RE: TTS Twin-supercharged Audi R8: PH Blog

RE: TTS Twin-supercharged Audi R8: PH Blog

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JohnGoodridge

529 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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lukeharding said:
Don1 said:
Is it just me, or does that line at the bonnet make it look like it's got terrible body gaps?

Apart from that, great work!
I thought that, looks like they're driving with the bonnet open.
+1. First glimpse looked like a CAT C classified pic. Much better work in the engine bay...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Don1 said:
Is it just me, or does that line at the bonnet make it look like it's got terrible body gaps?

Apart from that, great work!
now you mention it... rofl

PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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I don't see the point modifying exotic/super/hyper cars.

You can get 750bhp out of any number of 90's and 00's Jap sports cars for the price of the kit alone including the car itself.

That R8 with those stickers and stuck on stuff is akin to a £50k rolex watch with a garish pink Swatch strap.

lukeharding

2,948 posts

90 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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PHMatt said:
I don't see the point modifying exotic/super/hyper cars.

You can get 750bhp out of any number of 90's and 00's Jap sports cars for the price of the kit alone including the car itself.

That R8 with those stickers and stuck on stuff is akin to a £50k rolex watch with a garish pink Swatch strap.
Well not everyone wants a 90s or 00s Jap sports car. The stickers etc are wholly unnecessary yes but look at all those people who wrap their cars in ever more disgusting ways, makes this look tame.

BentleyR8

255 posts

142 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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culpz said:
Good little read that. I do seem to hear more and more people going for the forced-induction route with the R8. I've ever heard of this particular set up before though.

Anyone who is familiar with or follows Chris from Dedication Blog (YouTube channel) would know that he has had his manual R8 V10 supercharged for some time now. Can't remember exactly who did it and what set-up it is but the thing is absolutely ballistic. I can only imagine what the acceleration is like but it just appears to have instant get-up-and-go.
He's running the VF Engineering kit on his V10, making around 750bhp. Pretty sure it was Regal that installed his. I keep looking at the VF kit for my V8 and that makes around 550bhp and has a very neat look to the engine bay, almost OE. Thing i'm not keen on this one is how much it alters the original appearance.

AWG

855 posts

157 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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lukeharding said:
PHMatt said:
I don't see the point modifying exotic/super/hyper cars.

You can get 750bhp out of any number of 90's and 00's Jap sports cars for the price of the kit alone including the car itself.

That R8 with those stickers and stuck on stuff is akin to a £50k rolex watch with a garish pink Swatch strap.
Well not everyone wants a 90s or 00s Jap sports car. The stickers etc are wholly unnecessary yes but look at all those people who wrap their cars in ever more disgusting ways, makes this look tame.
I used to think the very same but comparing a 700bhp evo and this is apples and oranges i'm afraid. The price element is true but every car is different and it's not always about getting to 'pub talk' figures at the cheapest price!

samoht

5,736 posts

147 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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PHMatt said:
I don't see the point modifying exotic/super/hyper cars.
You can get 750bhp out of any number of 90's and 00's Jap sports cars for the price of the kit alone including the car itself.
750hp out of 4 litres is somewhat different from 750hp out of 2.6 litres. I imagine the differences manifest themselves in the progressiveness of throttle response and perhaps the distance between servicing / engine rebuilds.

The R8 is mid-engined, you'd have to turbo an NSX to get something vaguely similar, which is nearly as expensive as an R8 nowadays.

The R8 is a newer car, less chance of rust / general worn-out rubber parts

The R8 is plusher inside than a 90s Japanese car.


Now personally I drive a 90s Japanese sports car with the boost turned up and enjoy it, & it weighs a fair chunk less than an R8 into the bargain. But I totally see the appeal of an Audi like this.

Caddyshack

10,843 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Don't see any reason why it would go bang and 30,000 miles as a development mule where mistakes may have been made proves it hasn't yet.

Lots of performance for the money and you could probably fit most of it yourself and then get them to map it.

The r8 was crying out for more power and even then v10 has throttle locks that can be removed for easy 570bhp...they were locked to keep the Lambo marketing peeps happy.

Love it and I bet the super chargers are a nicer drive than turbo options.

Evilex

512 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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kambites said:
Yipper said:
Supercharging and turboing sports cars in the aftermarket is much more common in the US. Seems to be some stigma attached to that kind of thing here.
I think it's a combination of two things - cars are viewed more as "consumables" in the UK so the natural attitude is to replace the car with something faster rather than spend money improving it which wont be recouped at sale time (many people in the UK seem to worry more about the person they're going to sell their car to than themselves).

