RE: Noble M600: Spotted
Discussion
GranCab said:
blasos said:
Pistonheads said:
Nonplussed by automatic, sanitised supercars?
You ought to look up the definition of "nonplus".According to how many left, and I know accuracy can be hit and miss to say the least...there were 3 M600's on the road in the U.K at the end of 2016.
Even though I'm surprised they've sold any at all, I thought there would be more considering how "popular" they are and how many people would buy them after a lottery win.
Even though I'm surprised they've sold any at all, I thought there would be more considering how "popular" they are and how many people would buy them after a lottery win.
f1nn said:
According to how many left, and I know accuracy can be hit and miss to say the least...there were 3 M600's on the road in the U.K at the end of 2016.
Even though I'm surprised they've sold any at all, I thought there would be more considering how "popular" they are and how many people would buy them after a lottery win.
Even though I'm surprised they've sold any at all, I thought there would be more considering how "popular" they are and how many people would buy them after a lottery win.
Yipper said:
An ugly, dated, rattly, unreliable Volvo kitcar with a badge noone recognizes cobbled together on an industrial estate in the Midlands for the same price as a Lambo or Ferrari...
Ahm oot.
Ah, but you are missing the point, they don't have any driver aids, save from a probably quite crude traction control system, so that in some way makes them more desirable than whatever established supercar you car to mention.Ahm oot.
No, it makes no sense to me either.
I am not sure why there is so much hate on here.... Judging by all the ridiculously positive reviews it got from all journos, who actually drove the damn things, and also get to drive all the other italian and german cars, it would seem that the m600 is genuinely a great car even in comparison to rivals. To dismiss a car from behind a computer screen because is has a "volvo" engine or that it was built in a shed is probably more of a reflection on someones' character rather than the actual car itself. Its an old school car, but with (relatively) modern underpinnings - something that is pretty rare nowadays. Celebrate the damn things!
from me!fblm said:
Yipper said:
An ugly, dated, rattly, unreliable Volvo kitcar with a badge noone recognizes cobbled together on an industrial estate in the Midlands for the same price as a Lambo or Ferrari...
Ahm oot.
What do you drive?Ahm oot.
For me the M600 is a massive opportunity missed, as it has nothing about it externally or internally that's is in any way desirable.
The engineering, stats, and performance are top drawer....but wrapping it all up in something this low-key and dated is really sad.
Get some proper designers in Noble.
The stuff before this had some drama and individuality. This looks like it was done by the numbers. A pure carbon version is fun, but it'll never be enough to attract bigger numbers of punters....unless of course Noble is happy being a low-output, specialist shed operation.
Presented in gloss medium blue with invisible wheels just makes it worse, imo.
fblm said:
Yipper said:
An ugly, dated, rattly, unreliable Volvo kitcar with a badge noone recognizes cobbled together on an industrial estate in the Midlands for the same price as a Lambo or Ferrari...
Ahm oot.
What do you drive?Ahm oot.
P.S. The engine was developed by Yamaha Motor Corporation for Volvo. It is built in Japan and based on Volvo designs. It is modified for Noble with the addition twin Garrett turbochargers etc.
chonok said:
So the M600 is the only car that Noble has made since 2011, there are currently only 3 on the road and they are still in business?? 
The managing director of Noble Cars, the Leicester-based manufacturer of the M600 supercar, says that the company's Chinese owner, Bowei Liu, has plans to boost production and profitability while retaining the brand's 'sense of rarity'.The M600 launched in 2009 and only 25 models have been built in the past seven years.
Noble started life as a kit carmaker in the year 2000. It was founded by former racing driver Lee Noble, who left the business in 2008 two years after its acquisition by US businessman Peter Dyson.
Managing director Peter Boutwood was hired by Dyson and remains at the helm of the business following the takeover by Chinese investor Bowei Liu in June 2015.
Boutwood told Insider that Noble currently produces 12 cars per year and making 15 would push the business into the black. Increasing production to 20 vehicles per year would generate "a nice profit".
Quickmoose said:
What difference does that make?
For me the M600 is a massive opportunity missed, as it has nothing about it externally or internally that's is in any way desirable.
The engineering, stats, and performance are top drawer....but wrapping it all up in something this low-key and dated is really sad.
Get some proper designers in Noble.
The stuff before this had some drama and individuality. This looks like it was done by the numbers. A pure carbon version is fun, but it'll never be enough to attract bigger numbers of punters....unless of course Noble is happy being a low-output, specialist shed operation.
Presented in gloss medium blue with invisible wheels just makes it worse, imo.
Difference? None, I'm just intrigued. It's a punchy post about a car that was so highly praised. This is still a car forum right? For Noble it's not a question of their happiness. To break out requires money, big, big money. What's McLarens road car investment; IIRC 1bn over 5 years. It's clearly the wrong brand to go head to head with Pagani or Koenigsseg, so it's got to take on the big boys Ferrari, McL and Lambo, you've really got to hand it to them that they got so close.For me the M600 is a massive opportunity missed, as it has nothing about it externally or internally that's is in any way desirable.
The engineering, stats, and performance are top drawer....but wrapping it all up in something this low-key and dated is really sad.
Get some proper designers in Noble.
The stuff before this had some drama and individuality. This looks like it was done by the numbers. A pure carbon version is fun, but it'll never be enough to attract bigger numbers of punters....unless of course Noble is happy being a low-output, specialist shed operation.
Presented in gloss medium blue with invisible wheels just makes it worse, imo.
I agree, to be mentioned in the same sentence and all that does the team huge credit.
Personally I'm just sad they don't make them more attractive (eye and the beholder accepted of course)
The MC12's had more about them, and given England has some of, if not, the best Automotive design schools, why haven't they collared one or two?
Subsidised competition or sponsored a student... It honestly looks like they've given the brief to the engineers and sort out....
Noble should be considered as one of England's premier super car brands... above TVR and along side Lotus/Aston Martin...this should be the aim imo...they ain't gonna achieve that with this quality of design...
Personally I'm just sad they don't make them more attractive (eye and the beholder accepted of course)
The MC12's had more about them, and given England has some of, if not, the best Automotive design schools, why haven't they collared one or two?
Subsidised competition or sponsored a student... It honestly looks like they've given the brief to the engineers and sort out....
Noble should be considered as one of England's premier super car brands... above TVR and along side Lotus/Aston Martin...this should be the aim imo...they ain't gonna achieve that with this quality of design...
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