Are the wheels about to fall of car finance?

Are the wheels about to fall of car finance?

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,306 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim?
Yes, something like that!

limpsfield

5,887 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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limpsfield said:
I can't keep up with the kids these days.
Pimp your mobility scootersmile

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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limpsfield said:
lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.
No, but acronym is. wink

"obvs"

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Ares said:
limpsfield said:
lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.
No, but acronym is. wink

"obvs"
Yes yes...I've corrected the typo tongue out

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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lord trumpton said:
Ares said:
limpsfield said:
lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.
No, but acronym is. wink

"obvs"
Yes yes...I've corrected the typo tongue out
Try again wink

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Ares said:
lord trumpton said:
Ares said:
limpsfield said:
lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.
No, but acronym is. wink

"obvs"
Yes yes...I've corrected the typo tongue out
Try again wink
redcard

I'm st. I'm off.

insideline

138 posts

225 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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s m said:
4941cc said:
s m said:
4941cc said:
Ford introduced the PCP nearly 25 years ago, branded as Ford Options.
Ford Options - mid 90s

The mid-90s = nearly 25 years ago to my mind...
Indeed, I was just posting an ad from then which supported your statement, not refuting it.

I also remember schemes before then
Ford Options launched in the U.K. in 1988 it was a derivation of a personal lease scheme they had in the US called Red Carpet which had been very successful over there at the time.

Henners

12,230 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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lord trumpton said:
Ares said:
lord trumpton said:
Ares said:
limpsfield said:
lord trumpton said:
Is obvs an anacraynim? Never heard that one
Is anacraynim a word? I can't keep up with the kids these days.
No, but acronym is. wink

"obvs"
Yes yes...I've corrected the typo tongue out
Try again wink
redcard

I'm st. I'm off.
hehe

Threadbear

58 posts

95 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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After two years PCP of anguish over a dreadfully unreliable Polo, I managed to voluntarily terminate my PCP with a charge of £9.00. I was two years into three year agreement. I am now in a 2016 Octavia that I bought on a 3 year personal loan from my bank. I plan to keep the car for a long time as being a diesel will be considered the anti christ. Well built, spacious, comfortable, very good on diesel and handles well. What more do you need?

I would never ever have another PCP.

djc206

12,367 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Threadbear said:
After two years PCP of anguish over a dreadfully unreliable Polo, I managed to voluntarily terminate my PCP with a charge of £9.00. I was two years into three year agreement. I am now in a 2016 Octavia that I bought on a 3 year personal loan from my bank. I plan to keep the car for a long time as being a diesel will be considered the anti christ. Well built, spacious, comfortable, very good on diesel and handles well. What more do you need?

I would never ever have another PCP.
How is the PCP an issue there? If you'd bought a lemon with a cash loan you'd still have had negative equity with a new car and a car that wasn't working for you. I would have thought your anger and disappointment would be directed at the VW group (you've gone and purchased another car made by them) not the finance house that merely facilitated the original purchase.

daemon

35,848 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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djc206 said:
Threadbear said:
After two years PCP of anguish over a dreadfully unreliable Polo, I managed to voluntarily terminate my PCP with a charge of £9.00. I was two years into three year agreement. I am now in a 2016 Octavia that I bought on a 3 year personal loan from my bank. I plan to keep the car for a long time as being a diesel will be considered the anti christ. Well built, spacious, comfortable, very good on diesel and handles well. What more do you need?

I would never ever have another PCP.
How is the PCP an issue there? If you'd bought a lemon with a cash loan you'd still have had negative equity with a new car and a car that wasn't working for you. I would have thought your anger and disappointment would be directed at the VW group (you've gone and purchased another car made by them) not the finance house that merely facilitated the original purchase.
Similar with my dad - hes outraged that the Seat Ibiza he bought new has given him so much trouble (on its 3rd engine by the time it had 5,000 miles on it and various other problems) that hes going to get rid of it - and buy ANOTHER new Seat Ibiza. That'll show 'em. rolleyes

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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djc206 said:
Threadbear said:
After two years PCP of anguish over a dreadfully unreliable Polo, I managed to voluntarily terminate my PCP with a charge of £9.00. I was two years into three year agreement. I am now in a 2016 Octavia that I bought on a 3 year personal loan from my bank. I plan to keep the car for a long time as being a diesel will be considered the anti christ. Well built, spacious, comfortable, very good on diesel and handles well. What more do you need?

