RE: Mazda MX-5 BBR Stage 1 Turbo: Review
Discussion
cib24 said:
The only TVR I would have wasted my money on was the Sagaris but now sellers are asking £70k-80k for those and they just aren't worth that no matter how pretty they are.
Anyway, the BBR kit is dope. In 2-3 years this kit will be a great buy when you can get a used MX-5 in nice shape for c.£15k and spend on the upgrades to create the car in this review.
There's actually a mk 3 BBR tuned mx5 on eBay at the moment for less than £10k - looks like a great buy at that price!Anyway, the BBR kit is dope. In 2-3 years this kit will be a great buy when you can get a used MX-5 in nice shape for c.£15k and spend on the upgrades to create the car in this review.
borat52 said:
There's actually a mk 3 BBR tuned mx5 on eBay at the moment for less than £10k - looks like a great buy at that price!
I've just bought a really nice 32,000 mile 06 2.0 sport with the BBR 200 kit fitted , the extra 40bhp really makes a difference whilst still being insurable for reasonable money borat52 said:
I understand, I'm just not sure that something which laps tracks slower than a Range Rover SVR can be classified as a sports car.
You don't really need traction control when your that slow
It's literally whipped by things like hot Meganne's, mini's and golf's around tracks.
Sportscar. Sportscar - not a track car, not a £110,000 super SUV, not a hit hatch. It's a sportscar, top down, sweet handling, immersive sense of speed, tactile feedback, small, light, thrashable on the road... it's a sportscar.You don't really need traction control when your that slow
It's literally whipped by things like hot Meganne's, mini's and golf's around tracks.
My 535d is probably faster around a track. That doesn't make it a better sportscar than an MX5. Power to weight and power to grip ratios matter.
anonymous said:
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This is a joke right? A turbo or well supercharged MX5 murders an S2000 in all respects, S2000 boring as in comparison and has been for for last decade. Funniest thing I've seen is an S2000 owner club track day, it was just a demonstration of how crap they are. Yes I've driven an S2000.Herman Toothrot said:
anonymous said:
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This is a joke right? A turbo or well supercharged MX5 murders an S2000 in all respects, S2000 boring as in comparison and has been for for last decade. Funniest thing I've seen is an S2000 owner club track day, it was just a demonstration of how crap they are. Yes I've driven an S2000.why?
What I didn't like about the S2000, simply doesn't live up to its looks, ponderous steering, very imprecise and no feel compared to the mk1 Eunos I had at the time when I drove one, feel was lacking all round to be honest. Very poorly selected final drive, every gear was way too high, it seemed geared for an engine with a lot more torque and power so to be on power it felt like you kept needing to go to 2nd gear at legal road speeds. From what I read at the time a popular but expensive mod to fix this was a lower ratio final drive on the diff from one of the horribly over priced Japanese tuning companies and hence it was only really done by Japanese owners who wanted to track the car. I walked away very underwhelmed from a car that on paper I wanted to love.
Why are they uncommon on tracks (I agree they are or used to be very rarely seen from 2003 - 2014 when I was in regular attendance)? I suspect the owners know they are not much cop plenty of more fun cars available.. ;-)
I will at some point get another fun car for use on track & if I go front engine rear drive it'll be an MX5 with a big turbo as although fun in low power form holding speed etc they are a riot with buckets of power - had a 996 turbo owner at Goodwood once come over in the pits after a session to simply state 'WTF??? I pulled out to over take and then struggled - that doesn't happen often', he found it simply hilarious when he saw the big turbo on the little engine, fun times.
I do prefer mid engine rear drive for precision and tidy driving and Elise derivatives win that game for me.
Why are they uncommon on tracks (I agree they are or used to be very rarely seen from 2003 - 2014 when I was in regular attendance)? I suspect the owners know they are not much cop plenty of more fun cars available.. ;-)
I will at some point get another fun car for use on track & if I go front engine rear drive it'll be an MX5 with a big turbo as although fun in low power form holding speed etc they are a riot with buckets of power - had a 996 turbo owner at Goodwood once come over in the pits after a session to simply state 'WTF??? I pulled out to over take and then struggled - that doesn't happen often', he found it simply hilarious when he saw the big turbo on the little engine, fun times.
I do prefer mid engine rear drive for precision and tidy driving and Elise derivatives win that game for me.
cib24 said:
The only TVR I would have wasted my money on was the Sagaris but now sellers are asking £70k-80k for those and they just aren't worth that no matter how pretty they are.
Anyway, the BBR kit is dope. In 2-3 years this kit will be a great buy when you can get a used MX-5 in nice shape for c.£15k and spend on the upgrades to create the car in this review.
Pardon?Anyway, the BBR kit is dope. In 2-3 years this kit will be a great buy when you can get a used MX-5 in nice shape for c.£15k and spend on the upgrades to create the car in this review.
Herman Toothrot said:
What I didn't like about the S2000, simply doesn't live up to its looks, ponderous steering, very imprecise and no feel compared to the mk1 Eunos I had at the time when I drove one, feel was lacking all round to be honest. Very poorly selected final drive, every gear was way too high, it seemed geared for an engine with a lot more torque and power so to be on power it felt like you kept needing to go to 2nd gear at legal road speeds. From what I read at the time a popular but expensive mod to fix this was a lower ratio final drive on the diff from one of the horribly over priced Japanese tuning companies and hence it was only really done by Japanese owners who wanted to track the car. I walked away very underwhelmed from a car that on paper I wanted to love.
Perfectly put & my experience exactly having p/exed a lovely Mk1 MX-5 for a new 2006 S 2000. The Mazda could had run rings round it. BIG mistake.
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Perfectly put & my experience exactly having p/exed a lovely Mk1 MX-5 for a new 2006 S 2000. The Mazda could had run rings round it. BIG mistake.
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