£10k gbox bill on 4yr old Audi. Was it ever fit for purpose?
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jhonn said:
I'd be confirming that it had the correct oil and to the correct level before committing to any remedial work. (Even to the extent of having it drained/refilled by someone you can trust).
A friend of mine has a Jag and ended up with the same symptoms after changing his gearbox oil - he went to great lengths (and expense) to get the right oil but screwed up on the refill/level check process. It was fine for a short while then rapidly deteriorated.
He got it back on the ramp, filled it to the correct level (it's a complex, messy procedure) and the car is fine now.
I know the 'boxes are completely different - however, it's always worth checking the simple (cheap) things first before replacing major components.
It's unlikely that the whole box is beyond repair - that's just what Audi would do.
Absolutely worth making sure the correct oil was used and it was filled to the right point. Probably get it to an reputable indy to do this. Cost you a little money, but worth it if it solves the issue.A friend of mine has a Jag and ended up with the same symptoms after changing his gearbox oil - he went to great lengths (and expense) to get the right oil but screwed up on the refill/level check process. It was fine for a short while then rapidly deteriorated.
He got it back on the ramp, filled it to the correct level (it's a complex, messy procedure) and the car is fine now.
I know the 'boxes are completely different - however, it's always worth checking the simple (cheap) things first before replacing major components.
It's unlikely that the whole box is beyond repair - that's just what Audi would do.
Having it remapped doesn't help mind. Basically running the car outside its reliable spec. But given it ran fine until the oil change, I'd be looking at that first. It's the simplest answer.
MrJuice said:
The vast majority of people who get lung cancer are smokers. You have smoked by remapping the car. Your car has cancer. Now you are suggesting despite smoking your car's cancer is not related to the smoking
Good luck man.
Your mind is a truly scary place if that's how your thought process works.Good luck man.
The remap will have been logged online so Audi will be able to see it. Any other Audi dealer will also be able to see it. And it's the ultimate get out clause for a dealer or Audi UK to palm off any notion of a goodwill contribution. Dealer can file off a goodwill request, Audi UK will see TD1/2/23 and come back with no contribution.
As for the dealers only replace the whole lot, I know on the transverse DSG/Stronic boxes the only items available to order via the manufacturers part catalogue/parts ordering system are the clutches, the mechatronics unit or the whole box. No separate internal parts are listed as being available to order.
As for the dealers only replace the whole lot, I know on the transverse DSG/Stronic boxes the only items available to order via the manufacturers part catalogue/parts ordering system are the clutches, the mechatronics unit or the whole box. No separate internal parts are listed as being available to order.
EazyDuz said:
A remap will stress the gearbox way beyond any stress tests during production, so its your own fault.
Thats a rather simplistic view, a remap could damage mechanical parts like gears and shafts that take power but isn't going to overstress gearbox electronics or hydraulics that do the shifting etc, which is what fails on these boxes.EazyDuz said:
A remap will stress the gearbox way beyond any stress tests during production, so its your own fault.
Lol. I better not say that in front of my 13 year old Evo that's been running about 110 brake and 80 lbs/ft more torque than standard for half it's life, the original, standard, unmodified gearbox might blow up if it finds out! Doubt it though.J4CKO said:
9 and 15 grand for gearboxes, has the world gone mental ?
The whole car only costs like what 40 something, I know they arent a charity but that is ripping the arse out of it big time, think I would have to find a s/h one and get busy with the spanner, based on the assumption that if I paid £1500 for a box that lease me a hell of a lot for tools and my time, have had engines and boxes out before, suspect it would be quite a job but I just couldnt pay that much for a bloody gearbox.
Whats a 2012 A6 worth anyway, 18 grand ?
Well given it's one of 3 major parts of the car (engine and body being the other) I'm not surprised it's a major cost comparable to the car. The whole car only costs like what 40 something, I know they arent a charity but that is ripping the arse out of it big time, think I would have to find a s/h one and get busy with the spanner, based on the assumption that if I paid £1500 for a box that lease me a hell of a lot for tools and my time, have had engines and boxes out before, suspect it would be quite a job but I just couldnt pay that much for a bloody gearbox.
