RE: Audi SQ7: UK Review
Discussion
Martin_Hx said:
PetrolAholic said:
Is it bad to say I have one on order?
With that username, your damn right it is 
Ok its a decent SUV but wow that's some list price!
First car: Mk4 Golf GTI 1.8T Anniversary, Second car: Audi RS4 B7, Third car: Audi RS6, Fourth (and not for very long) Gallardo. Decided to have a family Fifth: Merc E350D Estate (ugh) Sixth Audi Q7 4.2 TDI and the seventh will be Audi SQ7. So it's got (some) performance but the family practicalities as well.
Know someone with a Q7. With big sidesteps on, it has a decent road presence, and plenty of people give it a second glance. Drives well, and you sit nice and high and lord it over commoners in traffic jams. But you can never quite get away from the "cannot afford a proper Range Rover" perception. Would never spend 96k on one (as per the article). You would end up with pretty bad Range Rover regret.
Yipper said:
But you can never quite get away from the "cannot afford a proper Range Rover" perception. Would never spend 96k on one (as per the article). You would end up with pretty bad Range Rover regret.
All down to personal taste, really. I agree with you in that I would prefer to have an RRS (I'll happily take the 3.0V6d - plenty quick enough), but for some the RR image might not be right. I know it's big and ll that, but a Q7 is still more subtle than an RR/RRS.Could also be a bit of brand loyalty - people tend to like what they like and having a few more £'s in the bank and an existing relationship with Audi makes for a logical choice.
Also, I'm not going to lie - I really debated with myself long and hard when I had my RRS order in, knowing how b
ks the quality of my previous LR product had been and how bad the local dealer was as well...whereas I have had nothing but positive experience of Audi ownership and purchasing. Would I have considered a Q7? I did briefly, but I was more attracted to other vehicles in the Audi line, so didn't dwell.I just love the fact that vehicles of all shapes and sizes and prices are still being made and sold. I for one, intend to embrace this as long as possible as the writing really is on the wall...
je777 said:
wst said:
je777 said:
'Big = impressive' is the only 'thought' going on with those who buy these cars. High time there was a size and weight maximum on cars.
There is. 3.5t all-up weight. Achieve it how you please. Setting exterior dimensions, etc, means you'd get stupid situations where people would complain that their "legal" car doesn't fit down narrow roads - kinda like how people think that speed limits are a target and then proceed to throw their car off a hairpin at 40mph because "it was signposted at 40!".The 3.5t limit isn't really a limit on cars, though.
Maybe:
seats up to 5 people - max. 1.9 tonnes.
seats up to 7 people - max. 2.1 tonnes.
If anything, I'd say those weights are too generous by about 100kg.
Why make a suggestion of max weights then say you think the max weights that you have just given are too heavy by 100KG? All in the same post?
PhantomPH said:
Yipper said:
But you can never quite get away from the "cannot afford a proper Range Rover" perception. Would never spend 96k on one (as per the article). You would end up with pretty bad Range Rover regret.
All down to personal taste, really. I agree with you in that I would prefer to have an RRS (I'll happily take the 3.0V6d - plenty quick enough), but for some the RR image might not be right. I know it's big and ll that, but a Q7 is still more subtle than an RR/RRS.Could also be a bit of brand loyalty - people tend to like what they like and having a few more £'s in the bank and an existing relationship with Audi makes for a logical choice.
Also, I'm not going to lie - I really debated with myself long and hard when I had my RRS order in, knowing how b
ks the quality of my previous LR product had been and how bad the local dealer was as well...whereas I have had nothing but positive experience of Audi ownership and purchasing. Would I have considered a Q7? I did briefly, but I was more attracted to other vehicles in the Audi line, so didn't dwell.I just love the fact that vehicles of all shapes and sizes and prices are still being made and sold. I for one, intend to embrace this as long as possible as the writing really is on the wall...
Turned down a FFRR/RRS twice now in favour of a Q7. Each to their own but down here it tends to be people buying the RR for its image than its abilities as a vehicle.
PhantomPH said:
philmots said:
numtumfutunch said:
philmots said:
jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some,
I'd love to know in what real world situation this SQ7 will be faster than an RS6.I appreciate it will be very quick, but in what situation would it put an RS6 in its place?
