RE: Shed Of The Week: Renaultsport Clio 172
Discussion
egor110 said:
The cam belt i already mentioned , the rest you'd pick up on a test drive ie does it change gear smoothly.
Re the exhausts nobody replaces them with oem there's a wide range of aftermarket replacements.
Some people seem to want a car for under a grand and it all to be 100% perfect , you can't have your cake and eat it.
Yes, but has it been done by a specialist? If not, it ideally needs doing again for around £600.Re the exhausts nobody replaces them with oem there's a wide range of aftermarket replacements.
Some people seem to want a car for under a grand and it all to be 100% perfect , you can't have your cake and eat it.
Yes, i know, i did actually say that specifically if you read my reply.
FYI, the 172/182 is my next car which is the reason why i said i'd personally get a slightly better example for a bit more cash. That's just my opinion though and i can understand that SOTW doesn't really work like that and not everyone's in it for the same reason that i am in regards to this car.
egor110 said:
Perhaps sub £1000 sheds are not going to be for you then.
You need to go in with your eyes open and treat it as a gamble some you win and some you loose, if you never want to loose stick with a full lease where all the maintenance, tyres etc is done for you.
As i've said, i'd spend a bit more on one. Tbh, it's my fault, i'm commenting on this as my next car as apposed to a shed point of view.You need to go in with your eyes open and treat it as a gamble some you win and some you loose, if you never want to loose stick with a full lease where all the maintenance, tyres etc is done for you.
My apologies for any confusion.
Edited by culpz on Friday 27th January 12:35
Gribs said:
Richard-390a0 said:
Shame the tax is so high other than that looks like it could be worth a punt.
£300 a year on tax is expensive? It's an insignificant cost overall in running a performance car, pay it monthly at £25 and it's not noticeable. If it is then you really shouldn't be looking at anything other than something very basic.P.S I can comfortably afford to tax & run this car as a weekend plaything but I'd rather put £270 towards the cost of a cambelt / MOT repairs than spunk it on VED & hence I would probably look at other options.
Had a 182 from new (hence the username). Cup chassis, black with grey wheels. It was a great little car but when I started doing significant motorway miles it made way for a Golf MkV GTi.
More recently on a tighter budget I ran a 172 for a year. That one had 130,000 miles but crucially backed up with a full service history including two cambelt changes. It was also a great fun car. Acquitted itself well around Brands Indy circuit and reminded me about lairy lift-off oversteer
. Clutch was on the way out when I sold it for £800 about two years ago but otherwise it had a pretty robust feel about it.
More recently on a tighter budget I ran a 172 for a year. That one had 130,000 miles but crucially backed up with a full service history including two cambelt changes. It was also a great fun car. Acquitted itself well around Brands Indy circuit and reminded me about lairy lift-off oversteer
. Clutch was on the way out when I sold it for £800 about two years ago but otherwise it had a pretty robust feel about it.Me thinks they aren't very computer literate! I had one of these a few years ago just to take me to work and back and unfortunately I bought a lemon. I spent a small fortune sorting the knackered brakes and then it decided to have an intermittent starting fault which no one could diagnose. When it worked though I loved it, an absolute hooligans car that begged to be thrashed within an inch of its life. It was certainly the wrong car for me as I couldn't resist being a dick in it!
Richard-390a0 said:
It's expensive when you consider it's just under a third of the cost to buy the car. For the average punter running a shed if you looked at that & thought 'oh a clio that will be buttons to run' you would be in for a surprise when you come to tax it is my point.
P.S I can comfortably afford to tax & run this car as a weekend plaything but I'd rather put £270 towards the cost of a cambelt / MOT repairs than spunk it on VED & hence I would probably look at other options.
If you're spending shed money what can you get that offers similar performance and isn't at least £235 a year to tax? The only cars I think VED really effects are post 2006 boring stuff in the nearly £500 bandP.S I can comfortably afford to tax & run this car as a weekend plaything but I'd rather put £270 towards the cost of a cambelt / MOT repairs than spunk it on VED & hence I would probably look at other options.
8potdave said:
an absolute hooligans car that begged to be thrashed within an inch of its life. It was certainly the wrong car for me as I couldn't resist being a dick in it!
I thought that getting into mine this morning, wondered if I'd slow down a bit in a more sensible, boring commuter?!Jesus christ, you lot want a mint car for under £1k..
The gearboxes are fine? It's the later 197/200 which are a bit crunchy.
Cambelt, waterpump, dephaser, oil change is £500 at a specialist so not too bad, every 70k/5yrs.
