RE: Range Rover Velar - full details

RE: Range Rover Velar - full details

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The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Just watched this video, and I nearly spat my tea out.

At 12:00 one of their electronic engineers is showing off the new touchscreen set up. He says 'there is no need anymore to flick through menus, everything is at your fingertips', but while he's saying that, his hand is shown FLICKING THROUGH fkING MENUS - to put the heated seats on.

Sorry, but if that's the case - no deal.
Hysterical bh hyperbole or straight lies, not for me to decide but he presses 2 "buttons".

One to go to seats and on for on.

End of the feckin world.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Kierkegaard said:
Granfondo said:
The entry price is like clickbate,I wonder how many £45k Velars will be sold?
I just went to the configurator and I would have a base, poverty, low bog, minimalist spec. I don't need big wheels, privacy glass, fancy lights, sunroofs, any 'packs' of any description and would suffice with the 180 engine. It's a heavy SUV, I'm not racing it. Even got flat black paint. £45k done!

...only, I would probably buy a used normal Range Rover spec'd to the gills instead...
So you want a poverty spec car but you don't really? wink

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Granfondo said:
Kierkegaard said:
Granfondo said:
The entry price is like clickbate,I wonder how many £45k Velars will be sold?
I just went to the configurator and I would have a base, poverty, low bog, minimalist spec. I don't need big wheels, privacy glass, fancy lights, sunroofs, any 'packs' of any description and would suffice with the 180 engine. It's a heavy SUV, I'm not racing it. Even got flat black paint. £45k done!

...only, I would probably buy a used normal Range Rover spec'd to the gills instead...
So you want a poverty spec car but you don't really? wink
If I were buying a car new I would be happy with poverty spec and keep it forever (or try to) and not in a skinflint type of way. But if I were buying used, which I have done all my life I wouldn't even entertain a boggo spec...funny that, I agree.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Kierkegaard said:
Granfondo said:
Kierkegaard said:
Granfondo said:
The entry price is like clickbate,I wonder how many £45k Velars will be sold?
I just went to the configurator and I would have a base, poverty, low bog, minimalist spec. I don't need big wheels, privacy glass, fancy lights, sunroofs, any 'packs' of any description and would suffice with the 180 engine. It's a heavy SUV, I'm not racing it. Even got flat black paint. £45k done!

...only, I would probably buy a used normal Range Rover spec'd to the gills instead...
So you want a poverty spec car but you don't really? wink
If I were buying a car new I would be happy with poverty spec and keep it forever (or try to) and not in a skinflint type of way. But if I were buying used, which I have done all my life I wouldn't even entertain a boggo spec...funny that, I agree.
nuts

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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ash73 said:
McGovern is the Laurence Llewellyn Bowen of the motoring world. His hair used to be so much more spectacular though.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Just watched this video, and I nearly spat my tea out.

At 12:00 one of their electronic engineers is showing off the new touchscreen set up. He says 'there is no need anymore to flick through menus, everything is at your fingertips', but while he's saying that, his hand is shown FLICKING THROUGH fkING MENUS - to put the heated seats on.

Sorry, but if that's the case - no deal.
In the new Panamera you have to wade through the system to move the electrically controlled air vents. How fecking stupid is that?

Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Osinjak said:
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In the new Panamera you have to wade through the system to move the electrically controlled air vents. How fecking stupid is that?
If you have to do it every time - ridiculously stupid.

The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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ash73 said:
as7920 said:
However the following great video of the car outside in the daylight gives a better perspective (with the designers and engineers) of the car IRL.

https://youtu.be/in8Ur-BrWm4
Looking well...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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omg , no fk this really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhnbnBf0UY

jesus stop the planet...

Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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RobDickinson said:
omg , no fk this really?
U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhnbnBf0UY

jesus stop the planet...
So you're driving down the road and want to direct a bit more air towards your face. You happy with taking your eyes off the road while you tap your way through an on-screen menu to achieve that are you....?

Ridiculous overkill.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Cobnapint said:
So you're driving down the road and want to direct a bit more air towards your face. You happy with taking your eyes off the road while you tap your way through an on-screen menu to achieve that are you....?

Ridiculous overkill.
That's the answer to the question no one asked....