PhilboSE said:
Can't see the point of a 7 seater 4WD car, or can't see the point of a faster version of such?
Can't see the point of that kind of speed in that kind of car for that kind of money.You could buy a more than adequate 7 seater and have more than enough for a decent weekend/track car.
philmots said:
He was, and I agree with him up to the point of saying it's "faster in some" that's what I was curious about.
Playing devil's advocate here; which one would cross a damp field towing a horsebox first?I'm a fan of a fast estate and an SUV; have had both and would have either again. I'm not quite sure it's a case of 'this one is better in all situations', than more of which suits the buyer at the time. Whilst I don't personally like this particular Q7, clearly many people do, and they have the luxury of having that choice.
I'm actually really hoping the innovations within this engine trickle down to more affordable cars; I'd be surprised if the RS3/4/6 doesn't feature some of the tech in the next generation.
99dndd said:
PhilboSE said:
Can't see the point of a 7 seater 4WD car, or can't see the point of a faster version of such?
Can't see the point of that kind of speed in that kind of car for that kind of money.You could buy a more than adequate 7 seater and have more than enough for a decent weekend/track car.
neil1jnr said:
99dndd said:
PhilboSE said:
Can't see the point of a 7 seater 4WD car, or can't see the point of a faster version of such?
Can't see the point of that kind of speed in that kind of car for that kind of money.You could buy a more than adequate 7 seater and have more than enough for a decent weekend/track car.
PhilboSE said:
PhantomPH said:
This car 'starts' at £72k, remember. You don't have to drop £25k on options. Not even close. The gap to the SVR is bigger in reality - especially once you start considering the fact the Audis like this will be subject to 'offers' sooner rather than later due to (lack of) demand.
There's one in my local dealer with a black pack on and it's a beast of a car. Too big for me, for sure (Q5 is perhaps the biggest you'd really want in prefer to not just add awkwardness to your life), but the interior was lovely and the black pack removed a lot of the shiner details that could add to the busy nature of a chromed model.
My SQ7 is similarly specced to the review model and I paid £75k for it, factory order. It is very hard to get a discount on a RR and with a few options an SVR is £115k+. That is one heck of a gap. The engine in the SQ7 makes the V8 diesel in the RR look (and feel) positively primordial, and gets economy that an SVR RR can only dream of (I get 30mpg on my typical urban/B-road driving and 38mpg on motorway runs).There's one in my local dealer with a black pack on and it's a beast of a car. Too big for me, for sure (Q5 is perhaps the biggest you'd really want in prefer to not just add awkwardness to your life), but the interior was lovely and the black pack removed a lot of the shiner details that could add to the busy nature of a chromed model.
There's a lot of prejudice and ignorance displayed in any SUV thread, we've come to expect that from the small minded people, but it's a shame to see some of it from Dan Trent, who one assumes aspires to become a motoring journalist when he grows up.
I'd have one of these in a heartbeat if I had the money, would be even more interested if this lump was used to make an RSQ5
Different strokes for different folks but I love SUVs, always have and this one really does float my boat, just a shame I can't afford one lol
K50 DEL said:
PhilboSE said:
I get 30mpg on my typical urban/B-road driving and 38mpg on motorway runs)
If that fuel economy is genuine then that's nothing short of amazing, I currently run a 2.0 X1 and over the last 13k I've averaged 38.1mpgI'd have one of these in a heartbeat if I had the money, would be even more interested if this lump was used to make an RSQ5
Different strokes for different folks but I love SUVs, always have and this one really does float my boat, just a shame I can't afford one lol
Having had first hand experience of one of these, I can safely say that they are immense. The rate it piles on speed is laughable. The economy was equally impressive too at 30mpg!
There is no doubt in my mind that this is the best sub 100k tow vehicle come family hack on sale right now.
There is no doubt in my mind that this is the best sub 100k tow vehicle come family hack on sale right now.
The Vambo said:
CS Garth said:
Another vulgar chav chariot for those who aspire to be nouveau riche and thus wish to adorn themselves with the trinkets of the tasteless on tick
The use of the word vulgar on PH is a very good target indicator of a pompous tt.
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