RE: Porsche Panamera: PH Buying Guide

RE: Porsche Panamera: PH Buying Guide

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Mosdef

1,741 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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dvs_dave said:
spreadsheet monkey said:
sjabrown said:
I wonder if these will get much cheaper. Always thought they look much better in the flesh than they do in photos.
Yes they will definitely get cheaper, just like the Cayenne did. They'll hold their value better than a big-engined A8 or 7-series, but I expect the early six cylinder models will drop below £10k, given another 8-10 years.
The D4 Audi S8 or W221 Merc S63 offer better looks, luxury and performance for less money.
But neither drives anywhere near as well and will lose composure long before the Panamera. I wanted to like both of them but couldn't. The S Class is very luxurious but not great to drive even in AMG form. The D4 S8 is an absolute barge, albeit a quick one with excellent traction.

RCNewell

5 posts

110 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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The Porsche Panamera is a unique car there is nothing like it. It has been called a swiss army knife a nuclear submarine. The best thing about the car is driving it, you don't want to end your journey. Open your mind and eyes and make your own decisions.

Edited by RCNewell on Monday 3rd April 22:41

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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novus said:
Well that's a first.

Finance company noticed car is realising strong values and thinks customer is going to pay them too much money

Contacts customer and passes on saving to them mid term

Sounds legit
Indeed

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I've driven a 4s and I just thing it's a big fast car, nothing overly special.

British Beef

2,222 posts

166 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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My testicles in a rusty vice before I even consider purchasing one of these.

New or second hand there are faster, better looking and more practical cars for the money.

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Aeroresh said:
jakesmith said:
Stupid car for stupid people
Theres a health dose of irony in that statement!
yes

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I've had my turbo for about six months. It replaced an E63 AMG Bi-Turbo and is not quite as much of an animal, but is far more compliant and has much better traction off the line in less than perfect conditions. I've been really happy with it and would struggle to replace it for the money (it's a 2010 so worth circa £40k) with anything else I'd rather drive. Massively capable and very comfortable and refined. It's not even bad on fuel. Looks obviously divide opinion, but as others have said, they look better in the metal and mine seems to get a lot of positive attention in black.

Mosdef

1,741 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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I had much the same route as slippery above.

The Panamera is so much more composed than any of the the E63s, M5s etc and given the base car is already a very high quality product (rather than a mini cab spec E220 or 520d) the refinement, interior and comfort are on another level. Natural competitors are primarily the QP and the Rapide rather than the more barge like S Class/7 series/S8 alternatives, none of which offered any engagement in my experience,

On the same note, I wouldn't have any of the previous generation six cyclinder petrol, diesel or hybrid cars, I think they miss the point of having a more driver focussed, large car. Some might also find the turbo a bit too refined compared to the GTS.

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Another 10 years these have potential to be a very cheap Porsche i think, as exspencive to run and not really much of a weekend toy. Maybe another 928 in the making which is still far cheaper than a 911.

PGM

2,168 posts

250 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
I'm not surprised.

Well, what's the point of them then? I like the Maserati but there's better cars out there, why not buy one of them? Vanity 4x4 that the Evoque is, more expensive than other cars in the range for nothing extra, that I can't get my head around. Like anything, it's horses for courses and personal preference not stupidity or otherwise.

Point was, as others have said, irony in your statement is lost on you.

GT03ROB

13,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.

RCNewell

5 posts

110 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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The Panamera outsells all the other Porsche models now. On looks they look better then many Mercedes and Bentley models and they don't look like a box on wheels.

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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RCNewell said:
The Panamera outsells all the other Porsche models now.
Interesting stat. Is that based on sales figures for the UK or globally?

I always assumed the Cayenne and Macan were the biggest sellers for Porsche these days.

culpz

4,884 posts

113 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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I never understood the comments about the apparent ugly looks. I really like the styling of these and i'm in no way a massive Porsche aficionado. Maybe that's the problem?

Obviously, it's all subjective regardless, but i've always liked how they look. I will say that the new version's styling is even better and appears to be better-received.

RCNewell

5 posts

110 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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The Panamera outsells other Porsche models in the US and China. The Panamera range is very different the Hybrid is totally different car to drive compared to the GTS. The last GTS to be produced was the facelift model in July 2013 to 2016. It looks like this will be the last naturally aspirated Panamera 4.8 ltr 440BHP 0-60 about 4 seconds corners like a go cart, 4 wheeldrive, put it in Sports Plus or Sport and it accelerates like a jet adjustable air suspension ceramic brakes and in the right spec looks great. If you don't go mad on the accelerator 25 mpg. What's not to like? I have driven 2012 turbo and did not like it very much. Have not driven any of the new 2017 Panamera's but they are all turbo charged.Note . The old 928 Porsche have been cheap but they have doubled in price in the last 18 months.
928 GTS on sale in London £94,995

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

and there are others at 40k 50k.

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jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
def serious

GT03ROB

13,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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jakesmith said:
GT03ROB said:
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
def serious
Ok I'm gonna bite, what makes them stupid & for the stupid

TwigtheWonderkid

43,449 posts

151 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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British Beef said:
My testicles in a rusty vice before I even consider purchasing one of these.

New or second hand there are faster, better looking and more practical cars for the money.
Not driven one, but been a passenger. Hugely impressive piece of kit, feels like it was hewn out of granite. Loved it.

POORCARDEALER

8,526 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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GTS is the pick IMO

The turbo is a great car too

They are surprisingly expensive still even for an early car

RCNewell

5 posts

110 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Porsche are very good at not over producing models to help keep the price of the second hand cars high.