RE: NIO EP9 sets new Nurburgring record

[anonymous-user]

Ambleton said:

Sf_Manta said:

Max_Torque said:

And the car was mostly engineered here in sunny Northamptonshire!


Nice to see the UK leading the charge to full electromobility from the front ;-)



;-)

Indeed.. a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into the battery systems on that, mine included.

A lot of blood sweat and tears from quite a few people went into the project...

Lots of long days and late nights! But brilliant results ;-)

[MDL111]

Quite impressive and doubt it felt boring when driving. Looked a bit like somebody hit fast forward when he starts accelerating out of corners

Most cars today do not sound particularly good with fake exhaust pops on the overrun, engine sound piped through the sound system etc - so do not see the big deal of no sound instead on new cars - for sound I can always get an older one - they don't make them "properly" anymore anyway thanks to regulations. Not many high revving n/a engines left in the world.

[drpep]

Very cool, but dull beyond words. Washing machine meets, metro-train sound.

Impressive engineering feat with zero purchase appeal for me.

[stuckmojo]

Gandahar said:

Like the Nissan FWD Le Mans Car ?

I guess the slight difference here is that the Nissan effort was such an embarrassment they (rightly) ran into hiding never to be seen again.

This is an amazing effort instead, well done, what a pretty car too.

[anonymous-user]

981C said:

I'm looking forward to the day that EVs become so widespread that us enthusiasts can have 9krpm screaming 6,8,10 and 12 cylinder engines in our road cars without any worry about CO2

Exactly. When 99% of cars are EVs no one will care about a few of us sad old luddites any more than we care about the emissions from the few remaining pre-cat cars today

[anonymous-user]

Max_Torque said:

Ambleton said:

Sf_Manta said:

Max_Torque said:

And the car was mostly engineered here in sunny Northamptonshire!


Nice to see the UK leading the charge to full electromobility from the front ;-)



;-)

Indeed.. a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into the battery systems on that, mine included.

A lot of blood sweat and tears from quite a few people went into the project...

Lots of long days and late nights! But brilliant results ;-)

How many laps can it do? With 1MW motor and what 2x40kWh batteries(?);1 or 2 laps?

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 17th May 04:54

[RobDickinson]

DPSFleet said:

This is Piston heads? Fully electric vehicles ought to have a separate section.

They do already. Its even a subforum in the 'General Gassing' section.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&...

But this is general news, I've never once seen a comment on any of the other billion Nurburgring record threads where someone moans it should be in the Porsche section or whatever.

[donteatpeople]

I know it's highly unfashionable to suggest anything that doesn't go brum could be fun but I can't imagine a 1360hp car that can also corner and take on a bumpy surface being anything other than hilarious. Obviously it's not going to entertain in the same way as a classic car but I don't think fun has to be uniform. My mountain bike doesn't even have an engine (/motor) but that still entertains me. You don't get much driver envolvement riding a roller coaster but I still enjoy them. Bring it all on, the more variety the better.

Dave Hedgehog said:

very very fast

but everyone knows electric cars can be fast, tesla have been making stupidly fast cars for ages and at semi affordable prices, the 100D has been descibed as physically painful in lydicrious mode

still not desirable

Tesla make fast cars for a drag strip but I've not heard about them setting many lap times and little is written about handling at all. To me this car seems to represent another step forward towards seriously entering EVs.

[M400 NBL]

They've clearly sped up the video by 5% and added the stop watch afterwards.

Very impressive car and driver.

[Evilex]

DPSFleet said:

This is Piston heads? Fully electric vehicles ought to have a separate section.

Fairly sure there are pistons in it somewhere... Dampers? Brake calipers?

I, too, don't understand all the EV hate. The personal automobile gives very many of us a degree of freedom we simply would not otherwise have. If alternative fuels are the only way to continue that pattern after the demise of fossil-derived fuels and the ICE, then so be it.

Any steps towards improving said replacements can only be a good thing. I'd consider this such a step (YMMV), and, as such, welcome it.

[howardhughes]

Here we go again....another pissing contest

[J4CKO]

Thom said:

GroundEffect said:

You're saying that turbo lag is a good thing, by definition?

And please tell us again how TDIs have 'soul'?

I have no issue at all saying the 991.2 GT3 will be fantastic on the ring but actually I'd rather drive the PDK....

