Police pull over 'two abrest' cyclists - argument ensues
Discussion
yellowjack said:
You can call me all the names under the sun, but we still haven't addressed your staggeringly poorly informed statement...
Many thanks for your blessing.Okay, take the word illegal out of my statement. Is that alright for you?
I still defend the copper. It may not be illegal, but clearly it was a genuine cause for concern. Something doesn't have to be illegal to be dangerous.
culpz said:
Many thanks for your blessing.
Okay, take the word illegal out of my statement. Is that alright for you?
I still defend the copper. It may not be illegal, but clearly it was a genuine cause for concern. Something doesn't have to be illegal to be dangerous.
Do you want a ladder, or a shovel with a longer handle?Okay, take the word illegal out of my statement. Is that alright for you?
I still defend the copper. It may not be illegal, but clearly it was a genuine cause for concern. Something doesn't have to be illegal to be dangerous.
AC43 said:
marky911 said:
Totally agree. I am a cyclist but to be honest the majority of them are self-righteous alpha male wannabes, that are never wrong.
We also get the two abreast riders and chain gangs who expect you to sit at 20/30mph for ages in a 60mph zone. The roads to my village are hilly and twisty with not much distance visible. Move the f
k over.
So yes I'm a cyclist (road cycling) and I know they ride two abreast to try and ensure car drivers wait for a safe gap to pass, but it's still bloody annoying when you're in the car.
Agree with all that, but from a London perspective. I commute through Regents Park on a bike during the week and sometimes drive through it at the weekend.We also get the two abreast riders and chain gangs who expect you to sit at 20/30mph for ages in a 60mph zone. The roads to my village are hilly and twisty with not much distance visible. Move the f
k over. So yes I'm a cyclist (road cycling) and I know they ride two abreast to try and ensure car drivers wait for a safe gap to pass, but it's still bloody annoying when you're in the car.
Sometimes, when in the car, I have to pass groups of Wiggins Wanabees riding three or even four abreast.
They're NOT Wiggins and they're NOT on the TDF.
Please just move over. It's tiresome.
Edited by marky911 on Wednesday 24th May 09:43
ts.... they really are the most try hard of try hards and they have little respect for anyone, even their fellow cyclists. Mr2Mike said:
WinstonWolf said:
And you haven't got a fking clue about physics. Or pretty much anything else going most of the poor driving crap you spout.
What an intelligent and witty rebuttal, your persuasive argument techniques are truly something to behold. king clue about physics. Or pretty much anything else going most of the poor driving crap you spout.
king clue about basic physics...julian64 said:
WinstonWolf said:
cb1965 said:
IroningMan said:
You should be leaving a gap of 1.5m between the near side of your vehicle and the closest cyclist. In the event that the road is too narrow to allow for this then ideally the cyclists will move into single file once they know you're there - but don't be surprised if they don't do so immediately, or if they struggle to get organised quickly on a steep hill, or if they wait until they are certain that it's safe for them for you to overtake.
Odds are that they can see more than you can - they're higher up and don't have any cyclists obstructing their view.
And if they don't get out of your way? Well then they're not being as courteous as they might be. That is all. The odds are pretty good that the next slow-moving road user won't get out of your way in their tractor/caravan/HGV or whatever either. And the odds are also pretty good that you won't get out of the way of the next driver who tailgates you...
Why this whole business is still a 'thing' on a website supposed used by driving enthusiasts baffles me, but never mind: another week and another Police force adopts the Close Pass initiative, so we'll get there in the end.
Ah the fantasy land of the 1.5m gap.... see this in London all the time... they have a hissy fit if you get within a football pitch's width of them and then having given you a stack of abuse shoot through a gap no wider than their bike plus an inch either side between two buses or the likes. They're hypocritical ****s!Odds are that they can see more than you can - they're higher up and don't have any cyclists obstructing their view.
And if they don't get out of your way? Well then they're not being as courteous as they might be. That is all. The odds are pretty good that the next slow-moving road user won't get out of your way in their tractor/caravan/HGV or whatever either. And the odds are also pretty good that you won't get out of the way of the next driver who tailgates you...
Why this whole business is still a 'thing' on a website supposed used by driving enthusiasts baffles me, but never mind: another week and another Police force adopts the Close Pass initiative, so we'll get there in the end.
