Is it time to ban overtaking?
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I got out on a bike earlier. Not so in shape at the moment! But, car did do a pointless overtake in a very slightly risky manner (blind corner ahead) in a 30 zone. Not exactly a huge issue, I've seen far worse as a cyclist.
What was funny was the traffic conditions ahead meant I caught up. Indeed, we took the same downhill stretch, and, had it not been for the parked cars, I may even have considered a cheeky overtake! It's easy to go over 30 down there on my MTB. This bike is a road bike...
But, I don't get why a cyclist would ride up your chuff. After all, they're the ones that are going to get hurt! Surely keeping pace at a respectable distance, so that the driver can actually see you, would be a far stronger message.
And as for a car pulling a safe overtake, road conditions ahead are a lottery. Sometimes, you win. If it's safe, that makes overtaking worthwhile. If it's not, then nothing is worth risking not only your life, but the lives of others.
What was funny was the traffic conditions ahead meant I caught up. Indeed, we took the same downhill stretch, and, had it not been for the parked cars, I may even have considered a cheeky overtake! It's easy to go over 30 down there on my MTB. This bike is a road bike...
But, I don't get why a cyclist would ride up your chuff. After all, they're the ones that are going to get hurt! Surely keeping pace at a respectable distance, so that the driver can actually see you, would be a far stronger message.
And as for a car pulling a safe overtake, road conditions ahead are a lottery. Sometimes, you win. If it's safe, that makes overtaking worthwhile. If it's not, then nothing is worth risking not only your life, but the lives of others.
havoc said:
One interesting observation - they go into a 30-limit and it appears that the speed of the dashcam-car didn't really reduce.
So either he was doing c.30 in a (purported*) 40, or he continued doing 40 in the 30! Can we have a show of hands as to what sort of driving we think is more dangerous?!?
* Freeze it just after the frame-rate accelerates - hard to be sure but looks like the repeater-pole on the left below the triangle says "50" - dashcam man may well be a liar!
40 is the maximum anyone is allowed to do along there. On that stretch there are plenty of hazards, i.e. something like: a sign for a double bend, a sign for a junction, the word "SLOW" painted in the road twice, signs for sharp deviation, and many farm entrances. You wouldn't expect a continuous 40 surely? Less than 40 is appropriate.So either he was doing c.30 in a (purported*) 40, or he continued doing 40 in the 30! Can we have a show of hands as to what sort of driving we think is more dangerous?!?
* Freeze it just after the frame-rate accelerates - hard to be sure but looks like the repeater-pole on the left below the triangle says "50" - dashcam man may well be a liar!
Johnnytheboy said:
g7jhp said:
b) User name M4Cruiser - hope that's the inside lane and not the middle
Have a look at his posting history - IIRC he's quite the MLM...The road on the film is a cross country route to the main arterial roads, where I was happy to cruise along once I'd reached them.
Yes, as someone said above, the Audi man probably knew the road better than me, he seems to live locally, so shall I go and change the signs to "40 except for those that know the road".
M4cruiser said:
40 is the maximum anyone is allowed to do along there. On that stretch there are plenty of hazards, i.e. something like: a sign for a double bend, a sign for a junction, the word "SLOW" painted in the road twice, signs for sharp deviation, and many farm entrances. You wouldn't expect a continuous 40 surely? Less than 40 is appropriate.
Maybe they should ban speeding instead?g3org3y said:
M4cruiser said:
Have you considered that the public roads are for transport, and if you want to have fun playing with other people's safety then you should go to a track at weekends or something! On the roads you are mixing with all sorts of drivers, from expert to completely incompetent.
You are Singlecoil AICMFP.Johnnytheboy four years ago said:
I never cease to be amazed by the minority of people on PH that rack up huge post counts on a forum whose group ethos seems to be at odds with their entire world view.
Haven't changed my mind since...Rawwr said:
C.A.R. said:
It must've hurt. You could see the imprint of his front tyre and face on the dirt on the boot lid / bumper.
