Is 150,000 miles a lot for a car?
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Hi All,
My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
I remember when I first passed my test hearing advice to look for cars under 100k as they are knackered/high risk of problems, after that number of miles. That was in the days of Ford Cortinas!
However, you only have to sit in minicabs and see how many miles their reasonably modern cars have and are still going strong. Bear in mind that although interior and engine/transmission on your car are probably working fine, the suspension is probably tired at 100k (even if they are all motorway miles)
However, you only have to sit in minicabs and see how many miles their reasonably modern cars have and are still going strong. Bear in mind that although interior and engine/transmission on your car are probably working fine, the suspension is probably tired at 100k (even if they are all motorway miles)
Customer of mine has a 2007 320d. Was absolutely fine to 165k. Then the DMF failed, and shortly after that the swirl flaps were sucked into the engine, throwing another huge bill.
I personally would think it's coming to the end of it's economic life, although you could run it for many thousands of miles more if you are willing to spend some money on it. I would certainly remove the swirl flaps.
Cheers
I personally would think it's coming to the end of it's economic life, although you could run it for many thousands of miles more if you are willing to spend some money on it. I would certainly remove the swirl flaps.
Cheers
Z064life said:
Hi All,
My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
Read the first half of your own post again and you'll work out the simple conclusion My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
raspy said:
I remember when I first passed my test hearing advice to look for cars under 100k as they are knackered/high risk of problems, after that number of miles. That was in the days of Ford Cortinas!
However, you only have to sit in minicabs and see how many miles their reasonably modern cars have and are still going strong. Bear in mind that although interior and engine/transmission on your car are probably working fine, the suspension is probably tired at 100k (even if they are all motorway miles)
In the days of Cortinas that was true. Engines of that vintage we're not that reliable in the first place, and rust was normal on a car over a few years old. My first car was an 8 year old fiat with 70k on the clock and it was mostly rust and had suffered multiple breakdowns.However, you only have to sit in minicabs and see how many miles their reasonably modern cars have and are still going strong. Bear in mind that although interior and engine/transmission on your car are probably working fine, the suspension is probably tired at 100k (even if they are all motorway miles)
Currently my daily driver a 13 year old fiesta with 115k on the clock. It has no rust and everything just works. It looks and feels like it would go another 100k.
My MK1 MX5 is 20 years old and has recently hit 170,000 miles and still going strong.
As somebody has already said, age is the killer - mostly because of rust.
My '05 E46 M3 has 125,000 miles and drives like new. It has been very well looked after by its previous owners. It covered 75,000 in its first four years - presumably on the motorway. Easy miles.
As somebody has already said, age is the killer - mostly because of rust.
My '05 E46 M3 has 125,000 miles and drives like new. It has been very well looked after by its previous owners. It covered 75,000 in its first four years - presumably on the motorway. Easy miles.
My 2008 320d is on 201k km / 125k miles and still feels tight, no squeaks, bangs or rattles.
The gearbox is notchy and recalcitrant from cold, however, and an oil change hasn't helped.
Other than that it's wearing its miles very well indeed, as do most E90s if the mileage on ones you see for sale on mobile.de is anything to go by.
Clutch and DMF were changed by the previous owner at 150k so I dodged a hefty bill there.
It has the M47. Do these engines also suffer from swirl-flaps breaking, or is that just the N47? Can you recommend a 'how-to' guide for their removal if they are problematic? I'm pretty keen to take it to 300k km if viable to do so.
The gearbox is notchy and recalcitrant from cold, however, and an oil change hasn't helped.
Other than that it's wearing its miles very well indeed, as do most E90s if the mileage on ones you see for sale on mobile.de is anything to go by.
Clutch and DMF were changed by the previous owner at 150k so I dodged a hefty bill there.
It has the M47. Do these engines also suffer from swirl-flaps breaking, or is that just the N47? Can you recommend a 'how-to' guide for their removal if they are problematic? I'm pretty keen to take it to 300k km if viable to do so.
My last Avensis was over 240K miles when I sold it, with the exception of service parts only all was original, including clutch and DMF! Never used any fluids, as already said 10K service interval likely helped matters. Near impossible to sell though, people seem to have a big hang up on mileage even though it was in great condition, would of easily passed as a 20K miles car.
So no, 150K miles is not much and not yet run in my friend.
Chris.
So no, 150K miles is not much and not yet run in my friend.
Chris.
Z064life said:
Hi All,
My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
Your car is 10 years old, I don't know what the design life is, say 13 years. Realistically, the car is in the last 3rd of its life.My family currently have a BMW 320d, which has done 150,000 miles. 2007 model.
Just wondering, is this too many miles for a car? The car itself runs fine, has no chronic problems (obviously the odd issue with a certain part, but has always been fixed), no rust or visible wear and tear to the interior. When I was younger, I was under the impression that when a car reaches 100,000 miles, it means it needs an imminent change.
What's the consensus?
However, it depends on how the car has been maintained and the sort of miles these 150,000 have been. 1,000 motorway miles a week isn't many operating hours, 150,000 miles around town is a huge amount of operating hours.
Only you can decide when to chop it in. My feeling is that when the annual repair costs over and above servicing and wear a tear are higher than the annual depreciation, it's time to go. If the car can get between services without repair and letting you down, keep running it. If you have to chuck a few hundred quid extra at it when it needs a service, it's fine, but it must keep going. Don't under estimate the depreciation cost of it's replacement.
Would I buy a 150,000 mile car? No, but I'll happily keep running a 150,000 mile car I've put those miles on. The drive train is not likely to be the problem, it's all of the niggly faults age serves up that get on your nerves.
In days gone by a lot of 'average' cars at say 10 years old and 100k would be suffering from terminal rust, smokey engines and such like. Not saying that still doesn't happen with something neglected but 100K really is nothing now if the owner is prepared to keep up with a sensible service regime and general TLC.
Anything major that has failed on my 160K Passat has been electrical with the odd exception of usual wear and tear suspension components. However for a lot of folk replacing a DMF or timing belt on a 9 year old car worth maybe 2K would be enough to have them at the dealers looking at a shiny new PCP job.
Anything major that has failed on my 160K Passat has been electrical with the odd exception of usual wear and tear suspension components. However for a lot of folk replacing a DMF or timing belt on a 9 year old car worth maybe 2K would be enough to have them at the dealers looking at a shiny new PCP job.
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