Edited by IroningMan on Tuesday 23 May 19:58
king clue about physics. Or pretty much anything else going most of the poor driving crap you spout.
remind me again which one of us is an advanced driver, advanced motorcyclist and used to drive 50K miles per year for over a decade.Hint, it's neither of you
yellowjack said:
Contrary to popular belief (on here at least) we cyclists (generally) don't delight in, nor deliberately set out to interrupt, delay, or otherwise interfere with other peoples' journeys.
I think when it is a single cyclist on his own then that is perfectly true. As soon as two or more are cycling together it gets worse. When you get groups of 10's of cyclists together in a peleton, which isn't uncommon on weekends around these parts, they are impossible to pass. Ergo, whether consciously or unconsciously, they are setting out to do something which will clearly interrupt, delay and interfere with people's journeys.spookly said:
yellowjack said:
Contrary to popular belief (on here at least) we cyclists (generally) don't delight in, nor deliberately set out to interrupt, delay, or otherwise interfere with other peoples' journeys.
I think when it is a single cyclist on his own then that is perfectly true. As soon as two or more are cycling together it gets worse. When you get groups of 10's of cyclists together in a peleton, which isn't uncommon on weekends around these parts, they are impossible to pass. Ergo, whether consciously or unconsciously, they are setting out to do something which will clearly interrupt, delay and interfere with people's journeys.The question that should be asked is - WHY do so many people hold that belief.
Just saying! ;-)
WinstonWolf said:
remind me again which one of us is an advanced driver, advanced motorcyclist and used to drive 50K miles per year for over a decade.Hint, it's neither of you
I think you are amply demonstrating why your credentials make absolutely no difference to a car insurance company. Because for every person who does the advanced driver training and learns something, there is at least one of you to balance things
This thread is reaching legend status.
Hol said:
spookly said:
yellowjack said:
Contrary to popular belief (on here at least) we cyclists (generally) don't delight in, nor deliberately set out to interrupt, delay, or otherwise interfere with other peoples' journeys.
I think when it is a single cyclist on his own then that is perfectly true. As soon as two or more are cycling together it gets worse. When you get groups of 10's of cyclists together in a peleton, which isn't uncommon on weekends around these parts, they are impossible to pass. Ergo, whether consciously or unconsciously, they are setting out to do something which will clearly interrupt, delay and interfere with people's journeys.The question that should be asked is - WHY do so many people hold that belief.
Just saying! ;-)
Each to their own, but personally I would be embarrassed to be that cyclist.
Note I said 'some', due to the fact it tends to be one idiot on his own.
WinstonWolf said:
Why bother being polite with idiots? He's obviously not got a fking clue about basic physics...
He has a first class honours degree in Applied Maths and Physics so yes obviously clueless. Now f**k off you nauseous tking clue about basic physics...t!Edited to remove outright hostility, as pointed out below it was a bit harsh even if it was only aimed at you!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th May 14:42
I approached two side by side cyclists the other day but there was a middle lane painted in chevrons (ie, the road was 3 lanes wide with the middle painted)
Despite oncoming traffic, I didn't adjust my speed, 40mph, as I was planning on using the middle bit of the road to pass them. But as I approached, one of the cyclists stared moving towards the middle of the road. WTF? I think he might have heard me and wanted to hinder my progress or something? There was literally about an 8ft wide gap between the two cyclists, I could have got a lorry through that gap but as it went to pass and with me already being in the middle lane, I just missed him by about 18 inches or so.
I looked in the mirror and he was shaking his fist at me, fking helmet head! I think he must have a death wish or something 
Despite oncoming traffic, I didn't adjust my speed, 40mph, as I was planning on using the middle bit of the road to pass them. But as I approached, one of the cyclists stared moving towards the middle of the road. WTF? I think he might have heard me and wanted to hinder my progress or something? There was literally about an 8ft wide gap between the two cyclists, I could have got a lorry through that gap but as it went to pass and with me already being in the middle lane, I just missed him by about 18 inches or so.
I looked in the mirror and he was shaking his fist at me, f
king helmet head! I think he must have a death wish or something Rawwr said:
Why do people keep prefixed 'cyclist' with 'lycra clad'? Can't we just assume it's a given?
It's weird.
Because cyclists who routinely cycle two abreast or more despite long queues of traffic building up behind time are invariably lycra-clad roadies.It's weird.
I'm a cyclist, I cycle several thousand miles a year but I don't ride a road bike, I don't wear lycra and I don't ride two abreast.
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