure they were being offered at a huge price drop though.

Not sure the difference between the 20 mugens over the 200 mugens produced?
This is a mugen 200 (basically a body kitted championship white edition)

The m20's are a full on mugen version with nearly 240bhp

bobski1

1,780 posts

105 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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cj2013 said:
Is there a particular reason why they still aren't employing the best feature of the concept??

Love the look of this car, would have been even better with those lights though!!

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Jaaws said:
Well I've got a white one and I'm 60+ so I must look a complete tit, not just a bit of one! Still love it though
I wouldn't worry. In my experience, people who judge older drivers in interesting, fast cars are either kids or idiots. With the greatest of respect of course biggrin

Guvernator

13,172 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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pacdes said:
This was supposed to sell in the US and didn't. Anybody know why?
A big cock up by Honda and deservedly so, for making such a visual abomination. They should stick to making award winning adverts. It may drive like its on rails, but then so does the Ariel Atom and I don't see many of them on the road either.
This 'Black' version is an insult to customers and the brand. Anyone who buys one as an investment needs their bumps feeling as they will be long dead before they realise any profit. The depreciation must be ball crushingly painful as most seem to be trade sales.
As I predicted with the FK2, the next version if anything like the prototype will bomb just as spectacularly. Honda needs to poach some good designers otherwise as a comapny trading in this current climate it will go down les toilette.
Have to agree with this. They certainly have the engineering talent, I mean they've actually managed to make a modern turbocharged hot hatch that's fun to drive which is no mean feat, however their designers need shooting. I'm all for bold styling but this just looks like a dogs dinner, even the new NSX is minging IMO. Honda, get some new designers who

a) Can do proper curves, all these weird angles, sharp edges, what happened to elegant smoothness?

b) Know when to put the stylus down, can you say over-styled? 3d lights, unnecessary body addenda, slashes, strakes etc. Sometimes less is more.

They can make pretty cars, the S2000 was a lovely looking thing, simple, elegant and flowing so they can do it. Not sure where this recent obsession to make every car look like it escaped from a Transformers movie comes from.