The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3
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Quite a few in this comp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO25tEIAiYM - some of them have been on here before but there is one in particular - 7.08 - in which a shorter version was shown here and it caused quite some debate*; this version has a lot of build up which may help explain things the earlier-posted clip doesn't.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
parabolica said:
Quite a few in this comp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO25tEIAiYM - some of them have been on here before but there is one in particular - 7.08 - in which a shorter version was shown here and it caused quite some debate*; this version has a lot of build up which may help explain things the earlier-posted clip doesn't.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
10:10 - politest road rage ever?*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
parabolica said:
Quite a few in this comp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO25tEIAiYM - some of them have been on here before but there is one in particular - 7.08 - in which a shorter version was shown here and it caused quite some debate*; this version has a lot of build up which may help explain things the earlier-posted clip doesn't.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
I can't see much build-up. The biker overtakes the Megane and the Renault driver kicks off for no particular reason. Are you saying his actions are justified somehow?*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
FreeLitres said:
I can't see much build-up. The biker overtakes the Megane and the Renault driver kicks off for no particular reason. Are you saying his actions are justified somehow?
No not at all - given the first 10 minutes of that vid are clips from the same guy I'd say he's part of the problem. I seem to recall the original video started a few minutes after we first saw the Megane in this vid - maybe I'm mistaken.parabolica said:
No not at all - given the first 10 minutes of that vid are clips from the same guy I'd say he's part of the problem. I seem to recall the original video started a few minutes after we first saw the Megane in this vid - maybe I'm mistaken.
Ahh I see where you are coming from. Are you sure that's the same rider in all the clips though? The bike/mirrors seem different in most of the clips. The uploaded has added their stamp in the bottom right corner but I don't think they recorded the clips. I might have this all wrong though.oceanview said:
Sometimes it doesn't matter who's driving- the laws of physics and all that, particularly with a shopping trolley Peugeot 207!
Also, just because they were a traffic cop, doesn't equate to brilliant driver in my book- I would expect any experienced track driver to be at least their equal - not even that really, as they're only used to controlled tame "pursuits" in training . And as for there "tactical containment training"- well, no wonder they f
k up so much in real world pursuits!
No doubt a few talented drivers but, just because you've had a bit of (lame) training doesn't make you a driving god- indeed, we could have say, football training with the best coaches/teams in the world but we aren't all going to end up premiership quality!!
Had a lot of police driver training, then? You seem in a very confident position to judge its quality and end product. Not all people coached by premiership coaches are premiership quality footballers, but the ones who get hired are. Some people fail the police courses, or even selection for them, in much the same way. Those that passed were also graded (not these days though, I believe) Class 1, Class 2 etc and Traffic and ARV had to be Class 1 (again afaik)... Also, just because they were a traffic cop, doesn't equate to brilliant driver in my book- I would expect any experienced track driver to be at least their equal - not even that really, as they're only used to controlled tame "pursuits" in training . And as for there "tactical containment training"- well, no wonder they f
k up so much in real world pursuits!No doubt a few talented drivers but, just because you've had a bit of (lame) training doesn't make you a driving god- indeed, we could have say, football training with the best coaches/teams in the world but we aren't all going to end up premiership quality!!
Edited by oceanview on Saturday 25th November 17:47
That aside, the DM does make you laugh. The ex-plod apparently thought it was 'save' to overtake, and said the 'road service' was good. I do like a road with good service.
