RE: Volkswagen Up GTI - official

RE: Volkswagen Up GTI - official

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Dr G

15,209 posts

243 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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VW launch a light, cheap, quick, simple, fun car.

Pistonheads: It isn't light enough, cheap enough, quick enough, simple enough, or fun enough mad

...and it isn't as good as my 10 year old 3 grand AMG/MX5/M5/RS

You guys rofl

I'm pretty sure an algorithm could be written to replace about 80% of comments on these forums and nobody would be able to tell the difference wink

sideways man

1,321 posts

138 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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About time....

VW have been developing this for years, so it should be absolutely amazing to drive!
Now we need the Skoda version to make a real bargain pocket rocket.

nbetts

1,455 posts

230 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Not as good as the Lupo GTi of 2001.

Underwhelming. VW could have really made this a very special little car but they have stopped short.

I am disappointed.

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Looks fantastic cool I want one

Filibuster

3,165 posts

216 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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J4CKO said:
3 cyls are ace, its a tiny car, a 4 cyl probably wouldn't fit, they all have three cyls in the Up range.

Will probably give it a more sporty sound as well, les face it, smaller VW 4 cyls generally arent super sporty having driven a cooking Polo a while back, it had an engine but I cant remember anything about it apart from it being wholly unremarkable, we have two three cyls, the C1 and Fiesta, both sound "unconventional", the C1 better than the Fiesta, kind of normal car with a hint of something eastern bloc seventies style, maybe air cooled, not unlike our old Fiat 500 in that way you really are aware when its running and cant mistake it for other cars.
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What he said! 3 cyl cars sound like half a Porsche biggrin
It would have been nice if they'd have widened the body and given it a wider track, like they did on the Lupo GTI.
But I'm sure it will be a great car nethertheless, albeit there is room for a Up! R, with said wider track/Body and 160 bhp

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Dr G said:
VW launch a light, cheap, quick, simple, fun car.

Pistonheads: It isn't light enough, cheap enough, quick enough, simple enough, or fun enough mad

...and it isn't as good as my 10 year old 3 grand AMG/MX5/M5/RS

You guys rofl

I'm pretty sure an algorithm could be written to replace about 80% of comments on these forums and nobody would be able to tell the difference wink
I wouldn't say 15 grand is cheap.

great_kahn

83 posts

87 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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£15k?! How are VW getting so little power out of there 1.0 triple tubby?

I-A

410 posts

158 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Looks cool, but it's not an amicable replacement for the Lupo GTi - but maybe it's not meant to be a replacement however.

M-SportMatt

1,923 posts

139 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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great_kahn said:
£15k?! How are VW getting so little power out of there 1.0 triple tubby?
I'm pretty sure they could make it produce any number between 40-200bhp if they wanted, its not that they cant make it more powerful, they dont want to.

Emissions, insurance, fuel consumption are all considerations I guess

tankplanker

2,479 posts

280 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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great_kahn said:
£15k?! How are VW getting so little power out of there 1.0 triple tubby?
This is my thoughts on it as well, seems like it is deliberately down on power to not impact Polo GTI sales. I would expect a half decent remap to get a safe 150 BHP out of the same engine as long as VW haven't gone marginal on the stock clutch.

115 BHP and much closer to 1000kg in GTI spec with nice seats and other (heavy) electric goodies to plump out the GTI spec makes it just about warm hatch levels. Seems to be way down on power compared to the hot Fiat 500s.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Sub tonne kerbweight? Where has all this BS about lightweight cars come from? One minute on Google shows the current Up weighs up to 1250kg.

Ditto the lightweight 1300kg+ GT86.

Welcome to post fact world.

Zirconium

80 posts

90 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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nbetts said:
Not as good as the Lupo GTi of 2001.

Underwhelming. VW could have really made this a very special little car but they have stopped short.

I am disappointed.
Algorithm!

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Dr G said:
VW launch a light, cheap, quick, simple, fun car.

Pistonheads: It isn't light enough, cheap enough, quick enough, simple enough, or fun enough mad

...and it isn't as good as my 10 year old 3 grand AMG/MX5/M5/RS

You guys rofl

I'm pretty sure an algorithm could be written to replace about 80% of comments on these forums and nobody would be able to tell the difference wink
I'm not a VW fan at all, but I like to give credit where it's due and this thing looks mega. I've already told my brother to get his name down for one as soon as he can (he wants a sporty super mini)

MadDog1962

891 posts

163 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Potentially quite a lot of back to basics fun. I think that it's a bit too heavy though.

About 100kg more than an old Mk 1 Golf GTI.

Maybe VW could offer a stripped down version? (Wind up windows, less trim, etc etc)

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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MadDog1962 said:
Potentially quite a lot of back to basics fun. I think that it's a bit too heavy though.

About 100kg more than an old Mk 1 Golf GTI.

Maybe VW could offer a stripped down version? (Wind up windows, less trim, etc etc)
I doubt wind up windows save any weight and have you been an up!?

They'd struggle to put less trim in. Half the interior is painted metal bodywork!

ETA: it is that way on my sister in law's Skoda Citigo. I haven't been in an up! so it may well be different

loveice

649 posts

248 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Not so sure...

Lupo GTI had a revy naturally aspirated 1.6 which has an official figure of 125bhp (or ps?), but in reality most owners can get that figure at the from wheels!

What's more instead of a body kits like this Up GTI, Lupo GTI had its own unique aluminum front and rear wings which have four wider wheel arches to accommodate the wider front and rear tracks. At the front, it also has its own headlights design which is different from standard Lupos, that also applys to front bumper and the aluminum bonnet. One other thing most people don't know is that It has a magnesium rear hatch which is borrowed from Lupo 3L model.

Inside Lupo GTI it has its own dash/dial design which again is different from any other Lupo models. It isn't some fancy material replacement like what M cars or AMG cars compare to normal BMWs or Mercs. It was a completely different design only for the GTI model...

I still think the best VW GTIs are Golf MK1, MK2 GTIs and Lupo GTI.

loveice

649 posts

248 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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nbetts said:
Not as good as the Lupo GTi of 2001.
You mean not as good as the Lupo GTI of second half of 2002... which has a 6-speed gearbox instead of the earlier 5-speed.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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dxg said:
Are those rear drums?

As a Lupo GTI owner, I'm not impressed. The Lupo stood out by all the subtle (different body shell for the rear arches, for example) changes that were made. This is just wheels and suspension...
You clearly aren't a "proper" VW owner. Half of the "builds" are wheels and suspension.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Looks excellent.

jayemdoubleu

54 posts

91 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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