RE: 50 limits by the back door: PH Blog
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Another example is the Bryn-glas tunnels, I have never driven on that section and it not been 50mph and the result is always a tailback which those limits have created.
Most people always used to manage to drive that section without too much hassle, but the signs now create the problem. Drive that section on a Friday afternoon and the tail back is well past Newport and as soon as you are past the tunnel normality returns.
Most people always used to manage to drive that section without too much hassle, but the signs now create the problem. Drive that section on a Friday afternoon and the tail back is well past Newport and as soon as you are past the tunnel normality returns.
I also have to agree - smart motorways are not so smart, in fact it's hazardous, the smart motorways seems good on paper, but in practise it is immensely impractical, I do wonder who the come with the idea was sincere or insidious motive to get the car users to be 'Fed-up and stressed' driving and or, to generate 'money making Machine' or both...
Don't treat people like idiots, otherwise you will have whole lot of problem coming up associated becoming mindless autonomy...
Don't treat people like idiots, otherwise you will have whole lot of problem coming up associated becoming mindless autonomy...
SBDJ said:
Did you invent the system or something? You seem very defensive of it, despite the admission by someone who works for the HA earlier in the thread that it does get things wrong resulting in random lower speed limits. The traffic queue explanation doesn't always fit. Seems a couple of slow moving lorries can result in a drop to 40mph for everyone else further back.
No. Nothing is perfect. I just find it genuinely hilarious that some people appear to be moaning that they're not getting stuck in traffic. Even funnier is that they don't realise that's what they're doing Kenny Powers said:
Perhaps the signs should say "there are traffic problems, but because we are limiting your speed, the road ahead will be clear by the time you get there, so stop your whining"?
Might be a bit distracting though
Don't confuse coincidence with cause and effect. Speed limits could be mucked about with on a quiet motorway and because there is no traffic jam you could assume the speed limit reductions prevented one that would have occured without them. Might be a bit distracting though
I wore green underpants today and didn't get stuck in a traffic jam, so I could say wearing green underpants prevents traffic congestion and everybody should be fined for wearing any colour of underpants other than green.
Kenny Powers said:
Yeah well each to their own. Not worth arguing over
You guys continue raising your blood pressure over something that's pretty unimportant, and I'll continue to enjoy the hugely reduced congestion that I experience these days on motorways. Everyone's a winner
Not sure if serious.You guys continue raising your blood pressure over something that's pretty unimportant, and I'll continue to enjoy the hugely reduced congestion that I experience these days on motorways. Everyone's a winner
Does this one work?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
There's nothing in the report about whether its improved congestion or safety only about how many fines issued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
There's nothing in the report about whether its improved congestion or safety only about how many fines issued
saaby93 said:
Does this one work?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
There's nothing in the report about whether its improved congestion or safety only about how many fines issued
Surely you're not expecting the former?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
There's nothing in the report about whether its improved congestion or safety only about how many fines issued
FiF said:
Not sure if serious.
I most certainly am, sir! I've been driving for nearly thirty years. In that time I've seen congestion on our motorways steadily increasing to the point of making many unusable. Now, since the introduction of smart motorways, I find that although my life has been catastrophically ruined by variable speed limits, I spend far less time stationary.
Therefore, in my opinion, they work. They're certainly not perfect, but this discussion has gone a long way to further educate me, and I accept that, overall, they make my life easier. But perhaps that's in part because I don't find it difficult to see huge red-ringed illuminated signs on overhead gantries, and I don't spend my days actively looking for things to complain about
loafer123 said:
I also think variable speed limits work.
I'm not sure how many times I have to post this in this thread but we can all see where variable speed limits can work at the M5 M6 junction at busy times and I dont think anyones arguing about thatHowever plenty of other posters in plenty of other places have seen what appear to be random variable limits for no apparent reason, which is the discussion prompted by the opening post
saaby93 said:
loafer123 said:
I also think variable speed limits work.
I'm not sure how many times I have to post this in this thread but we can all see where variable speed limits can work at the M5 M6 junction at busy times and I dont think anyones arguing about thatHowever plenty of other posters in plenty of other places have seen what appear to be random variable limits for no apparent reason, which is the discussion prompted by the opening post
saaby93 said:
Kenny Powers said:
No. Nothing is perfect. I just find it genuinely hilarious that some people appear to be moaning that they're not getting stuck in traffic. Even funnier is that they don't realise that's what they're doing
Maybe have a look again at what's really been saidTX.
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