I love my car, but worth dying for.....?
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brianashley said:
.Go out with a big bag and nick a gas type fire extinguisher .Play with the nozzle a bit and that will project much further and cause havoc. You are also then left with it to throw or hit them.
So you're suggesting to protect yourself in the event of someone breaking into your home you should commit your own crime and steal a fire extinguisher? You realise you can just buy one? 
If you are going the fire extinguisher route, I'd recommend a powder one, IIRC if you inhale too much it can give you the s
ts 
some retards did try to crowbar my elderly mothers door few years back while she was asleep
one thing they did not know was she owned a German Shepard and it was a soft as can be like most now or due to bad breeding
but the real important detail the were not aware of she was looking after my Rottweiler for a few days
the thing about that particulate dog was that it was not quite wired right as it was a accidental breeding between normal one and dad was a ex mod patrol dog and he was one if the largest iv ever seen mine was over sized at 64kg
It was fine if it knew you it but never did quite get the we don't eat strangers that concept not mater how much training and socialization it had it was extremely dangerous in wrong hands but a lovey dog but i had it and kept it safely for its life
lucky for them when the broke door there was still a chain on that need breaking before they could enter
It never barked or warned. it would just open it jaws and launch if had been for the door chain it would have been last ever house they entered they was in such a hurry to leave they left there screw driver and crowbar
one thing they did not know was she owned a German Shepard and it was a soft as can be like most now or due to bad breeding
but the real important detail the were not aware of she was looking after my Rottweiler for a few days
the thing about that particulate dog was that it was not quite wired right as it was a accidental breeding between normal one and dad was a ex mod patrol dog and he was one if the largest iv ever seen mine was over sized at 64kg
It was fine if it knew you it but never did quite get the we don't eat strangers that concept not mater how much training and socialization it had it was extremely dangerous in wrong hands but a lovey dog but i had it and kept it safely for its life
lucky for them when the broke door there was still a chain on that need breaking before they could enter
It never barked or warned. it would just open it jaws and launch if had been for the door chain it would have been last ever house they entered they was in such a hurry to leave they left there screw driver and crowbar
Awful story. I absolutely rate reading things like this. You can't have anything nice these days. It does really put me off as i love my VAG stuff but it appears to be all the fast but inconspicuous 4WD examples that are getting robbed left-right-an-centre. Golf R's, S3's, they all just seem to attract the wrong attention.
For the record, no car, or any material possession for that matter, is worth dying for. I can understand the victim trying to protect his property. I'm sure it's a natural urge and feeling when placed in such a horrible scenario. However, Is it worth leaving a family in trauma? A baby without a dad? A wife without her husband? A mother/father without their son?
I'm honestly not meaning that in a disrespectful way. In the heat of the moment, sometimes it's hard to reign yourself in and really think about what you're doing. What could have just been a loss of property turned out to be a loss of life. It's just not worth it at all.
For the record, no car, or any material possession for that matter, is worth dying for. I can understand the victim trying to protect his property. I'm sure it's a natural urge and feeling when placed in such a horrible scenario. However, Is it worth leaving a family in trauma? A baby without a dad? A wife without her husband? A mother/father without their son?
I'm honestly not meaning that in a disrespectful way. In the heat of the moment, sometimes it's hard to reign yourself in and really think about what you're doing. What could have just been a loss of property turned out to be a loss of life. It's just not worth it at all.
