Car Carpet Calamity

[Wacky Racer]

I don't think anybody is being especially rude, they are just not giving you the answer you wanted to hear....

If the carpet had not been stuck down, the shop are (seemingly) happy to refund you in full, after all they have sold you a dodgy carpet that does not fit like it should do, bearing in mind it is a kit car, not a mass produced one.

If I buy an airfix kit of a Lancaster Bomber I would always offer the pieces up together before applying glue to make sure I have got the right parts in the right place,......... too late after.

I do sympathise though, because £500 is a lot of money.

Maybe the shop will meet you half way as a goodwill gesture?

[nosha123]

Toomany2CVs you are the most obstinate one on here!! yet you can't see it!

why dont you try re-reading your posts

Sarcastic comment no 1: "It's a kitcar, fertheloveofgawd. Variations in tolerance and sizes are to be expected. "Compatible" does imply some work may be required.

Sarcastic comment no2:
According to Consumer Action Law 2000...
"The what?"

Ive never met you and I dont come on here that often (maybe for obvious reasons now!!!!) and came looking for sincere advice...
Several posters her pin this thread have the maturity to realise that some of you are being obstinate and mean...
So clearly Im not the only one thinking you could convey your points in a nicer way

• or maybe you just aren't getting any lately**

To those of you providing advice (even if its advice telling me I haven't much chance!) I thank you... and thanks for being nice in your delivery of it!!!

[nosha123]

Specific thanks to
Nanook
Wacky Racer
Randle Marcus
Insert Coin

Oh and shock horror.. I'm thanking people who gave me advice I didn't perhaps want to hear...

There I go... good grief what now...

Rest of you: try to be a bit nicer to a rare female visitor when she seeks your genuine input... You dont know me or what my life is like and what I could be dealing with

[randlemarcus]

To be fair, it's the internet, nobody knew you were a lady

[TooMany2cvs]

nosha123 said:

Sarcastic comment no 1: "It's a kitcar, fertheloveofgawd. Variations in tolerance and sizes are to be expected. "Compatible" does imply some work may be required.

You call it sarcastic. I call it a simple statement of fact.

A Dax Cobra is a kitcar. The bodyshell is plastic, hand laid in moulds. The size, location, and fit of various internal components that would affect the carpet fit will vary wildly from one car to another. It simply isn't going to be possible to produce a kit of carpet components that can be guaranteed to fit every single Dax Cobra to the millimetre.

The carpet kit is compatible with a Dax Cobra. It's been made to measurements of one car, and probably fit that particular car perfectly. Your car is simply not necessarily the same dimensions... They may well have cut the sections loose, knowing full well that some cars will be smaller in some dimensions than others. TBH, I'd expect somebody who's built a kit to understand this implicitly.

nosha123 said:

Sarcastic comment no2:
According to Consumer Action Law 2000...
"The what?"

Again, not sarcasm.

There is no such thing as the "Consumer Action Law 2000". Not in the UK. The Consumer Rights Act 2015 replaced the Sale of Goods Act 1979.

If you're elsewhere in the world, then there may be such legislation in your country or region, but since a UK-based forum isn't going to understand that, it would probably be wise to refer to a local source of information. Or, at the very minimum, give us all a clue as to where you are.

nosha123 said:

Rest of you: try to be a bit nicer to a rare female visitor when she seeks your genuine input... You dont know me or what my life is like and what I could be dealing with

You're absolutely right.

Which is why I didn't even attempt to second-guess any of that irrelevant guff, and just answered the actual question you asked.

My apologies for not being psychic, and for not taking your entire life into account. <- That, btw, WAS sarcasm.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Wednesday 24th May 15:13

[Shakermaker]

Maybe they sent you the wrong carpet by mistake, which is why it didn't fit?

A load of jumbled up parts might be indistiguishable in the stock room, or someone's put the wrong sticker on the tracking package, which frustratingly has got to you. Happens from time to time, but the retailer sadly has no way of being able to check this, as you threw it away.

[M-SportMatt]

OP is on crack IMO

"I bought a carpet for my car, it wasn't of sufficient quality and didn't fit, but I glued it in anyway then ripped it out and threw it in the bin. Do you think i'd get a refund?"

Er...no, unless you have a significant amount of goodwill with the retailer.

[nosha123]

the parts were from a genuine sealed kit - so I dont think we ended up with something by mistake... and the diagram of contents matched up too.. but it didn't tell you where which piece went.
The parts were not just a few MM out either.. they were utterly and wholly the wrong shapes.... so to use the kit would have ended up looking like a total bodes job of overlapping seams and gaps... We had three people try to work out what went where and all three failed...

It wasn't like trying to do a jigsaw and one piece was slightly the wrong shape... we would have been happy to tweak and adapt it accepting that there are certain tolerances... but more than 50% of the pieces were completely different in shape to the space they were meant to fit...

Unfortunately we simply assumed it WOULD fit - and so started at the front of the car... glueing as we went.. working our way to the back of the car, then finding it all went a bit Pete Tong...

We didn't realise it was a poor grade quality - it was pointed out to us by the Professional who we then employed to do the work again... he said the carpet wouldnt have lasted long and would wear very easily...

There: thats a bit more detail!
Apologies if this level of detail was missing in earlier posts but am at work and was simply popping a quick question on here....

