RE: Ford Mustang GT: PH Fleet

RE: Ford Mustang GT: PH Fleet

Author
Discussion

Quinny

15,814 posts

267 months

Friday 31st March 2017
quotequote all
MikeT66 said:
Lovely car. And Shelsley Walsh, I assume? I think I recognise the hedge and wooden building!
Well spotted....March breakfast clubsmile

Just had stripes and a black roof done







croyde

22,963 posts

231 months

Friday 31st March 2017
quotequote all
Mine is standard and plenty fast enough. A now rare Competition Orange GT with over 10k miles in 14 months of ownership.

Still turns heads and plenty of people love coming over to chat when parked up.

I got in at the beginning so paid £34k with shaker, sat nav and parking sensors as options.

A bargain especially as the price has been increased 4 times by Ford.

As to the poster waiting for typical Ford depreciation. It might be a while.

I know a few who have sold at no loss after a year of ownership.

Gibbo205

3,554 posts

208 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
quotequote all
nicfaz said:
Vid please PH! It would be nice to get a driveby with a good quality microphone that can capture the bass - let's hear the V8 roar!
Here is a video of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-EdA7rnvwE

smile

Too the person who asked about the power I making, I have dyno'd each upgrade and stuck with the same dyno:

Stock car on Vpower with catback: 410-415HP / 360lb/ft
SCT RON 97 map on Vpower with catback: 435HP / 410lb/ft
JDM RON 97 map on Vpower with catback: 440HP / 405lb/ft
PMAS CAI with custom LUND RON 99 map on Vpower with catback: 472HP / 420lb/ft

This was when the car got proper quick, here is some videos from a fellow member who did the above and ran my tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20G5zDQTud0&t=...

60-120mph in 9s !


I then added GT 350 intake manifold, GT 350 TB and GT 350 CAI for a stock OEM quality look and to give the car more legs up top as stock car peaks power at 6400rpm and then power fall of a cliff, for example by 7000rpm the car is around 400HP and keeps falling.

The above setup made 516HP though the dyno was spiking due to top speed limiter, looking at just before spike which was before new peak power of 7500rpm car was around 505HP, but at the same time one can assume if it could rev out on dyno it would of being around 515HP anyway.

I later removed the GT 350 TB as it drives not as nice as stock TB, I re-dyno'd and lost around 8-10HP so car is pretty much on the nose at 500HP, not bad for bolt-ons.

The car is seriously quick, I was at an aerodrome today so got to test her out, acceleration to 160mph is blindingly quick, I was shocked how hard 5th gear pulls you can literally floor it in 5th at 70mph and the car just pulls very hard and quickly to 160mph, ran out of space to keep my foot in it but am going to take the car to TerminalVelocity in July and September for some 1 mile runs, hoping for around 165-175mph.

croyde

22,963 posts

231 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
quotequote all
Mine biggrin


Speary8

74 posts

86 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Today I test drove a mustang GT. great sounding engine. The thing I don't understand is why it bit my ass big time. On a slow 20mph right hander in 2nd gear I applied some acceleration just after the apex and it spat me sideways across the road into the kerb on the other side. Good job there was a kerb otherwise we would have been in a ditch. I asked the sales guy if the esc was working. He said yes but there was absoloutly no intervention from the system. I must add that the acceleration was gentle as the bend opened up. I was really shocked at the severity of how it slid across the road. The sales guy said it could be because the tyres were cold. This is a road car for gods sake. I want round the same bend with Reg local in his BMW 135 the other week and he nailed it early in the bend and it just gripped more and catapulted us out of the bend. I have lots of experience at a good level and have never experienced anything like this, even on a track. Is this normal for a mustang

bridgdav

4,805 posts

249 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
No... not in my 2 years of owning one...
Sideways.. YES
Tail end out.. YES

But only when I want to. Treat in with respect at all times, putting your foot hard down only when the wheels are straight.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Speary8 said:
Today I test drove a mustang GT. great sounding engine. The thing I don't understand is why it bit my ass big time. On a slow 20mph right hander in 2nd gear I applied some acceleration just after the apex and it spat me sideways across the road into the kerb on the other side. Good job there was a kerb otherwise we would have been in a ditch. I asked the sales guy if the esc was working. He said yes but there was absoloutly no intervention from the system. I must add that the acceleration was gentle as the bend opened up. I was really shocked at the severity of how it slid across the road. The sales guy said it could be because the tyres were cold. This is a road car for gods sake. I want round the same bend with Reg local in his BMW 135 the other week and he nailed it early in the bend and it just gripped more and catapulted us out of the bend. I have lots of experience at a good level and have never experienced anything like this, even on a track. Is this normal for a mustang
You're not playing the car-review game. Bad handling = sideways hero = good.

