RE: PH goes drag racing
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TheMighty said:
If only it was that easy we'd all be bracket racing electric cars. Many of the variables that affect internal combustion engine cars similarly affect EVs with other things such as battery heater system draw or battery operating temperatures creating further issues which IC cars don't have to deal with.
Electric will still have a big advantage, temp won't really affect the power at all, as there will be a speed controller regulating the amp draw. So as long as the battery is in good health and above 'x' voltage, the power delivery will be highly consistent and predictable.Track temp probably plays a small part too unless you are wheel spinning off the line each time. Which only leaves wind direction and strength, which are things you can't really measure on the fly, nor do anything about anyhow. And the speeds a Leaf is likely to be travelling at on the 1320, probably a non issue anyhow.
trickywoo said:
Why don't you open your mind and read my post? I have no problem with the skill involved in drag racing which is significant. What I do have a problem with, and as I clearly said, is doing it in a low powered electric car where you just mash your foot to the floor and leave it there, No balancing revs, no changing gear no worry about wheel spin when you hook third at 150 mph. Just seems pointless doing it in a leaf.
Could you enter an electric bicycle. I'd be dead consistent on one of those even multiple pints down.
darrenw said:
I help run the VWDRC, if any one is at Santa Pod this weekend for the Festival of Power, or Big Bang next weekend, you're more than welcome to have a wander around our pits. We're grassroots level motorsport but we have some very quick cars out over the weekend!
Bracket racing is a lot of fun, almost as much fun as bracket drinking when it rains!
Let's hope we don't have too much of the latter eh! .....mini now on route 😁Bracket racing is a lot of fun, almost as much fun as bracket drinking when it rains!
37chevy said:
trickywoo said:
Why don't you open your mind and read my post? I have no problem with the skill involved in drag racing which is significant. What I do have a problem with, and as I clearly said, is doing it in a low powered electric car where you just mash your foot to the floor and leave it there, No balancing revs, no changing gear no worry about wheel spin when you hook third at 150 mph. Just seems pointless doing it in a leaf.
Could you enter an electric bicycle. I'd be dead consistent on one of those even multiple pints down.
For someone with the right know-how, it would be fairly straightforward to program an electric car to automatically deliver perfectly consistent times, again and again, with a control algorithm. If outlawed, it would be easy again to program in a bit randomness, the right amount to still win.
Personally I love drag racing but struggle to get excited about the consistency of (slow) times.
Personally I love drag racing but struggle to get excited about the consistency of (slow) times.
coppice said:
Crikey some folk on this thread doth protest too much about leccy cars. Do they think that if they miss an opportunity to exercise their inner knuckle-dragger by ridiculing anything without a conventional ic engine their masculinity will be compromised ?
I shouldn't bother with this thread anymore but nobody is ridiculing electric cars. The use of low powered electric cars in 'regularity' drag racing is being ridiculed because of the lack of skill required.
I really can't see how something coming down to thousandths of seconds can be much fun anyway. Somebody may be 'winning' then get a gust of wind on a run which spoils their time and there would be nothing they could do about it.
Each to their own but I can't see the point in running a slow electric vehicle in an event like this.
37chevy said:
trickywoo said:
Why don't you open your mind and read my post? I have no problem with the skill involved in drag racing which is significant. What I do have a problem with, and as I clearly said, is doing it in a low powered electric car where you just mash your foot to the floor and leave it there, No balancing revs, no changing gear no worry about wheel spin when you hook third at 150 mph. Just seems pointless doing it in a leaf.
Could you enter an electric bicycle. I'd be dead consistent on one of those even multiple pints down.
Everyone has to deal with the wind, tyre temp, grip, what they had for breakfast etc etc etc and so that it equal for everyone. However, a low powered electric car will be completely consistent in its production of result - linear power delivery and 0 rpm start. So given everyone has to deal with all the things you've mentioned the Leaf driver doesn't have to deal with launch control, wheelspin, missed gears or even different fuel levels. Therefore the Leaf has a natural competitive advantage.
That's simple and plain to see.
Addymk2 said:
Is this rebellious maniac of a Leaf burner on this site or known to anyone on here?
It would be interesting to get there take on it. There tactics etc.
Where are you Leaf man? Or woman? Before this all gets out of hand
Yes known to a few of us and races in the same class as me... Chris aka the mighty who has posted a few times on this thread is super pro et champion (top level of bracket racing in the U.K.) I race my mini in sportsman et. The guy in the leaf is pitted next to me and racing in the same class. it's his first time racing proper this weekend so should be interesting to see how it goes!!!It would be interesting to get there take on it. There tactics etc.
Where are you Leaf man? Or woman? Before this all gets out of hand
37chevy said:
Addymk2 said:
Is this rebellious maniac of a Leaf burner on this site or known to anyone on here?
It would be interesting to get there take on it. There tactics etc.
Where are you Leaf man? Or woman? Before this all gets out of hand
Yes known to a few of us and races in the same class as me... Chris aka the mighty who has posted a few times on this thread is super pro et champion (top level of bracket racing in the U.K.) I race my mini in sportsman et. The guy in the leaf is pitted next to me and racing in the same class. it's his first time racing proper this weekend so should be interesting to see how it goes!!!It would be interesting to get there take on it. There tactics etc.
Where are you Leaf man? Or woman? Before this all gets out of hand
Well just to prove this isn't as easy as it looks, we just ran Q3 and all but 1 car went to quick. Yesterday we ran cool dull conditions with a head wind. Today warm sunny with a side wind. result for my little mini...15.99 yesterday, 15.71 today...amazing what the difference in conditions can make on even a small car.....and yes the leaf broke out too
37chevy said:
If only it were that simple ?? It's not all about mashing the throttle. Tyre temps, battery temperature and life, wind, track temp, how far into stage you are and driver ability all come into it even for a low powered car.
Is there enough power to actually wheelspin on a Leaf? If not then what effect do changing tyre temperatures have?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff