RE: Shed Of The Week: Ford Mondeo ST220
Discussion
cookington said:
Why wouldn't the seller replace the bonnet using said scrapyard item before sale?
I'm wondering what else was damaged when it 'got a little hot.'?
I would suggest that the current bonnet paint issue is only time catching up with a previously poor respray and nothing to do with any excess localised heat.I'm wondering what else was damaged when it 'got a little hot.'?
The Don of Croy said:
With a long MOT shirley any half decent car under the magic grand is bargainistic?
Given that it could spring some ugly numbers on you it's still only a cheap mota? Use, abuse, send to scrappy. No?
That's the essence of shedonomics. Given that it could spring some ugly numbers on you it's still only a cheap mota? Use, abuse, send to scrappy. No?
The obvious problems are as follows:
1. You can no longer cash in the balance of the road tax.
2. Scrap prices are low and old cars are plentiful. The scrap man might give you next to nothing.
3. Unless you have space "parting it out" probably isn't an option.
4. If you can't fix it yourself (a lot of shedders are 'andy wiv der spanners innit!) one expensive failure is what kills the car.
If you can afford to risk it (and can afford insurance) sheds can be a wonderful way to get around in some very cool old cars.
JohnGoodridge said:
corcoran said:
Spannerski said:
Like all Fords.
There good to about 80,000 miles then become money pits.
lol no - drove a Focus st170 for years without issue right up to 120,000 miles, sold it, bought a 3 series e46.. THAT sir, is a money pit.There good to about 80,000 miles then become money pits.
That certainly isn't limited to M3 models either.
I'd much rather transport my kids around in a MK3 Mondeo, where the factory actually welded the chassis together correctly. Than an e46, where they didn't.
Edited by lee_erm on Saturday 20th May 11:07
Cambs_Stuart said:
I had one of these. It was a superb car, until the main bearing went at less than 60,000 miles, despite twice yearly oil changes and various gasket replacements. Until that point it was very reliable...
I know someone that had one years ago, with a lot less miles on it. Same crank problem and apparently it wasn't a rarity...blade7 said:
Would Ford spend thousands repairing a 10 year old Mondeo FOC though...
BMW don't catch the cracks either. My M3 was deemed fit by a dealer on a checkup as are many. Upon pulling down things you could tell it was cracked ; they don't do this. Their inspection is purely visual on face value.That and their foam 'repair' only takes care of the rear mounts, not the fronts which also crack frequently if you look at the vidoes.
Until you pull the subframe away from the car you won't know for sure if the RACP is cracked. FWIW mine had gone on:
-underneath the O/S front mount around the threaded receiver ; invisible with the subframe in place
-Further upstream around the front O/S mount ; this was visible with the tray off ; BMW don't do this
-under the underseal ; it was not cracked badly but it was starting to show signs.
It is a shame as they are a great car in many ways.
Here's one I fixed earlier
:https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
EarlOfHazard said:
The v6 Duratec engine was originally developed by Porsche who then sold to Ford.
I thought that sounded like a cool car fact, but after reading into it there is some truth to that, but unfortunately it is a bit of an exaggeration to say it was originally developed by Porsche. The consensus outside of Ford forums (and WIkipedia) is that the Duratec was originally a Mazda and Suzuki design, which as part of the Ford-Mazda collaboration was available to Ford. Porsche had done some development work to see if the Duratec could be used on Porsche models. Short answer, no it couldn't, but the development work was useful enough that Ford bought it and implemented some of it on there Duratecs.
The Ford Duratec was further developed into the Jaguar AJV6, which was tested in a Mondeo mule car, and the legend is that the Ford engineers in Germany were so impressed at the way the Mondeo chassis handled the greater power of the Jag engine, marketing got involved and the ST220 was born.
Still, I have learned something about the Duratec today.
SebringMan said:
blade7 said:
Would Ford spend thousands repairing a 10 year old Mondeo FOC though...
BMW don't catch the cracks either. My M3 was deemed fit by a dealer on a checkup as are many. Upon pulling down things you could tell it was cracked ; they don't do this. Their inspection is purely visual on face value.donkmeister said:
EarlOfHazard said:
The v6 Duratec engine was originally developed by Porsche who then sold to Ford.
I thought that sounded like a cool car fact, but after reading into it there is some truth to that, but unfortunately it is a bit of an exaggeration to say it was originally developed by Porsche. The consensus outside of Ford forums (and WIkipedia) is that the Duratec was originally a Mazda and Suzuki design, which as part of the Ford-Mazda collaboration was available to Ford. Porsche had done some development work to see if the Duratec could be used on Porsche models. Short answer, no it couldn't, but the development work was useful enough that Ford bought it and implemented some of it on there Duratecs.
The Ford Duratec was further developed into the Jaguar AJV6, which was tested in a Mondeo mule car, and the legend is that the Ford engineers in Germany were so impressed at the way the Mondeo chassis handled the greater power of the Jag engine, marketing got involved and the ST220 was born.
Still, I have learned something about the Duratec today.
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