I've had mine for 4 years now, absolutely great car, quick for what it is and great fun. £20 per month tax is hardly back breaking either. 35-40mpg too.
The gearboxes are fine? It's the later 197/200 which are a bit crunchy.
Cambelt, waterpump, dephaser, oil change is £500 at a specialist so not too bad, every 70k/5yrs.
I've had mine for 4 years now, absolutely great car, quick for what it is and great fun. £20 per month tax is hardly back breaking either. 35-40mpg too.
Gribs said:
Richard-390a0 said:
It's expensive when you consider it's just under a third of the cost to buy the car. For the average punter running a shed if you looked at that & thought 'oh a clio that will be buttons to run' you would be in for a surprise when you come to tax it is my point.
P.S I can comfortably afford to tax & run this car as a weekend plaything but I'd rather put £270 towards the cost of a cambelt / MOT repairs than spunk it on VED & hence I would probably look at other options.
If you're spending shed money what7 can you get that offers similar performance and isn't at least £235 a year to tax? The only cars I think VED really effects are post 2006 boring stuff in the nearly £500 bandP.S I can comfortably afford to tax & run this car as a weekend plaything but I'd rather put £270 towards the cost of a cambelt / MOT repairs than spunk it on VED & hence I would probably look at other options.
What's the actual cost of parts for a proper belt and bits change? And does it really need to be done by a "specialist"? £600 is what i paid for the full job on my Alfa V6 and that WAS done hy a specialist. Same price for Clio?! Appreciate you probably wouldn't want to trust a greasy back street place to do the job, but the Alfa specialist I mentioned looks exactly like that sort of place and they did the belt tensioners and pullets etc on my V70 T5 last year for a couple hundred quid, which again is supposed to be a "specialist" job because of the variable timing, yet they aren't a Volvo specialist and managed fine. Surely all you need is a trusted competent garage rather than a marque specific specialist.
We have one, 2002.
The belts in parts alone are probably £450 at a squeeze. The "dephaser pulley" is always bandied with it. Not doing that is ~£90 less? The aux belt and tensioners are ~£70, quite dear to be honest.
The entire value of these cars is predicated on whether the belt is done.
I did it myself, and cost me more because I decided to also renew the air con and radiator and mounts, and even with those not there, it was an unbelievably annoying job, there's really little space. It's keyless, so there's lots of importance placed on getting it timed right and torqued up correctly.
Even now, it's leaking oil, so I've probably cocked up the cam seals, or the crank seal is leaking, won't know unless I literally take it all off again.
It hasn't died on us however, and other than the rattles, it is quite a cracking motor, with climate control and cruise control (if you take the bits from a 182).
I used to pay £400 VED when I first got my S2000. By the time I sold it, they wanted £475 or something like that. My Elise is £180, same as our 1.6 Mk1 Focus!
£270 is fine in comparison.
The belts in parts alone are probably £450 at a squeeze. The "dephaser pulley" is always bandied with it. Not doing that is ~£90 less? The aux belt and tensioners are ~£70, quite dear to be honest.
The entire value of these cars is predicated on whether the belt is done.
I did it myself, and cost me more because I decided to also renew the air con and radiator and mounts, and even with those not there, it was an unbelievably annoying job, there's really little space. It's keyless, so there's lots of importance placed on getting it timed right and torqued up correctly.
Even now, it's leaking oil, so I've probably cocked up the cam seals, or the crank seal is leaking, won't know unless I literally take it all off again.
It hasn't died on us however, and other than the rattles, it is quite a cracking motor, with climate control and cruise control (if you take the bits from a 182).
I used to pay £400 VED when I first got my S2000. By the time I sold it, they wanted £475 or something like that. My Elise is £180, same as our 1.6 Mk1 Focus!
£270 is fine in comparison.
culpz said:
egor110 said:
Perhaps sub £1000 sheds are not going to be for you then.
You need to go in with your eyes open and treat it as a gamble some you win and some you loose, if you never want to loose stick with a full lease where all the maintenance, tyres etc is done for you.
As i've said, i'd spend a bit more on one. Tbh, it's my fault, i'm commenting on this as my next car as apposed to a shed point of view.You need to go in with your eyes open and treat it as a gamble some you win and some you loose, if you never want to loose stick with a full lease where all the maintenance, tyres etc is done for you.
My apologies for any confusion.
Edited by culpz on Friday 27th January 12:35
SDavyy said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Wrong, ask me how I know...
I assume yours went bang. Mine is on 110k, (i've done 40k of those, and changed gearbox oil 3 times in that time), and perfect. Clearly, they do go bang sometimes, but they aren't a huge issue.
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