Whats a 2012 A6 worth anyway, 18 grand ?
Bear in mind that will be a retail price. So it's not like the dealer in question has much control over the price Audi charge. Especially when the box probably only costs £2K (guesstimate) to Audi in Germany anyway...
Heaveho said:
EazyDuz said:
A remap will stress the gearbox way beyond any stress tests during production, so its your own fault.
Lol. I better not say that in front of my 13 year old Evo that's been running about 110 brake and 80 lbs/ft more torque than standard for half it's life, the original, standard, unmodified gearbox might blow up if it finds out! Doubt it though.Heaveho said:
Lol. I better not say that in front of my 13 year old Evo that's been running about 110 brake and 80 lbs/ft more torque than standard for half it's life, the original, standard, unmodified gearbox might blow up if it finds out! Doubt it though.
So because it hasn't happened to you, that then applies to all makes and models? Lol. I suppose next you'll claim your grandad lived to 110 having been chain smoking since he was 13, so lung cancer is a myth. J4CKO said:
9 and 15 grand for gearboxes, has the world gone mental ?
The whole car only costs like what 40 something, I know they arent a charity but that is ripping the arse out of it big time, think I would have to find a s/h one and get busy with the spanner, based on the assumption that if I paid £1500 for a box that lease me a hell of a lot for tools and my time, have had engines and boxes out before, suspect it would be quite a job but I just couldnt pay that much for a bloody gearbox.
Whats a 2012 A6 worth anyway, 18 grand ?
This, the quote for the work is just insane. You can have it reconditioned for thousands upon thousands less, and I'm willing to bet if they did the work they'd also recondition it for £1500 making that alot of profit in their pocket.The whole car only costs like what 40 something, I know they arent a charity but that is ripping the arse out of it big time, think I would have to find a s/h one and get busy with the spanner, based on the assumption that if I paid £1500 for a box that lease me a hell of a lot for tools and my time, have had engines and boxes out before, suspect it would be quite a job but I just couldnt pay that much for a bloody gearbox.
Whats a 2012 A6 worth anyway, 18 grand ?
Edited by J4CKO on Saturday 18th February 17:57
I know they're a long way from you but it's well worth giving these guys a call and talk over the fault you have.
I had my DSG box fixed there after several misdiagnoses and outrageous prices from other places, they did mine while I waited (Mk5 Golf GTi) and they repair Audi s-tronic in house too.
http://www.bristolgearboxcentre.com/our-services/
They're a good bunch and specialise in VW DSG and Audi S-Tronics etc
I had my DSG box fixed there after several misdiagnoses and outrageous prices from other places, they did mine while I waited (Mk5 Golf GTi) and they repair Audi s-tronic in house too.
http://www.bristolgearboxcentre.com/our-services/
They're a good bunch and specialise in VW DSG and Audi S-Tronics etc
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
As above. Gearboxs are sealed units fro an OEM perspective. The service department will therefore not crack them open and fix them. Just replace them.
Crackers, but tis the way the laboratories of modern main dealer workshops.
No. The owner of the dealer knows a diagnosis and fix can bring them peanuts and you have to train, employ and retain good staff. Plug and play isn't your problem' it's big rewards for no risk or staffing headaches.Crackers, but tis the way the laboratories of modern main dealer workshops.
nickfrog said:
Agent XXX said:
Must be that excellent German superior quality and reliability that people go on about.
Very reasonable repair prices too.
Another superbly balanced contribution after that recent classic:Very reasonable repair prices too.
Agent XXX said:
People that think german cars are of a 'superior quality' to others are deluded t*ats
Agree. However how can a remap destroy a gearbox? Unless the OP was aiming for 100% extra power and monster torque.
That's the part that's crap- the gearbox had a fault of its own. Sometimes something like a map can help reveal a existing issue.
The problem with ALL modern complex cars are that they have masses of electronics now. Electronics that in a Consumer environment would only have 1-2yrs warranty in a shop.
That's the part that's crap- the gearbox had a fault of its own. Sometimes something like a map can help reveal a existing issue.
The problem with ALL modern complex cars are that they have masses of electronics now. Electronics that in a Consumer environment would only have 1-2yrs warranty in a shop.
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