I love my car, but worth dying for.....?

[SturdyHSV]

Dave Hedgehog said:

third generation chavs, who have grown up knowing that no matter what they do at worst all they will get is a few extra hours com service added to their total

when the police / law is total ineffective against a group they will do what ever they want, hence thieves are happy to steal bikes infront of groups of people whilst being filmed.

or the latest craze of throwing acid in peoples faces

What we need to do is convince them that there is some sort of all seeing all knowing presence that is always judging them, and that if they don't behave according to sensible rules, they will suffer an unimaginably horrible fate, perhaps one that lasts significantly longer than 100 years or so.

Maybe if we put it all in a book?

[turbobloke]

2Btoo said:

ItsJustARide said:

I moved out to Vancouver, Canada a decade ago and in all that time I cannot remember anything even remotely like this happening out here. You see landscapers with all their tools in the pickup trucks parked outside unattended and rarely, according to a mate who is landscaper, does anything get pinched.

It's not all roses out here, there's a fair bit of gang violence and bike thefts downtown are pretty common. But there just isn't the wellspring of scrotes joyriding, ram raiding etc. and just generally fscking things up for everybody.

It's really troubling to see and very hard to figure out how this problem gets sorted.

This is the most telling post of the thread. Where did the UK go so wrong?

Too many bleeding heart handwringers in positions where they can make it go wrong. They've been doing their best for decades. The criminal is seen as a victim too often and now we have a minister saying that prisons aren't there to punish criminals.It's not as though we needed telling.

Tragic loss of life. The chap was an ex-RN officer according to media coverage. He'd served his country but as per various experiences from living abroad which have been posted on PH over time, and my own limited experience, the country he served isn't what it was and not for the better.

[LittleBigPlanet]

Terribly sad story, he worked for the same company as me (we are a large company and I didn't know him).

RIP

[Dave Hedgehog]

SturdyHSV said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

third generation chavs, who have grown up knowing that no matter what they do at worst all they will get is a few extra hours com service added to their total

when the police / law is total ineffective against a group they will do what ever they want, hence thieves are happy to steal bikes infront of groups of people whilst being filmed.

or the latest craze of throwing acid in peoples faces

What we need to do is convince them that there is some sort of all seeing all knowing presence that is always judging them, and that if they don't behave according to sensible rules, they will suffer an unimaginably horrible fate, perhaps one that lasts significantly longer than 100 years or so.

Maybe if we put it all in a book?

[berlintaxi]

2Btoo said:

ItsJustARide said:

I moved out to Vancouver, Canada a decade ago and in all that time I cannot remember anything even remotely like this happening out here. You see landscapers with all their tools in the pickup trucks parked outside unattended and rarely, according to a mate who is landscaper, does anything get pinched.

It's not all roses out here, there's a fair bit of gang violence and bike thefts downtown are pretty common. But there just isn't the wellspring of scrotes joyriding, ram raiding etc. and just generally fscking things up for everybody.

It's really troubling to see and very hard to figure out how this problem gets sorted.

This is the most telling post of the thread. Where did the UK go so wrong?

When people at a distant look for the crap whilst viewing their own situation through rose tinted specs.

http://www.news1130.com/2017/03/14/one-arrested-vi...

Scum the world over, certainly not unique to the UK

[Wobbegong]

Poor chap

Killers probably didn't give a st about him.

A few years back I knew a police officer who was a regular at my pub. He came in the one evening in quite a bad state. A similar case to the stolen S3 but the victim was in hospital with severe brain damage (died a few weeks later) and the scrote was caught. The scrote was apparently laughing when told the details of the injuries to the victim. I don't know how the copper resisted turning the scrote's head into a pancake.

[xjay1337]

J4CKO said:

That is horrible, Chorlton is actually quite nice, but its near some not nice bits.


What is it with Audi S3's, they seem to be a scrote Magnet ? I saw a manky Leon with Lamborghini alloys the other day and drive round Manchester there are a lot of diesel S3's, suspect it was three grands worth of 1.6 or 2.0 tdi that was going to become an S3 look alike and it went very wrong, hope they get them and they go away for murder, I would imagine the known local car thieves are getting visits right about know.

They'll be lambo reps most likely

I only know of one or two sets of genuine Lambo wheels and they're not on "manky" Leons

The article is heatbreaking. Normal guy trying to defend his belongings. Could easily happen to any of us.

I very much doubt the bds who did it will be caught, if they are, they won't be sentenced for murder, it'll be something like aggravated assault or manslaughter, if they can even pin the blame on 1 of the 4 guys who probably did it.

wkERS.

[hyphen]

saaby93 said:

You dont hear about them trying to steal a Citroen picasso or a Hyundai elantra

Whats the market for the stolen VAG? broken up as parts?

Is it due to being a VAG? Ive read that 4/5 doors, relatively fast and something that will easily blend in are the cars most attractive to criminals who need a getaway car and this s3 meets the criteria.

[CYMR0]

saaby93 said:

You dont hear about them trying to steal a Citroen picasso or a Hyundai elantra

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/dec/03/1

Sadly, you do.

[Maracus]

A work colleague had his Golf R nicked off his drive in Solihull last month. They smashed a back window and lifted the keys.