[nosha123]

"Consumer Action Law 2000" was taken from a GOV link I found - so assume it was a government site I was on (Turns out it was ISLE OF MAN)
]
oh and to the last poster

BTW: crack.... nah... Im not

but maybe you should be

might cheer you up

Edited by nosha123 on Wednesday 24th May 15:19

[nosha123]

[quote=TooMany2cvs]
If you're elsewhere in the world, then there may be such legislation in your country or region, but since a UK-based forum isn't going to understand that, it would probably be wise to refer to a local source of information. Or, at the very minimum, give us all a clue as to where you are.


You do know right that you can actually MOUSE CLICK on someones 'handle' and it tells you what country they are in!
Obviously not

[Shakermaker]

nosha123 said:

the parts were from a genuine sealed kit - so I dont think we ended up with something by mistake... and the diagram of contents matched up too.. but it didn't tell you where which piece went.
The parts were not just a few MM out either.. they were utterly and wholly the wrong shapes.... so to use the kit would have ended up looking like a total bodes job of overlapping seams and gaps... We had three people try to work out what went where and all three failed...

It wasn't like trying to do a jigsaw and one piece was slightly the wrong shape... we would have been happy to tweak and adapt it accepting that there are certain tolerances... but more than 50% of the pieces were completely different in shape to the space they were meant to fit...

Unfortunately we simply assumed it WOULD fit - and so started at the front of the car... glueing as we went.. working our way to the back of the car, then finding it all went a bit Pete Tong...

We didn't realise it was a poor grade quality - it was pointed out to us by the Professional who we then employed to do the work again... he said the carpet wouldnt have lasted long and would wear very easily...

There: thats a bit more detail!
Apologies if this level of detail was missing in earlier posts but am at work and was simply popping a quick question on here....

Its still possible you got the wrong kit in this situation, wrong instructions put into the bag perhaps - which would be an (expensive) error for the manufacturer to have made, but I expect the supplier will be a small workshop where most of it is all done manually, rather than automated machines where everything comes together and tolerances/errors are kept to a minimum.

Quite often the new supplied bits will be over-sized by some margin to allow for tolerances by virtue of the fact that it is a kit car, which isn't the same shape every time it is put together.

I share your frustration, but I don't know why you have thrown it away if you wanted the original seller to refund you.

[TooMany2cvs]

nosha123 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

If you're elsewhere in the world, then there may be such legislation in your country or region, but since a UK-based forum isn't going to understand that, it would probably be wise to refer to a local source of information. Or, at the very minimum, give us all a clue as to where you are.

You do know right that you can actually MOUSE CLICK on someones 'handle' and it tells you what country they are in!
Obviously not

If they've filled that detail in on their profile. In your case, it says "United Kingdom".

Keep digging.

[foxoles]

Shakermaker said:

I share your frustration, but I don't know why you have thrown it away if you wanted the original seller to refund you.

This. You have to give them something back - even if knackered and used as evidence of non use or selling on.

[Sheepshanks]

nosha123 said:

female

In that case your stance is even more surprising - you'll know better than the blokes that it's normal drill to return an item if you want a refund.

[M-SportMatt]

nosha123 said:

"Consumer Action Law 2000" was taken from a GOV link I found - so assume it was a government site I was on (Turns out it was ISLE OF MAN)
]
oh and to the last poster

BTW: crack.... nah... Im not

but maybe you should be

might cheer you up

Edited by nosha123 on Wednesday 24th May 15:19

Perfectly cheerful thanks

Put yourself in the shop's position, maybe the carpets were faulty and didn't fit etc but if you don't return it they have nothing to send back to the manufacturer to get their money back. It's not their fault you didn't check it fitted before glueing is it?

If you and/or a professional started glueing it in before checking it all fitted then really, i suggest you get a proper pro to check the car out if you've built it yourself as if you make such a balls up of 'fitting' a carpet, god knows what else you've done.

Stupid is as stupid does

[triathlonstu]

nosha123 said:

You dont know me or what my life is like and what I could be dealing with

Sounds like you're dealing with the fallout from not hanging onto a carpet.

[nosha123]

TooMany2cvs said:

If they've filled that detail in on their profile. In your case, it says "United Kingdom".

Keep digging.

I suggest it it you that digs.. or perhaps at least READS WHAT IS INFRONT OF THEM.

Your point was that this is a" UK-based forum" and you were asking for additional information as to where I was located... yet when you clicked you found the answer out all by your clever little self.
Clap clap round of applause

Apologies if it made you feel stupid.. by pointing out the somewhat obvious...

So yes... I am based in the UK... that stands for United Kingdom...

Maybe you should have a little lie down now after all that hard work your brain has done today!!!

[nosha123]

M-SportMatt said:

i suggest you get a proper pro to check the car out if you've built it yourself as if you make such a balls up of 'fitting' a carpet, god knows what else you've done.

Stupid is as stupid does

oh look at you - so witty amongst all your little macho friends here.

I'll try not to turn your head as I whizz by in our stunning Dax Cobra... you'll find it hard not to notice as I doubt you will ever have seen one quite as impressive as ours... and built all by our own stupid hands!!!! Oh how we will laugh at your surprised little face

We didn't "balls up" fitting the carpet (so eloquently put Sir!)... the carpet was the wrong shape.
Obviously you have never made a mistake in your entire life and always expect and receive perfect goods from perfect retailers and have never received a shoddy product or shoddy service.

We made the mistake of fitting the kit from the outset and the carpet installer threw the old kit away...
I wont make the mistake of ever coming here again for legitimate polite advice.. as clearly its the wrong place to come.

[lucido grigio]

This IS going well......

[OddCat]

Nice example of alliteration in the thread title

Could have been:

Sportscar Shagpile ststorm