RE: Jaguar XE Project 8 confirmed

RE: Jaguar XE Project 8 confirmed

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Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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kambites said:
Krikkit said:
It should do as the V6 and V8 are a shared block - physically their external dimensions are the same. They've got to have a beefier gearbox and diff, but the engine bay should fit.
IIRC it's a shared crank-case; different block and obviously different heads. The question is whether the engine will need to be pushed forwards to get the extra height in at the back of the engine bay, and if it does whether there's enough bonnet clearance for the front of the heads to meet pedestrian safety regs.

Plus of course the cooling requirements will vary significantly between the V6 and V8.
Well, they're internally different, but externally the dimensions are the same for the V6 and V8.

ETA: Bit more detail: http://blog.caranddriver.com/block-party-creating-...

As you've noted the heads are a bit trickier, so a plug change might be harder work than the V6, but they wouldn't have to completely re-engineer the chassis to fit the V8.

Cooling would probably be the most difficult bit, but I'm sure not insurmountable. If Aston can get the V12V to work, I'm sure SVR can get this working. smile



Edited by Krikkit on Friday 26th May 10:10

epom

11,550 posts

162 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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I know, I know its hardcore and that's why it has it, but hopefully that spoiler will be a delete option. Other than that, oh yeah !!

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Good call Jaaaaaaaaaag.

lukeharding

2,948 posts

90 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Exactly what I was hoping for the other week, this should be epic

robinessex

11,065 posts

182 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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All sold yet !!!!

Monty Python

4,812 posts

198 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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kambites said:
If that engine fits without significant modification to the bodywork, you've got to imagine that we'll see a mainstream M3-chasing V8 XE at some point.
They managed 567bhp in the F-Type Project 7 so I don't see space in the engine bay being an issue.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Vee12V said:
The flared wheel arches finally give the XE some personality.
yes

Those arches look great and enhance an otherwise meh car.

Vocht

1,631 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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This makes me happy.

Dr G

15,197 posts

243 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Jalopnik says four wheel drive and 300 to be built:

http://jalopnik.com/jaguar-turned-its-smallest-car...

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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MrBarry123 said:
Vee12V said:
The flared wheel arches finally give the XE some personality.
yes

Those arches look great and enhance an otherwise meh car.
If they're aluminium (as opposed to CF for example) then you'd have to assume they'll be planning to use the tooling for a slightly less potent mass market SVR alike.

If they're CF the moulds are much much cheaper (although per part price is obviously higher)

Having said that I don't see how they can flair the rear arches like that without aluminium panels.

jayemdoubleu

54 posts

91 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Article said:
The only other number firmed up for now is the production: Jaguar will make just 300 XE Project 8s, designed for "enthusiasts and the most discerning collectors" across the globe. As such expect the price to be beyond the conventional rivals, particularly with the car being hand assembled at the SVO Technical Centre
Sounds almost Porsche-like in how they intend to sell it. Better start making friends with the manager at your local Jaguar dealership, or you may find yourself judged unworthy to buy one.

SturdyHSV

10,099 posts

168 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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So this 4WD automatic 4 dour saloon is the most extreme performance Jaguar ever?







Is it though? Is it really?


Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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base model + 600bhp.

I like the thinking, They can offset costs by doing same to the F pace ( 600bhp SUV) which will bring in the $$.

Great idea but has to be the common mans Jag and not too expensive. Or more expensive, Or not extremely expensive.

I think it might end up too expensive and invalidate the good idea, maybe I am wrong though.

Tricky juggling act all these niches as might impact on another car in the range.


ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Awesome. Out of my reach, but looking forward to hearing it thunder up the hill at Goodwood in a few weeks.

havoc

30,090 posts

236 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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SturdyHSV said:
So this 4WD automatic 4 dour saloon is the most extreme performance Jaguar ever?







Is it though? Is it really?
I do love how Jaguar can do no wrong in the British motoring press... hehe


Still...it DOES sound like the sort of silliness that we need to support...

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

184 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Maybe the SVR will see the 510hp version under the hood?
scratchchin

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Here's a video for the car

Sounds the same as a F type V8

https://twitter.com/jaguaruk/status/86808101758378...

swisstoni

17,035 posts

280 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Now we're talking.
The XE is such a 40watt car - this won't be able to have that said about it.

legless

1,693 posts

141 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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kambites said:
That's a bit like saying the engine in the 911 is 50 years old. It's a continuation of the same family but it's not the same engine.
I was on the AJ133 (5.0) development team. The only parts carried over from the previous 4.2 were the cylinder head bolts and the exhaust tappets. Everything else was a new design.

At the time (2009) we had to rein it in massively so that the input torque didn't overwhelm the ZF 6-speed box. The engine design's got plenty of headroom in it.

Hammerhead

2,701 posts

255 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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I've not had the pleasure of driving a SC 5.0, but I loved the standard 5.0 in my XK. 385 horses was more than enough for me, and it sounded great. These 500-600bhp units must be terrific.