optimate said:
so retards did try to crowbar my elderly mothers door few years back while she was asleep
one thing they did not know was she owned a German and it was a soft as can be like most now or due to bad breeding
but the real important detail the were not aware of she was looking after my Rottweiler for a few days
the thing about that particulate dog was that it was not quite wired right as it was a accidental breeding between normal one and dad was a ex mod patrol dog and he was one if the largest iv ever seen mine was over sized at 64kg
It was fine if it knew you but never did quite get the we don't eat strangers that concept not mater how much training and socialization it had it was extremely dangerous in wrong hands but a lovey dog but i had it and kept it safely for its life
lucky for them when the broke door there was still a chain on that need breaking before they could enter
It never barked or warned. it would just open it jaws and launch if had been for the door chain it would have been last ever house they entered they was in such a hurry to leave they left there screw driver and crowbar
It looks like they have been back though and stolen your full stops.one thing they did not know was she owned a German and it was a soft as can be like most now or due to bad breeding
but the real important detail the were not aware of she was looking after my Rottweiler for a few days
the thing about that particulate dog was that it was not quite wired right as it was a accidental breeding between normal one and dad was a ex mod patrol dog and he was one if the largest iv ever seen mine was over sized at 64kg
It was fine if it knew you but never did quite get the we don't eat strangers that concept not mater how much training and socialization it had it was extremely dangerous in wrong hands but a lovey dog but i had it and kept it safely for its life
lucky for them when the broke door there was still a chain on that need breaking before they could enter
It never barked or warned. it would just open it jaws and launch if had been for the door chain it would have been last ever house they entered they was in such a hurry to leave they left there screw driver and crowbar
Sorry!
Similar dog story from when I was a kid. There was a big scary looking guy with 2 American Akita's, always kept on leads with muzzles on. One night someone tried to break into his house and one of the dogs got them. The guy was hospitalised with serious life threatening injuries and the dog was put down. Guy eventually recovered, but it was reported he lost a good portion of one of his hands.
Absolutely despicable if you ask me; that dog was protecting its home and owner. Apparently as soon as the owner got out of bed and commanded the dog to stop, it stopped immediately. House breakers get what's coming to them, whether that's a claw hammer from the house owner or a jugular bite from a big dog. That's the risk you take when you intend in invading someone's home.
Absolutely despicable if you ask me; that dog was protecting its home and owner. Apparently as soon as the owner got out of bed and commanded the dog to stop, it stopped immediately. House breakers get what's coming to them, whether that's a claw hammer from the house owner or a jugular bite from a big dog. That's the risk you take when you intend in invading someone's home.
Jonno02 said:
Absolutely despicable if you ask me; that dog was protecting its home and owner. Apparently as soon as the owner got out of bed and commanded the dog to stop, it stopped immediately. House breakers get what's coming to them, whether that's a claw hammer from the house owner or a jugular bite from a big dog. That's the risk you take when you intend in invading someone's home.
Agreed. Dogs matter. Thieving scumbags don't. But make it easier for yourself in court .The weapon used does not need to be a kungfu samuri sword. Thats going to a little hard to swerve . Use everyday items that might not cause "legal issues" ,. we have all seen how the courts can turn on the victim of crime. And remember to only defend , once the threat is removed (they leaving the house etc ) you cannot continue .
Sadly this happens quite a bit, they just target the quickest least in your face cars they can, if possible 4WD.
I remember one of my mates was telling me when his dad was looking to buy a Mitsubishi Evo IX new and the salesmen advised him not to buy it.
As a week before someone he sold one to had his family held at gun point waiting for him to come back from work with the car.
Not sure if it is completely true or not just hate the thought of it.
All we can do about it is either just hand over the keys when it happens, don't buy sporty 4 doors with 4WD. Either that or just buy them in the most unusual / in your face colour you can.
I remember one of my mates was telling me when his dad was looking to buy a Mitsubishi Evo IX new and the salesmen advised him not to buy it.
As a week before someone he sold one to had his family held at gun point waiting for him to come back from work with the car.
Not sure if it is completely true or not just hate the thought of it.
All we can do about it is either just hand over the keys when it happens, don't buy sporty 4 doors with 4WD. Either that or just buy them in the most unusual / in your face colour you can.