Also, insurance for heavily modified cars tends to be pretty crippling in the UK.
Precisely. Cars here ARE consumables. Many of our roads are in a condition that damages cars. We salt our roads during winter. Our traffic density even outside urban areas is sufficiently high that driving is often a chore, and extra power is unusable. Then there's the likelihood of someone tail ending you in all that traffic, the inevitable insurance, and the fact that the base cost of many cars is higher here, and even more so when you factor in the cost of living. Besides, I think as a nation, we're more conservative than our American cousins, so products and services that are relevant across the Atlantic are less so here, and vice-versa.

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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whats a billeting machine? New one on me.

surely if you wanted to do this you wouldn't go to a company who's made a so so name playing with bikes, you'd want more development?

what could you do to that engine staying N/A for that sort of money?

Butter Face

30,341 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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jason61c said:
whats a billeting machine? New one on me.

surely if you wanted to do this you wouldn't go to a company who's made a so so name playing with bikes, you'd want more development?

what could you do to that engine staying N/A for that sort of money?
TTS have been supercharging Hondas, Airel Atoms, Ford engine, bikes and all kinds of stuff for ages.

I've got a TTS kit on my car and it's ace.

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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jason61c said:
whats a billeting machine?
Sadly that was my first reaction to the article too.

Doodlebug87

188 posts

114 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Butter Face said:
jason61c said:
whats a billeting machine? New one on me.

surely if you wanted to do this you wouldn't go to a company who's made a so so name playing with bikes, you'd want more development?

what could you do to that engine staying N/A for that sort of money?
TTS have been supercharging Hondas, Airel Atoms, Ford engine, bikes and all kinds of stuff for ages.

I've got a TTS kit on my car and it's ace.
Agreed, I don't get the whole suspicion that the engine will spontaneously disassemble itself at a moments notice! I diy installed a TTS Rotrex kit to a completely standard Civic Type R, got it mapped by somebody with expertise in Honda engines and it ran perfectly. The only event which interfered with this was binning it.... I'd have the car again in a heartbeat! It took the k20 from 200 to 300 bhp with no other modifications and didn't really change the engine character at all. The boost built in line with the revs and was still increasing at 8500 towards the redline! The most fun I've had in a car...

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Adz The Rat said:
xjay1337 said:
I agree

People here seem to think everything is going to blow up.

Cars are quite reliable. It's done 30k like this FFS.
Underground Racing in the US get a reliable 2000bhp from the V10's and offer a 2 year warranty on them, madness.
I'll say it's madness but imagine there's a lot of small print in the warranty.

Caddyshack

10,843 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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jason61c said:
whats a billeting machine? New one on me.

surely if you wanted to do this you wouldn't go to a company who's made a so so name playing with bikes, you'd want more development?

what could you do to that engine staying N/A for that sort of money?
Maybe try and find a crashed V10 and see if you can get the engine and electrics to work in the V8 or upgrade your V8 by selling and using the money for a V10 but that's about 570bhp and less torque I think...I doubt there is a lot you would gain with £20k through traditional tuning on N/a...maybe increase the capacity and some cams and head work but I bet the gains would be meagre and reliability would possibly suffer as you would need more revs in most tuning applications.

BentleyR8

255 posts

142 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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For me its a viable option. My V8 is very well specced yet if I was to part exchange it against a V10 i'd probably see £40,000 with some decent bargaining. To get a decent V10 your looking anywhere from £58,000-£60,000 and then you are down on power.

I know there is the depreciating factor and you may well struggle to move a supercharged R8 but for me there is something very appealing about creating your own one off.

Scottie - NW

1,290 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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kambites said:
Also, insurance for heavily modified cars tends to be pretty crippling in the UK.
I think this statement is quite wrong from my experience and also a lot of my friends.

I took a fast car anyway, more than doubled it's bhp, all done to high standards, forged engine rebuild etc, did all the chassis work and brakes, gauges, management, seats, harnesses, slicks and so on, in fact the list of modifications from standard takes 3 pages of A4 to email to the insurers and yet I have never had a problem with insurance.

In fact the faster I've made it each year the cheaper it is, currently paying just under £400 for fully comp for two drivers with 5k a year mileage limit....which is just less than I pay for the relatively boring daily diesel estate car!!

I have many friends with hugely tuned cars, one from 200bhp to over 650bhp with the installation of a 6 litre V8 and supercharged, and all have found very reasonable priced insurance.

IknowJoseph

542 posts

141 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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PHMatt said:
That R8 with those stickers and stuck on stuff is akin to a £50k rolex watch with a garish pink Swatch strap.
Wouldn't be much of a sales demonstrator if it was a Q car though..

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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10.8 seconds over the quarter is very quick but is is still half a second behind the 10.3 seconds quoted figures for a 720s which is an eternity in drag racing terms

underphil

1,246 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Streetrod said:
10.8 seconds over the quarter is very quick but is is still half a second behind the 10.3 seconds quoted figures for a 720s which is an eternity in drag racing terms
Are those times both for manual gearboxes??