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Cobnapint said:
RobDickinson said:
omg , no fk this really?
U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhnbnBf0UY

jesus stop the planet...
So you're driving down the road and want to direct a bit more air towards your face. You happy with taking your eyes off the road while you tap your way through an on-screen menu to achieve that are you....?

Ridiculous overkill.
Exactly. It's just completely unnecessary.

DonkeyApple

55,310 posts

169 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Osinjak said:
Cobnapint said:
RobDickinson said:
omg , no fk this really?
U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhnbnBf0UY

jesus stop the planet...
So you're driving down the road and want to direct a bit more air towards your face. You happy with taking your eyes off the road while you tap your way through an on-screen menu to achieve that are you....?

Ridiculous overkill.
Exactly. It's just completely unnecessary.
Not really. How often do people take their car back to a dealer to fix a traditional vent? Now with them having servos, wiring etc there is much more to go wrong and can only be fixed by taking the car to a dealer and paying money to them. Or it could be as simple as they reckon someone dumb enough to pay their financing rates probably can't work out how a traditional vent works? biggrin

JiggyJaggy

1,451 posts

140 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Great video. Thanks

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Osinjak said:
Cobnapint said:
RobDickinson said:
omg , no fk this really?
U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhnbnBf0UY

jesus stop the planet...
So you're driving down the road and want to direct a bit more air towards your face. You happy with taking your eyes off the road while you tap your way through an on-screen menu to achieve that are you....?

Ridiculous overkill.
Exactly. It's just completely unnecessary.
Not really. How often do people take their car back to a dealer to fix a traditional vent? Now with them having servos, wiring etc there is much more to go wrong and can only be fixed by taking the car to a dealer and paying money to them. Or it could be as simple as they reckon someone dumb enough to pay their financing rates probably can't work out how a traditional vent works? biggrin
I stand corrected! Cunning..

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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anonymous said:
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+1. If I had the pennies I'd be all over it but I don't so that's that. Funnily enough, I've been looking for a Macan for the last few months and with the Velar and the Panamera Turismo out the Macan has just become a little less appealing.

DonkeyApple

55,310 posts

169 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Osinjak said:
I stand corrected! Cunning..
It is a baffling one. Selecting a menu, then holding buttons down trying to feel if the air is now being blown in the preferred direction just seems such a backward step from just reaching out and moving the vent manually and done with it.

I really feel this sort of thing falls into the category of 'just because you can, doesn't mean you need to'.

Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Because we touch glass to operate our phones and tablets, the car manufacturers think we crave touching a flat surface in our cars as well, even to the point of making the thing stick up out of the dash like some kind of 'look at me - I'm modern' statement.

They forget that the primary function of the human in a car is being in control of it while it's in motion. Touchscreens are not compatible with this requirement, and while the government is telling us not to be distracted by hand held devices whilst driving, car manufacturers are saying 'get unnecessarily distracted by this instead' - and are getting away with it.

It's a ludicrous situation.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I had a Macan for 24hrs a few weeks ago with a touchscreen and really didn't like it. I tried fiddling with it whilst on the motorway and found myself drifting so left it well alone after that. I'm used to my iDrive and the eyeline of the display which means I can keep one eye on the road without looking down and prodding and pressing things. I dare say you could used to it but as a first introduction I wasn't wild about it.

DonkeyApple

55,310 posts

169 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Because we touch glass to operate our phones and tablets, the car manufacturers think we crave touching a flat surface in our cars as well, even to the point of making the thing stick up out of the dash like some kind of 'look at me - I'm modern' statement.

They forget that the primary function of the human in a car is being in control of it while it's in motion. Touchscreens are not compatible with this requirement, and while the government is telling us not to be distracted by hand held devices whilst driving, car manufacturers are saying 'get unnecessarily distracted by this instead' - and are getting away with it.

It's a ludicrous situation.
This was my view of the Tesla set up when I drive it. I just couldn't see the benefit of removing tactile switch gear that you never needed to take your eyes off the road to use perfectly easily to screens where you have to use one hand to hold your other hand steady down a bumpy road and look at the screen the whole time. I really thought it was crazy and yet it would appear to be the way more are going.