Edited by Tomy90 on Wednesday 26th April 11:25
aspirated said:
Juanco20 said:
I don't think my natural reaction would be to risk my life over a car
Whilst I understand what you're saying and 100% agree, I don't think the gentleman who was murdered thought his life was under threat when he stepped out. Of course any sane person would remain inside. Just such a tragic way for someone to lose their husband/son etcThe problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
I had a similar thing happen to me recently and I am still trying to digest the whole thing. As this thread suggests there are definitely two schools of thought about leaving keys out of sight but easy enough to find downstairs. I was lucky in that myself wife and three kids interrupted the thieves from the vantage point of my Range Rover. My alarm sounded and they were in and out of the house in short order less than a minute. I missed the opportunity to block them in and it all happened to quickly to get out of the car and make any realistic pursuit.
Car has been found waiting for police to finish with it and get it to Mercedes.
Anyway my question is if alarm sounds and keys are not easy to find what are the thoughts on them coming upstairs. My daughters room is at the top of the stairs. I kind of don't want my car anymore even though I loved it very much but the reality is the stolen recovered effect is probably 4-5k if I get rid.
Reading the above still a lot of jumbled thoughts in my mind about the whole thing tbh so sorry it it is just an albeit small rant!
Car has been found waiting for police to finish with it and get it to Mercedes.
Anyway my question is if alarm sounds and keys are not easy to find what are the thoughts on them coming upstairs. My daughters room is at the top of the stairs. I kind of don't want my car anymore even though I loved it very much but the reality is the stolen recovered effect is probably 4-5k if I get rid.
Reading the above still a lot of jumbled thoughts in my mind about the whole thing tbh so sorry it it is just an albeit small rant!
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Any sane person wouldn't deliberately run someone over either.
The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
Ah yes, militarise the police force and car theft will practically disappear. Just look at America for proof!The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Any sane person wouldn't deliberately run someone over either.
The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
Consequences come from the justice system, not from the bobby who arrests you.The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
The guy was run over twice, so that rules out any possibility of it being "accidental". In their eyes it was probably better to escape with no witness than have him identify them later down the line.
What kind of sick tt do you have to be to run someone over twice (meaning they would have deliberately reversed back again). In their own car? Hard work obviously means different things to some people
What kind of sick t
t do you have to be to run someone over twice (meaning they would have deliberately reversed back again). In their own car? Hard work obviously means different things to some people brianashley said:
But make it easier for yourself in court .The weapon used does not need to be a kungfu samuri sword. Thats going to a little hard to swerve . Use everyday items that might not cause "legal issues" ,. we have all seen how the courts can turn on the victim of crime. And remember to only defend , once the threat is removed (they leaving the house etc ) you cannot continue .
Given your expertise at repelling these home invaders and avoiding any legal consequences plus fashioning weapons from WD40 and fire extinguishers, you should run a business helping people train for these conflicts. You'd make a fortune.You and that guy who dominates stairs could go into business together.
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Any sane person wouldn't deliberately run someone over either.
The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
While i agree with you to a degree and understand partly what you're getting at, I'm more than happy with the fact that Britain is not a gun-crazy nation like America and some other countries out there.The problem in this country is no fear of consequences, and here's why:
UK police (on the odd occasion you see them patrolling the streets):
Foreign police:
It took just one extreme case of a nut-job, who decided to massacre a load of children in school, for us to decide to put the use of guns to bed. Yet, across the water, innocent people are constantly being gunned down with nothing more than a slap on the wrist as a result.
Sorry to divert this thread some-what. I do agree that our justice system needs to be tougher in many scenarios, but as stated above, it's not the individual officers dishing out the punishment for such crimes.
It's nothing to do with the police. It's to do with the extreme lefty judges that think "putting this person that's killed someone in prison will infringe on their right to have a family life." I can't read the news these days without my blood pressure rising. The most recent one about the nurse that was part of the insurance fraud network, £16k payout and she is allowed to keep it and complete a little community service.
Bloody legal system.
Bloody legal system.
culpz said:
It took just one extreme case of a nut-job, who decided to massacre a load of children in school, for us to decide to put the use of guns to bed.
bks! All it did was prevent law abiding people from pursuing a hobby. That nut should never have had his certificate renewed. Criminals don't waith months/years and pass several checks to acquire a gun legally. Gun crime has also risen since.
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