RE: Range Rover Velar teased
Discussion
I had one of the first Range Rovers in the 70's and it was a limousine, a sports car, a tractor, a truck, a van, a cross country vehicle and a bus, it was acceptable at The Ritz, had a marvelous driving position and cured my daughter's travel sickness! Those who don't get it just don't get it!
torchy6 said:
I had one of the first Range Rovers in the 70's and it was a limousine, a sports car, a tractor, a truck, a van, a cross country vehicle and a bus, it was acceptable at The Ritz, had a marvelous driving position and cured my daughter's travel sickness! Those who don't get it just don't get it!
A vehilcle I would love to get my ahnds on now but those whoch haven't rotted away are commanding top money.I have an Uncle who had one , three doors, beige with matching interior. I thought it was just incredible as a ten year old. Still do many years later.
DonkeyApple said:
Land Rover was old Britain. s
ttily cobbled together with a that'll do attitude and a belief that no one could possibly want a vehicle made by Johnny Foreigner. Range Rover is new Britain. sttily built, covered in bling and rented to ponces who haven't any actual money so have to get a diesel. 
Amusing that the teaser pic for a 'British' brand is a LHD. These new 'lease addict ponces' you cite are not worth the effort of releasing a simultaneous RHD pic for, it appears!ttily cobbled together with a that'll do attitude and a belief that no one could possibly want a vehicle made by Johnny Foreigner. Range Rover is new Britain. sttily built, covered in bling and rented to ponces who haven't any actual money so have to get a diesel. hyphen said:
DonkeyApple said:
Land Rover was old Britain. sttily cobbled together with a that'll do attitude and a belief that no one could possibly want a vehicle made by Johnny Foreigner. Range Rover is new Britain. sttily built, covered in bling and rented to ponces who haven't any actual money so have to get a diesel.
Amusing that the teaser pic for a 'British' brand is a LHD. These new 'lease addict ponces' you cite are not worth the effort of releasing a simultaneous RHD pic for, it appears!ttily cobbled together with a that'll do attitude and a belief that no one could possibly want a vehicle made by Johnny Foreigner. Range Rover is new Britain. sttily built, covered in bling and rented to ponces who haven't any actual money so have to get a diesel. Looking at these recent stats highlights the real importance of JLR to the UK and probably why they used a LHD image?
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-41...
[b]Car makers built a massive 1,722,698 models in 2016 - the most since 1999
Of all the vehicles built, 83.6% were shipped overseas
A total of 1.35 million cars built in the UK were exported - the highest figure ever
Jaguar Land Rover built 544,000 units in 2016 alone - more than any other car maker[/b]
The article would seem to suggest that JLR are the largest car manufacturer in the U.K. And if they are exporting over 80% of their production to outside of the UK that's a phenomenally important level of money for the UKs BoP. Plus, if filling in the model range with cars like this VELAR maintains business growth, secures existing jobs and creates new jobs then despite our protestations about aspects of the brand they clearly have their business firing on all cylinders for the current global market place.
hyphen said:
Amusing that the teaser pic for a 'British' brand is a LHD. These new 'lease addict ponces' you cite are not worth the effort of releasing a simultaneous RHD pic for, it appears!
Does it really matter? Most built will be LHD. I doubt anyone in the UK OZ SA Japan or anywhere else that's RHD will not buy one because of that picture.hyphen said:
Amusing that the teaser pic for a 'British' brand is a LHD. These new 'lease addict ponces' you cite are not worth the effort of releasing a simultaneous RHD pic for, it appears!
That's because Brits know that RHD will be available. Potential overseas customers who might not be as aware could well assume that a picture of a RHD car automatically means that the steering wheel will be on the wrong side for them and lose interest. True story.
popeyewhite said:
petemurphy said:
popeyewhite said:
No it's a basic utilitarian off-road looking vehicle versus an utterly pointless Chelsea tractor.
why is it pointless do tellBoring.
If everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
If everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
kbf1981 said:
Boring.
If everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
Porsche have survived their common ubiquity by producing a few special cars and then telling the peasantry that they can never have one. If everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
kbf1981 said:
Boring.
If everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
That's why no one ever buys a Mercedes S-Class now - everyone thinks it's a SprinterIf everyone has an "aspirational" product, like a Range Rover, it's no longer aspirational. They're spreading the brand too thin and inviting others to steal their sales. If I was spending £100k on a top spec Range Rover, would I want other people thinking my neighbour in the £50k Velor / Evoque / Whatever had the same car?
Nope. Harsh but true.
They need a Defender replacement. Sales or no sales, it was the heart of the brand and gave the brand it's legitamacy. Without a Defender, Land Rover are just another Porsche, BMW, Merc or other generic "aspirational" brand.
Is anyone else getting tired of aspirational products? I've been very lucky in life so maybe that's coloured my perspective, but it seems so desperate to buy things principally because of what you think it says to other people about you.
thecook101 said:
I don't get the hate.
There's no hate, not from me anyway.thecook101 said:
The RRS is a fantastic vehicle
It's a brick that handles like a Golf GTI, has awful suspension and uses twice as much fuel. The interior is easily worse than the Disco 3, but it's vast enough to bully its way along a narrow country lane or make an insecure wife feel safe when hitting other cars in Sainsbury's. With standard alloys it's not even very good off-road, which is kind of the point of it. Not even trendy enough to be bourgeois - I haven't an honest clue why anyone would buy one, unless they shave their head and are involved in the building trade.popeyewhite said:
It's a brick that handles like a Golf GTI, has awful suspension and uses twice as much fuel. The interior is easily worse than the Disco 3, but it's vast enough to bully its way along a narrow country lane or make an insecure wife feel safe when hitting other cars in Sainsbury's. With standard alloys it's not even very good off-road, which is kind of the point of it. Not even trendy enough to be bourgeois - I haven't an honest clue why anyone would buy one, unless they shave their head and are involved in the building trade.
"There's no hate from me."Other than the cliche laden invective that's about to follow and no doubt underpinned by zero first hand experience.
Top work !
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 February 19:51
popeyewhite said:
It's a brick that handles like a Golf GTI, has awful suspension and uses twice as much fuel. The interior is easily worse than the Disco 3, but it's vast enough to bully its way along a narrow country lane or make an insecure wife feel safe when hitting other cars in Sainsbury's. With standard alloys it's not even very good off-road, which is kind of the point of it. Not even trendy enough to be bourgeois - I haven't an honest clue why anyone would buy one, unless they shave their head and are involved in the building trade.
I've had two now and can't relate to anything you say:Suspension - what is awful about it? Comfy when needed, firms up when needed and lifts 8" further up if you want to wind your short wife up. How is that awful?
Fuel - my 4.4 V8 diesel averaged 31, does a Golf GTI average 60 then? I bet it's not actually that much more.
Interior worse than a Disco 3? Now you just sound silly.
Not good off road with standard alloys? Is that your view from experience or something you made up?
It's obviously not for you for whatever reason, but that doesn't make them wrong for everyone. I look forward to her Maj getting rid of hers too as they are only for scrap dealers done well!
Edit to add - nice to see you popping up in the Land Rover forum to p*ss on someone's chips about their new Disco Sport as well. Classy.
Edited by Pintofbest on Wednesday 22 February 19:50
Edited by Pintofbest on Wednesday 22 February 19:52
popeyewhite said:
It's a brick that handles like a Golf GTI, has awful suspension and uses twice as much fuel. The interior is easily worse than the Disco 3, but it's vast enough to bully its way along a narrow country lane or make an insecure wife feel safe when hitting other cars in Sainsbury's. With standard alloys it's not even very good off-road, which is kind of the point of it. Not even trendy enough to be bourgeois - I haven't an honest clue why anyone would buy one, unless they shave their head and are involved in the building trade.
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