RE: Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid

[Green1man]

Yeh, slicks or special rubber would certainly bring the time down. The tesla can overcome the tyre grip at anything up to about 40mph, so it's the grip that is limiting the time.

[ChrisRS6]

bks to the Tesla.


This thing has best of both worlds....will sound awesome too.

Handling wise it will leave the Tesla wanting.

[renrut]

Well done Porsche! I have a lot of respect for them completely playing the rules on this. And hey if you're spending north of £100k on a saloon car you should expect it to do everything.

Although I suspect it will eat tyres at a prodigious rate if used at anything more than all electric mode, that's usually the bit trying to make physics bend on these behemoth 'sports cars'.

[rtz62]

97.4mpg my backside!
It's a bit like that wonderful picture of a BigMac you see when you enter the establishment of 'the golden arches'; huge, with thick patties, a veritable English vegetable garden full of salad stuff, and wonderful moist cobs.
The reality, as we all know, is a disappointment and a charade, just like Mr (D Fens) Bill Foster explains to the burger-flipper in 'Falling Down'
It's about time the government made manufacturers give us genuine, real-world, attainable by any Tom, Dick or Harry mpg figures, rather than something they thought up in some automotive wet dream.

[Krikkit]

rtz62 said:

It's about time the government made manufacturers give us genuine, real-world, attainable by any Tom, Dick or Harry mpg figures, rather than something they thought up in some automotive wet dream.

They're mastering a test which is government-set, they're prohibited from giving any other measures of economy.

[saxy]

Chris Stott said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

WTAF : 0-62mph in 3.4 seconds

I think this is brilliant

Still around a second slower than a Tesla P100D

Porsche have always had a reputation of reporting performance figures much slower than what their cars can. There is no way this car isn't doing 0-100kph in under 3 seconds.

[MrBarry123]

Raramuri said:

If that will do 97mpg in real world conditions I will eat my own face.

You're not convinced then?

[samro]

I wonder if the same powertrain will end up in the new Bentley GT - they will share a platform by all accounts. That could be very interesting!

[biggrim]

You'll never get close to the 31 mile range. It's very dependant on traffic and road conditions/incline etc. I've got the A3 etron which promises the same range and in reality I'll get about 16 miles out of it on my way to work before the battery is depleted. I can believe the mpg claims as when on battery, you'll see 300mpg on the trip computer. When the IcE kicks in it can take a few minutes to drag that down so depends on how long the NDEC tests are. I can regenerate around 4-5 miles on my journey home and get about 43-55mpg on my way home.

This will be a popular model as will be exempt from any congestion charges etc.

[rollo]

Soon as they launch the estate car version, which looks fabulous, it goes to the top of my wish list. Meanwhile, I make do with my 155mph, all-aluminium, V8-40v, AWD, 4-door, 17-year-old, £3000 Audi S8.

[rtz62]

Krikkit said:

rtz62 said:

It's about time the government made manufacturers give us genuine, real-world, attainable by any Tom, Dick or Harry mpg figures, rather than something they thought up in some automotive wet dream.

They're mastering a test which is government-set, they're prohibited from giving any other measures of economy.

I've been around long enough to have seen mpg figures change over the years (driving since 1980) and back then I guess I wasn't bothered about mpg (my second car was a Fiesta supersport, my third a carb Escort XR3 followed by several TurboTechnics cars), and it was all about how fast I could hoon around the traffic-free roads.
I'm only repeating what many before me have said, in that the mpg figures should be, for want of a better phrase, fit for purpose..
My Octavia TDI averages 51-54 mpg on the 7-mile each way school run (starting from cold twice a day) which isn't bad but nowhere near the official figures. Having said that, a run down to London on a Sunday returned mpg in the high 60's.
I'm not use HOW, the test should be revised, but revised it should be IMHO.

[kbf1981]

Anyone hot on the rules for company directors - I remember something like hybrid cars being 100% write down in the 1st year and a number of benefits.... hence why you saw lots of i8's pop up on company fleets when they came out?

[Aeroresh]

kbf1981 said:

Anyone hot on the rules for company directors - I remember something like hybrid cars being 100% write down in the 1st year and a number of benefits.... hence why you saw lots of i8's pop up on company fleets when they came out?

Yep, currently anything under 75 co2s is 100% write down in the first year. Where do I sign?!!

[WCZ]

Aeroresh said:

Yep, currently anything under 75 co2s is 100% write down in the first year. Where do I sign?!!

what a great company car, Porsche are exploiting a completely retarded system