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Speary8 said:
Today I test drove a mustang GT. great sounding engine. The thing I don't understand is why it bit my ass big time. On a slow 20mph right hander in 2nd gear I applied some acceleration just after the apex and it spat me sideways across the road into the kerb on the other side. Good job there was a kerb otherwise we would have been in a ditch. I asked the sales guy if the esc was working. He said yes but there was absoloutly no intervention from the system. I must add that the acceleration was gentle as the bend opened up. I was really shocked at the severity of how it slid across the road. The sales guy said it could be because the tyres were cold. This is a road car for gods sake. I want round the same bend with Reg local in his BMW 135 the other week and he nailed it early in the bend and it just gripped more and catapulted us out of the bend. I have lots of experience at a good level and have never experienced anything like this, even on a track. Is this normal for a mustang
The factory pzero's have no traction below 4c. Mine has a warning label on the door jam.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Speary8 said:
Today I test drove a mustang GT. great sounding engine. The thing I don't understand is why it bit my ass big time. On a slow 20mph right hander in 2nd gear I applied some acceleration just after the apex and it spat me sideways across the road into the kerb on the other side. Good job there was a kerb otherwise we would have been in a ditch. I asked the sales guy if the esc was working. He said yes but there was absoloutly no intervention from the system. I must add that the acceleration was gentle as the bend opened up. I was really shocked at the severity of how it slid across the road. The sales guy said it could be because the tyres were cold. This is a road car for gods sake. I want round the same bend with Reg local in his BMW 135 the other week and he nailed it early in the bend and it just gripped more and catapulted us out of the bend. I have lots of experience at a good level and have never experienced anything like this, even on a track. Is this normal for a mustang
Welcome to the world of the drivers car that needs a driver !!! ESP/ABS nanny = boredom ....

I

Speary8

74 posts

86 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Not sure which tyres it had but the temperature was around 12 dog and the surface was damp. In the brochure it states that it has advanced esp which will counteract under or oversteer. I got none of that not that I drive my car so the aids kick in, I pride myself in driving to the point just before they kick in. The worrying thing for me is that we were at about 20mph coming out of a tightish bend up hill (weight towards the rear wheels) moderate throttle application to balance the car and then BOOM it was gone. In the past I have spun a few cars on track but I always knew when it was going to let go. Not in the case of Mustang Sally though
Is it possible that it was in Track mode. Not sure if the system resets to normal when ignition is turned off.
Also after the event the sales chap said he had found it had a tendency to stick its tail out pulling out of junctions

djc206

12,357 posts

126 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
In the damp and relative cold the stock pirellis are atrocious, I'd imagine it was largely that. It does stick its tail out pulling out of junctions but only when you try in the dry.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
The standard tyres are terrible in those conditions but the car would've been in normal driving mode i.e. all aids on unless one of you changed it on that journey.

The nannies will kick in but very gently and can be overwhelmed with over-enthusiastic inputs.

A number of owners have crashed and all have said the same thing you have. Fact is you gave it too much throttle with too much lock applied.

This isn't a car that's going to save you if you try and show it who's boss.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
I don't drive mine very hard at all, but it's common sense not to go wot with all that torque on a bend unless you're the Stig.

croyde

22,963 posts

231 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
quotequote all
Taking a risk here but not a single surprising sideways situation in 11,000 odd miles and I do drive like a tt biggrin

Always took it easy for the first few miles when I had the PZeros as they were rubbish until properly warmed up and always a bit edgy in the wet.

I now have Michelin MPSS on the rears and they allow me to traffic light drag race and corner in the wet and are nowhere near as dodgy in the cold first thing.

Can still do donuts when I want to but then I'm 55 and shouldn't be so childish.

You do have to treat the accelerator pedal like a throttle grip on a litre plus motorbike and have a lot of respect. Most of the time I appear to be only flexing my big toe for more power and certainly not stamping on the pedal like I can get away with in my old e36 2.5.

Was the test drive car an auto?

I'm sure more of these have crashed as getting all the power is too easy whilst you have to work at the manual.

Speary8

74 posts

86 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
quotequote all
Car was a manual. I was only applying gentle throttle to gradually increase speed as the bend opened up. Checked the bend today in my car but noticed that the shell grip surfce was worn. It has been suggested that when shellgrip is worn it is less grippy than normal tarmac