The overtake looked fine to me, you could see through the bend and the one towards in the distance, plenty of room. I would +1 the comments about making sure the drivers were aware though, with horn and/or headlight flashes. Strange he didn't tbf, as it's pretty standard stuff for an AD. He did come out for a look to check it was on first before accelerating, but no other signals. Not many ex-traffic types drive around in little Pug 207s either! Maybe he's a wannabe Walt. A faster car would have been well past... Still down to the Hyundai to have checked properly though. Someone above said the Pug could have been in his blind spot. In a modern car with the mirrors adjusted properly (not that 99% do) it's pretty hard to have any significant blind spot around the vehicle. What starts disappearing out of your rear view is already appearing in your wing mirror, and as it leaves that it's already in your peripheral vision. Even with badly adjusted mirrors, that's what the lifesaver over the shoulder check is for...
numtumfutunch said:
Lance Catamaran said:
Dixy said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
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I think it exceptional for anyone ever to be 100% at fault, even when the other driver is not in the car (eg lake district tractor)[/footnote]
In this instance the SUV is undoubtedly a muppet who failed to do a Bob and Tom but I put him only partially to blame
Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one
As for leaving the scene- assuming he didn't bother to look behind him (and that's what caused the accident) he may have been completely unaware of it- there was no contact between the cars. Doesn't appear to have been charged with leaving/failing to report.
4x4Tyke said:
SUV totally responsible for accident.
The over-take was rash given the limited visibility and lack of power to accelerate up hill.
SUV at fault, but I agree, camera car is too slow to commit to that overtake. Too cautious or didn’t have enough power to safely pull it off.The over-take was rash given the limited visibility and lack of power to accelerate up hill.
Cliche alert - it’s not just the brakes that get you out of the s
t!I would add, the fact the Pug was following the SUV for some time, why would the SUV not check before he pulled out ?
I would draw the conculsion there is a very good chance he had not looked in any mirror for quite some time and maybe did not even know he had any car behind him let alone one overtaking.
I would draw the conculsion there is a very good chance he had not looked in any mirror for quite some time and maybe did not even know he had any car behind him let alone one overtaking.
Cliftonite said:
Wow, No debating who’s at fault there. Glad no serious injuries.breadvan said:
Cliftonite said:
Wow, No debating who’s at fault there. Glad no serious injuries.breadvan said:
Cliftonite said:
Wow, No debating who’s at fault there. Glad no serious injuries.parabolica said:
Quite a few in this comp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO25tEIAiYM - some of them have been on here before but there is one in particular - 7.08 - in which a shorter version was shown here and it caused quite some debate*; this version has a lot of build up which may help explain things the earlier-posted clip doesn't.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
03.00 Two guys get out of a silver Golf est to have words with a black SUV.*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
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Perhaps it was an old clip?
parabolica said:
Quite a few in this comp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO25tEIAiYM - some of them have been on here before but there is one in particular - 7.08 - in which a shorter version was shown here and it caused quite some debate*; this version has a lot of build up which may help explain things the earlier-posted clip doesn't.
*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
Where was the accident?*Guy in a Megane has an argy-bargy with a moped (DC'er) which results in the moped speeding off; guy gives chase and collides with an innocent party at some traffic lights.
Can you link to the longer clip?
numtumfutunch said:
You could argue that the SUV did look but the Peugeot was in his blind spot at that exact instant
Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one
The SUV should have known the Pug was previously behind it, so even though they might have seen nothing in the blind spot, they would have seen an empty space behind them where the Pug used to be. Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one
Blind spot problems are for people who don't maintain an awareness of what's around them.
jamei303 said:
numtumfutunch said:
You could argue that the SUV did look but the Peugeot was in his blind spot at that exact instant
Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one
The SUV should have known the Pug was previously behind it, so even though they might have seen nothing in the blind spot, they would have seen an empty space behind them where the Pug used to be. Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one
Blind spot problems are for people who don't maintain an awareness of what's around them.
Lance Catamaran said:
breadvan said:
Cliftonite said:
Wow, No debating who’s at fault there. Glad no serious injuries.In similar events I've noticed people complaining about the overtaker being on the wrong side of the road and doing so at speed, I'd say that was the safest way of overtaking.
eta: Whenever we overtake, we potentially put ourselves in the hands of those who skip the "mirror, signal" bit and go straight to the "..manoeuvre".
Edited by fausTVR on Sunday 26th November 09:34
Edited by fausTVR on Sunday 26th November 09:36
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