Ignoring the context for a moment; this is one the greatest sentences ever typed on Pistonheads.
Integroo said:
havoc said:
Strudul said:
M4cruiser said:
This is an example of what I've been going on about. Audi exceeds the speed limit by about 50%, but given the road network ahead he gains very little by taking that risk and burning the extra fuel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkyzwWPIiA
Have you considered that some people don't overtake to save time or fuel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkyzwWPIiA
Personally I just enjoy overtaking and much prefer driving with nobody in front of me dictating my speed.
M4cruiser said:
That would take some doing ... the A34 doesn't have a middle lane!
The road on the film is a cross country route to the main arterial roads, where I was happy to cruise along once I'd reached them.
Yes, as someone said above, the Audi man probably knew the road better than me, he seems to live locally, so shall I go and change the signs to "40 except for those that know the road".
Credit where it is due OP - you may type total garbage (and be on probably the most unsuitable motoring related forum possible given what you type) but you are truly persistent! The road on the film is a cross country route to the main arterial roads, where I was happy to cruise along once I'd reached them.
Yes, as someone said above, the Audi man probably knew the road better than me, he seems to live locally, so shall I go and change the signs to "40 except for those that know the road".
But this thread is now on 17 pages and I think you have made your point often enough and had it refuted far more often than is necessary to determine that you are in a minority of about 1.
It is obvious you have no interest in cars or driving but you must surely have one or two interests - why not go and spend some time on a forum dedicated to them and do us all a favour? PLEASE.
Debaser said:
M4cruiser said:
40 is the maximum anyone is allowed to do along there. On that stretch there are plenty of hazards, i.e. something like: a sign for a double bend, a sign for a junction, the word "SLOW" painted in the road twice, signs for sharp deviation, and many farm entrances. You wouldn't expect a continuous 40 surely? Less than 40 is appropriate.
Maybe they should ban speeding instead?
caelite said:
Debaser said:
M4cruiser said:
40 is the maximum anyone is allowed to do along there. On that stretch there are plenty of hazards, i.e. something like: a sign for a double bend, a sign for a junction, the word "SLOW" painted in the road twice, signs for sharp deviation, and many farm entrances. You wouldn't expect a continuous 40 surely? Less than 40 is appropriate.
Maybe they should ban speeding instead?B*llocks to a 40 maximum though - 40 is obviously the absolute bare minimum speed required if that is the signed limit! All the OP refers to are signs for hazards, not actual hazards.......Speed Matters!!
M4cruiser said:
This is an example of what I've been going on about. Audi exceeds the speed limit by about 50%, but given the road network ahead he gains very little by taking that risk and burning the extra fuel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkyzwWPIiA
this should really rustle your jimmies then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkyzwWPIiA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
plenty of safe overtaking even at 140+ - the solution isn't to ban overtaking, it's to create a single direction loop road around the country and remove the speed limit
S. Gonzales Esq. said:
What I'd really like is for dashcam guy to upload a compilation of all the times he's been overtaken and never seen the overtaker again...
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Ok then, here's one. Let's see how many people think this Yaris's overtake was safe and legal. (It was illegal and unsafe.) .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseMDIMoQkE
The visibility to the right is poor, and there was something coming, and I think it slowed when it saw the Yaris.
Edited by M4cruiser on Wednesday 19th July 19:20
Edited by M4cruiser on Wednesday 19th July 19:57
ts who stop at rounabouts needlessly. You get overtaken because you are a nuisance. And rightly so.M4cruiser said:
Ok then, here's one. Let's see how many people think this Yaris's overtake was safe and legal. (It was illegal and unsafe.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDzoXiGSy4
The visibility to the right is poor, and there was something coming, and I think it slowed when it saw the Yaris.
wakey wakey, the roundabout is clear...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDzoXiGSy4
The visibility to the right is poor, and there was something coming, and I think it slowed when it saw the Yaris.
Edited by M4cruiser on Wednesday 19th July 19:20
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