RIP the Naval guy, this is so tragic.

The offenders are the scum of the earth.

[R8Steve]

La Liga said:

Worth keeping an eye out for spray paint / other unusual markings outside your driveway.

I'm not as involved with organised crime in terms of two in one burglaries these days but that was what a few gangs across the country were doing.

So this is/was actually a thing?

I started a thread questioning some unusual markings that had appeared on my drive a couple of years ago and got (perhaps quite rightfully) mocked for being concerned about them.

[Jonno02]

hyphen said:

Is it due to being a VAG? Ive read that 4/5 doors, relatively fast and something that will easily blend in are the cars most attractive to criminals who need a getaway car and this s3 meets the criteria.

Golf R and S3 especially as the 4WD means they're absolutely unbeatable for most police cars. Just mash the go pedal.

On Friday, I was out talking to a neighbour at the garden boundaries, an old beat up Honda something with 4 people drove slowly down the street, waited about 10 minutes at the bottom, then came back up. Never seen the car before and nobody got out (first idea was they were looking for a house for a gumtree purchase or something). As the car drove back up the street, very slowly, 4 young asian men just glared right back at us.Once they got to the top of the street, they wheel spun away.

There's a new Range Rover in the street, down at the bottom, so not sure if they're eyeing that up. It belongs to quite an elderly couple too. Sounds a bit of a BNP thing to say, but in my area, there's not really any coloured/asian people, so they do stick out.

Over-reacting aside, it is stories like this that make you think the worst about peoples intentions around your property.

Area doesn't matter too, for those saying it was a good area the S3 was taken from. The scum come from the council estates specifically to good areas because they know there's going to be an array of choice.

[xjay1337]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39690491

Sorry if already posted.

[MorganP104]

R8Steve said:

La Liga said:

Worth keeping an eye out for spray paint / other unusual markings outside your driveway.

I'm not as involved with organised crime in terms of two in one burglaries these days but that was what a few gangs across the country were doing.

So this is/was actually a thing?

I started a thread questioning some unusual markings that had appeared on my drive a couple of years ago and got (perhaps quite rightfully) mocked for being concerned about them.

I've not seen any suspicious markings round my way, though I expect it would be quite hard to distinguish between marks laid down by criminal gangs, and the kind of symbols left by the gas board, national grid, or those employed by the council to fix broken streets.

[GhostWKD]

Matt-il77s said:

But looking at the picture it's just a standard blue S3 - the insurance could replace it with another of the exact same very easily and quickly. Why risk it?

Playing devils advocate a little but isn't there a bit of a grey area with insurance if the car is taken with the keys? Not that I'd let that put me in harms way personally mind!

[R8Steve]

MorganP104 said:

R8Steve said:

La Liga said:

Worth keeping an eye out for spray paint / other unusual markings outside your driveway.

I'm not as involved with organised crime in terms of two in one burglaries these days but that was what a few gangs across the country were doing.

So this is/was actually a thing?

I started a thread questioning some unusual markings that had appeared on my drive a couple of years ago and got (perhaps quite rightfully) mocked for being concerned about them.

I've not seen any suspicious markings round my way, though I expect it would be quite hard to distinguish between marks laid down by criminal gangs, and the kind of symbols left by the gas board, national grid, or those employed by the council to fix broken streets.

They were made easier by being right up my driveway, the eventual conclusion was that it was probably kids messing about with chalk but why they would do so up my driveway remains a mystery. The car was never stolen nor was my house broken into and i've since moved house so that kind of removes any concerns i had.

[a]

jontysafe said:

The Spruce goose said:

i was mugged at knife point on holiday, i had about 2 quid in my pocket.
i told him to stab me as i wasn't handing it over , luckily he never did, and i didn't know why i did it, it was like natural instincts took over.

It seems a fool and his money aren't easily parted......

Goose - Sounds like it's just a flight-or-fight (or freeze) response, and yours is to fight. Having anything stolen at knife point like that would make you feel violated, even if it's only £2 or covered by insurance.

I'd still give up the £2, though.

[TheOversteerLever]

Sad story Poor guy.

This reminds me why I'm so paranoid about my S3.

You can't have anything, can you?

[Shakermaker]

Jonmx said:

Sadly this is true. 'My client was in fear for his life when the angry man came after him and he just panicked, he deeply regrets his actions', will be the kind of bks the defence will push.

Whilst I agree this is bks, this kind of post seems relatively common and it irks me. Everyone forgets that the defence lawyer/solicitor/etc has to act to the best of their ability for their client. They can't go ahead and say "yeah, my client did it, and I'm not going to bother trying to defend them" - they have to properly apply their legal powers and they can't abuse it, but they can't just let their client go without any defence at all. Even if they know they are on a losing streak. It is their duty to the court to provide this.

[Smanks]

GhostWKD said:

Playing devils advocate a little but isn't there a bit of a grey area with insurance if the car is taken with the keys? Not that I'd let that put me in harms way personally mind!

We had a new at the time Mk2 Focus ST which was stolen by picking front door lock to get the car keys (car parked on the drive), no noise, witnesses or evidence of front door being unlocked, insurance was settled without any hassle at all. Very surprising quick the insurance was settled and would totally understand if there were any problems with insurance paying out in that situation