I would never ever have another PCP.
How is the PCP an issue there? If you'd bought a lemon with a cash loan you'd still have had negative equity with a new car and a car that wasn't working for you. I would have thought your anger and disappointment would be directed at the VW group (you've gone and purchased another car made by them) not the finance house that merely facilitated the original purchase.
Exactly, unless your bank offers better loan rates than you can get with PCP (highly unlikely due to the secured and term nature of a PCP), there is no advantage.

A PCP's car can still be sold and the finance paid off early, but you also have a plethora of other options.

Threadbear

58 posts

95 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Ares said:
djc206 said:
Threadbear said:
After two years PCP of anguish over a dreadfully unreliable Polo, I managed to voluntarily terminate my PCP with a charge of £9.00. I was two years into three year agreement. I am now in a 2016 Octavia that I bought on a 3 year personal loan from my bank. I plan to keep the car for a long time as being a diesel will be considered the anti christ. Well built, spacious, comfortable, very good on diesel and handles well. What more do you need?

I would never ever have another PCP.
How is the PCP an issue there? If you'd bought a lemon with a cash loan you'd still have had negative equity with a new car and a car that wasn't working for you. I would have thought your anger and disappointment would be directed at the VW group (you've gone and purchased another car made by them) not the finance house that merely facilitated the original purchase.
Exactly, unless your bank offers better loan rates than you can get with PCP (highly unlikely due to the secured and term nature of a PCP), there is no advantage.

A PCP's car can still be sold and the finance paid off early, but you also have a plethora of other options.
I think I didn't explain myself correctly here! Because the car was a lemon, I had great difficulty rejecting the car as they continually fixed the faults . You are correct, the PCP has nothing to do with the reliability of the car. I guess in some ways the PCP did allow me to hand the car back after two years albeit under voluntary termination.

daemon

35,848 posts

198 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Threadbear said:
I think I didn't explain myself correctly here! Because the car was a lemon, I had great difficulty rejecting the car as they continually fixed the faults . You are correct, the PCP has nothing to do with the reliability of the car. I guess in some ways the PCP did allow me to hand the car back after two years albeit under voluntary termination.
Your ability to reject wasnt impacted by the fact you had it on PCP?

In fact it would have been greater, because you could have - and should have - asked the finance company to step in as they owned the car.

I cant see at all why you were relating a lemon of a car to "i'll never use PCP again"?

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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daemon said:
Threadbear said:
I think I didn't explain myself correctly here! Because the car was a lemon, I had great difficulty rejecting the car as they continually fixed the faults . You are correct, the PCP has nothing to do with the reliability of the car. I guess in some ways the PCP did allow me to hand the car back after two years albeit under voluntary termination.
Your ability to reject wasnt impacted by the fact you had it on PCP?

In fact it would have been greater, because you could have - and should have - asked the finance company to step in as they owned the car.

I cant see at all why you were relating a lemon of a car to "i'll never use PCP again"?
Exactly, you reason for disliking PCP/finance are the reasons why you should have loved it more?

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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FCA have, this morning, announced a review of the motor finance market. To be published in Q1 next year.
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-stories/our-work-...

em177

3,131 posts

165 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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hyphen said:
FCA have, this morning, announced a review of the motor finance market. To be published in Q1 next year.
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-stories/our-work-...
And it starts.

Rockettvr

1,804 posts

144 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I see Peter Hitchens of Mail on Sunday has written a bit about the issue of car finance http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4743244/...
Also I was in the Republic of Ireland a couple of weeks back and their government is launching an investigation into the way pcp's are sold and the huge amount of credit owed on them. Seems the powers that be are getting twitchy

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I withdrew from my last one (took it to get the deposit contribution) and the one before that was 0% (bizarrely with a contribution as well).

Will I still be able to get compensation?