RE: The Toyota GT86 is more relevant than ever: TMIW

RE: The Toyota GT86 is more relevant than ever: TMIW

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Mr Tidy

22,521 posts

128 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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freeform said:
GT86 is very keenly priced - compared to the new Fiat 124 Abarth...

My 2006 Honda S2000 is more relevant than ever!

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Maybe - but my 2006 Z4 Coupe seems at least as relevant. laugh

s m

23,276 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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JB! said:
A bit more on the "why" especially the tyres:

https://youtu.be/tHVhaTNRk8E
That sheds some light on the oft-repeated myth of the "skinny low-grip" Primacy OEM tyres!

Niffty951

2,333 posts

229 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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otolith said:
delta0 said:
I think your RX8 must have been broken. It has more torque and at a lower rpm. I found the RX8 immensely quicker than the GT86 too. Handling wise the early RX8 was soft. PZ and R3 are the ones with awesome handling.
They're a lot slower in a straight line than a Golf R though.

The GT86 reminded me of my RX-8 in how it felt. And while the PZ and R3 were stiffer, the original car had a lovely balance of ride and handling. Maybe not stiff enough for the track but dealt with crappy back road surfaces beautifully.
Yes mine was pre suspension tweaks and I agree entirely with this statement. I've never driven the latter but as a road car the early model was an excellent balance. Definitely too soft for track use.

p.s. Not a lot slower, slower yes but no where near as much as you'd perceive from the drivers seat! That's exactly what encouraged the chap to over egg it on the bends. It didn't pull much clear air down the straight. The perception of acceleration feels WAY stronger in the golf but a lot of that is delivery.

Edited by Niffty951 on Sunday 11th June 09:26

greenarrow

3,626 posts

118 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Niffty951 said:
otolith said:
delta0 said:
I think your RX8 must have been broken. It has more torque and at a lower rpm. I found the RX8 immensely quicker than the GT86 too. Handling wise the early RX8 was soft. PZ and R3 are the ones with awesome handling.
They're a lot slower in a straight line than a Golf R though.

The GT86 reminded me of my RX-8 in how it felt. And while the PZ and R3 were stiffer, the original car had a lovely balance of ride and handling. Maybe not stiff enough for the track but dealt with crappy back road surfaces beautifully.
Yes mine was pre suspension tweaks and I agree entirely with this statement. I've never driven the latter but as a road car the early model was an excellent ballance. Definitely too soft for track use.
Ah you say that,(too soft for the track) but didn't an early RX-8 lap the top gear track in 1.31.8 which was back with the slower stig and I believe a match for an E46 M3?. At the time, the RX-8 was quicker than any of the then current hot hatches such as the EP3 Type R, Focus ST and so on. I've just checked and the GT86 was half a second quicker with the new quicker Stig in it.

I still want an RX-8 BTW. Drove one in 2004 and found it absolutely beguiling. Nothing like it on the road. Motorbike type engine, soft and pillowy ride AND four doors so all the family can come...shame the engine problems spoiled the fun as otherwise surely it would be a sort after classic in 2017.


Edited by greenarrow on Sunday 11th June 09:38

CABC

5,602 posts

102 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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thread closes on RX8. 2 pages short guys

doogle83

760 posts

148 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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I'm hanging on for GadgeS3C's test drive feedback after this weekend! tongue outbiggrin

LordGrover

33,552 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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venquessa said:
To be pedantic.... A pipe comes off the airbox T piece. It goes to a round box which has a diaphragm in it which transfers the vibration (sound) down a rubber pipe to the driver foot well hole. The diaphragm is only there so it doesn't interfere with the intake pressure or inject (or draw) intake air into/from the cabin.

No synthesis. The only 'tuning' of the sound is by the size/shape of the diaphragm, it's chamber and the size/shape of the sound hole in the foot well.

As stated elsewhere you can plug it using the 12V socket cover or you can buy sound plugs from TRD to change the volume/tone of it a bit. Finally you can just plug it with ear plugs or a plastic wine bottle cork.

Most induction/intake mods delete the sound pipe completely.
The blanking plug for the 12v socket in the glove box fits perfectly. wink