Turbo lag forces drivers to think, anticipate and control their drive. This is called driver involvement. How could this not be a good thing to force drivers to develop some kind of responsibility and develop some mechanical affinity?
I'd say that TDIs suck but, and I hate to say it, I'd have a TDI any day over an EV if I lived in a remote countryside with limited air pollution.
PDK is one of many assistance gimmick that adds complexity, costs and traps drivers into thinking sport cars are all about going FAST.

Anyway I know where you are heading, and sorry this whole thing about always improving EFFICIENCY is where car engineering as a whole has gone completely wrong. When overly efficient cars will ultimately turn drivers into "athletes" focused only on reducing lap times, said drivers may actually become as stupid and clueless as athletes!
Again, I support the development of EVs where air pollution has become a major sanitary issue, but pretending to turn them into any kind of recreational tools of mobility is an utter joke.

We only know about all that stuff because IC engines are a bodge to get us 100 or so years to viable electric transport, like the crackle on the start of a record the noise from an IC engine is a downside we have turned into a feature, like Coco Pops turning the "milk choclately", future generations wont know or care about that any more than you care about the bond between a horse rider and their steed, it is totally just what you are used to.

It is a device for moving people and stuff around and it should be quiet and efficient, you shoudlnt need loads of skill to do it, we have to remember we are the weird ones here, the ones that see driving a car beyond its utility, we get too involved, some old Doris in her Jazz may enjoy it just as much for the feeling of freedom, movement, seeing the world pass by and the method of moving the vehicle becomes irrelevant.

I welcome the EV and things like this can only accelerate its adoption, I dont know why people go on about "appliances", cars are utility objects first and foremost, all the nonsense we put around them cant take that away, I love cars and engines, but I can see where it is going and it is the needs of the many rather than us oddballs that will drive it, EV's, though they currently have a few downsides are otherwise just better in every way for doing the purpose they are intended for, the completely inferior power delivery of an IC engine is not a good argument.

We will be dead and gone, our cars will be museum pieces or stuff rolled out for Sunday morning and shows, the vast majority of day to day traffic will be electric, the world will be quieter and cleaner, energy will go further, cars will have less downtime for maintenance and be safer, all very valid issues to solve based on todays roads.

[smilo996]

Imagine the time if, as or when battery tech takes a leap forward.

Very impressive though a bit dull.

Northampton conquering the world.

[mybrainhurts]

$1,480,000 for a grown up Scalextric...?

How very absurd.

[big_rob_sydney]

Whats funny to me are the idiots thinking only an ICE can be fun. FFS, how many of us have been to a theme park and ridden on a roller coaster, and come off that with a smile?

Get over your stupid ICE. Half of them now have bloody piped in sound anyway. And if that's what you really wanted, any EV can be made to have an artificial soundtrack, if enough losers wanted it so.

[981C]

Max_Torque said:

and even better, you can apply the same negative wheel torque as positive, so you can prevent wheels spinning up if they suddenly loose traction, and because current can be modulated with a KHz frequency control loop, you can keep tyre slip in a very narrow window of high efficiency even under hugely variable load conditions (like riding kerbs etc)

Using a real time dynamic model of the vehicle, corrected with near real time sensor data (kalman filter using accelerometers / yaw sensors etc) you know precisely the vehicles velocity vector, and hence the tyre slip in all axes!

A bit too technical, even for pistonnerds. Was waiting for a Laplace transform to make an appearance...

[anonymous-user]

big_rob_sydney said:

Whats funny to me are the idiots thinking only an ICE can be fun. FFS, how many of us have been to a theme park and ridden on a roller coaster, and come off that with a smile?

Get over your stupid ICE. Half of them now have bloody piped in sound anyway. And if that's what you really wanted, any EV can be made to have an artificial soundtrack, if enough losers wanted it so.

Yeah! Those idiots with their stupid ICE cars what a bunch of losers.

Any news yet on how many laps this thing can do? The silence is deafening. My money's on 1 at that speed.

[dvs_dave]

Where has this car come from? I've not seen anything at all about it on PH before, and suddenly a NR record out of nowhere, a load of PH'ers directly involved in the project, and no other links in the article to any more info on the car. What and when did I miss things?

[anonymous-user]

dvs_dave said:

Where has this car come from? I've not seen anything at all about it on PH before, and suddenly a NR record out of nowhere, a load of PH'ers directly involved in the project, and no other links in the article to any more info on the car. What and when did I miss things?

It's done a 2:40 of Circuit of Americas too. With no driver!

[djt100]

I've never thought about it before watching video's but the difference the sound of an engine makes, without it that was so boring to watch