RE: Porsche Panamera: PH Buying Guide

RE: Porsche Panamera: PH Buying Guide

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slippery

14,093 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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GT03ROB said:
jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
I've got an Evoque and a Panamera though, so now I'm really stupid. hehe

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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slippery said:
GT03ROB said:
jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
I've got an Evoque and a Panamera though, so now I'm really stupid. hehe
:Hehe:

GT03ROB

13,263 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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slippery said:
GT03ROB said:
jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
I've got an Evoque and a Panamera though, so now I'm really stupid. hehe
I must be really stupid too.... as I still don't get why a Panamera is stupid, but an Evoque isn't.

I actually quite like both! But think the Evoque is just too small for the money.

slippery

14,093 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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GT03ROB said:
slippery said:
GT03ROB said:
jakesmith said:
PGM said:
Could say the same about Maserati or Evoque?
No no I don't agree with that, not at all.
Anybody who drives an Evoque cannot be serious describing a Panamera as stupid for the stupid.
I've got an Evoque and a Panamera though, so now I'm really stupid. hehe
I must be really stupid too.... as I still don't get why a Panamera is stupid, but an Evoque isn't.

I actually quite like both! But think the Evoque is just too small for the money.
You're right. My Mrs downsized from an L405 FFRR and still really likes it, but the boot can be annoyingly small. Great to park though and surprisingly refined on the motorway. Much better than I expected it to be. Anyway, back to the Panamera! biggrin

BFleming

3,606 posts

143 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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RCNewell said:
Porsche are very good at not over producing models to help keep the price of the second hand cars high.
Supply & demand all the same. There's a big market for the Macan & Cayenne, so Porsche churn them out, more so than any other Porsche model in history. I guess they don't 'overproduce' in the 1970's BL sense as there's a buyer for every car that rolls off the line.
Cayanne's are dirt cheap on the second hand market. Horses for courses though, as most SUV's depreciate to the same extent.

1974foggy

676 posts

144 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Sorry I cant get past the looks, much rather an m5/Alpina for the money.
Couple that to Porsche parts and labour (Reliability?) further down the line as well.
If it looked like the mission E concept it would be a different story!

RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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What a shame a great concept got hit so hard with the fugly stick...

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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My father in law owned a 3.0 diesel for 1 week and sold it back to the garage at a substantial loss. I don't think he'll buy another Porsche

GT03ROB

13,263 posts

221 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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DUMBO100 said:
My father in law owned a 3.0 diesel for 1 week and sold it back to the garage at a substantial loss. I don't think he'll buy another Porsche
Why??

BFleming

3,606 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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GT03ROB said:
DUMBO100 said:
My father in law owned a 3.0 diesel for 1 week and sold it back to the garage at a substantial loss. I don't think he'll buy another Porsche
Why??
This wasn't his, was it?

Adz The Rat

14,086 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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I drove a Gen 2 Turbo from Southam to Preston yesterday. What a car!

So comfortable and immensely capable, just effortless.

jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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DUMBO100 said:
My father in law owned a 3.0 diesel for 1 week and sold it back to the garage at a substantial loss. I don't think he'll buy another Porsche
Lesson is don't buy a diesel!

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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slippery said:
You're right. My Mrs downsized from an L405 FFRR and still really likes it, but the boot can be annoyingly small. Great to park though and surprisingly refined on the motorway. Much better than I expected it to be. Anyway, back to the Panamera! biggrin
For me the Panamera is a step too far for the brand. I know people will say the same about the Evoque but Range Rover is a luxury 4x4 manufacturer and the Evoque is a small luxury 4x4. The boot space sucks though. I appreciate that this is highly subjective though. For some people water cooled Porsches and Boxsters aren't 'proper' Porsches. But the Panamera is not a good looking car so doesn't have the brand essence or design flair going for it and those detract from it in my view. Ironically everything I have said applies to the Cayenne too but I don't mind them.

BFleming

3,606 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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jakesmith said:
For some people water cooled Porsches and Boxsters aren't 'proper' Porsches.
The rising prices of 993's would back up that claim. But as everything from Porsche has been watercooled since 1998, and the 911/912/959 was literally the only aircooled Porsche since the demise of the 914/916 in 1976, do the purists look with scorn upon everything that Porsche now produce?

GT03ROB

13,263 posts

221 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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BFleming said:
do the purists look with scorn upon everything that Porsche now produce?
Some of them do!

Brands have to evolve or die. Porsche has evolved. I personally think there is more a place in the brand line up for a Panamera type car than there is for a Macan or Cayenne. There are only so many variations on 2 door sports cars you can make. However I guess the same could be said about 4x4s, yet Land Rover seem to be up to 6 or 7 now!

slippery

14,093 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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jakesmith said:
slippery said:
You're right. My Mrs downsized from an L405 FFRR and still really likes it, but the boot can be annoyingly small. Great to park though and surprisingly refined on the motorway. Much better than I expected it to be. Anyway, back to the Panamera! biggrin
For me the Panamera is a step too far for the brand. I know people will say the same about the Evoque but Range Rover is a luxury 4x4 manufacturer and the Evoque is a small luxury 4x4. The boot space sucks though. I appreciate that this is highly subjective though. For some people water cooled Porsches and Boxsters aren't 'proper' Porsches. But the Panamera is not a good looking car so doesn't have the brand essence or design flair going for it and those detract from it in my view. Ironically everything I have said applies to the Cayenne too but I don't mind them.
Many years ago, I was fortunate enough a 930 turbo and a 928 S4 at the same time.Many couldn't understand why I would usually choose to drive the 928, but when I just wanted to get somewhere as opposed to going for a drive for the sake of going for a drive, I just preferred it. The Panamera turbo feels nothing like the four door 911 that many people imagine it to be, but it feels every inch a Porsche and the closest thing I could find to a spiritual successor to the 928, of which it shares many strengths. I think they are colour and wheel design sensitive, but in black, with black window surrounds and my favourite wheels, I'm not unhappy with how mine looks.


Edited by slippery on Saturday 8th April 13:07

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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That looks great.

slippery

14,093 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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gizlaroc said:
That looks great.
Thanks! smile

PGNSagaris

2,934 posts

166 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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slippery said:


Edited by slippery on Saturday 8th April 13:07
Looks brilliant. Love the Panamera

ChrisRS6

736 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I ran a fully loaded Panny Turbo for a year

Awesome car...build from granite, build quality impeccable , quick and handles well.

Well worth a look.