Is it time to ban overtaking?
Discussion
Solocle said:
cb1965 said:
I think overtaking should be banned for people who own cars with less than 300bhp. For the rest of us we should be allowed to do whatever we like 
I've pulled off quite a few overtakes (including 1 double) in my 60 bhp Citigo. Don't condemn me to the road behind 40 mph hogs!Overtaking, when carried out safely, is perfectly fine. The problem is, a lot of people do it at the worse possible time; blind crest, corner etc. The odd trend that many drivers seem to get angry when overtaken though is baffling.
Saw a BMW overtake a merc on a 60 at the weekend, the merc was sitting at 35, not a good speed for a 60. He had been sitting at 35 for at least 2 minutes on this road. As soon as the BMW overtook him; in a perfectly safe part of the road, the merc banged on the accelerator and tail gated. I imagine with flashing lights too. The merc then navigated the next 3 roundabouts without so much as an indicator flashing.
It's utterly self centred to sit at 30-40 on a NSL. Just because you have time to dilly-dally, doesn't mean everybody behind you does. Most people that sit at these speeds, think that anybody that overtakes them in a wannabe rally driver.
Now, on the flip side. I see people every day sitting at 30~ in a 30. And some idiot, normally in an SUV, will be right up their backside trying to goad them into going faster. If the first car doesn't take the bait, the following car will race by them at 50~ and be waiting for them at the next red light. a 30 is the one place I refuse to do any more than the speed limit.
Saw a BMW overtake a merc on a 60 at the weekend, the merc was sitting at 35, not a good speed for a 60. He had been sitting at 35 for at least 2 minutes on this road. As soon as the BMW overtook him; in a perfectly safe part of the road, the merc banged on the accelerator and tail gated. I imagine with flashing lights too. The merc then navigated the next 3 roundabouts without so much as an indicator flashing.
It's utterly self centred to sit at 30-40 on a NSL. Just because you have time to dilly-dally, doesn't mean everybody behind you does. Most people that sit at these speeds, think that anybody that overtakes them in a wannabe rally driver.
Now, on the flip side. I see people every day sitting at 30~ in a 30. And some idiot, normally in an SUV, will be right up their backside trying to goad them into going faster. If the first car doesn't take the bait, the following car will race by them at 50~ and be waiting for them at the next red light. a 30 is the one place I refuse to do any more than the speed limit.
Edited by Jonno02 on Monday 29th May 09:43
I'd say you're trolling, but your OP reads far too seriously.
Are you for actual real?! As others say, we don't all live around crowded roads. Check out the A616 Ollerton - Newark, not far from me. I won't say what speed I've seen down there, but it's a beautifully engineered fast (usually) quiet road. However, where ever you go nowadays there is usually some old toilet/nervous/do-gooder/MPG warrior doing 40mph, as if they consider that is making acceptable progress. These same idiots sometimes flash you if you overtake, like your driving is the problem!
It is only going to get worse with the continuous war on speed, but until cars become fully autonomous I'm going to continue the rights given to dispatch dawdling - often dangerously so - morons in to my mirror, where safe to do so.
Get your coat on the way out.
Are you for actual real?! As others say, we don't all live around crowded roads. Check out the A616 Ollerton - Newark, not far from me. I won't say what speed I've seen down there, but it's a beautifully engineered fast (usually) quiet road. However, where ever you go nowadays there is usually some old toilet/nervous/do-gooder/MPG warrior doing 40mph, as if they consider that is making acceptable progress. These same idiots sometimes flash you if you overtake, like your driving is the problem!
It is only going to get worse with the continuous war on speed, but until cars become fully autonomous I'm going to continue the rights given to dispatch dawdling - often dangerously so - morons in to my mirror, where safe to do so.
Get your coat on the way out.
Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Monday 29th May 09:59
Trabi601 said:
Solocle said:
cb1965 said:
I think overtaking should be banned for people who own cars with less than 300bhp. For the rest of us we should be allowed to do whatever we like
I've pulled off quite a few overtakes (including 1 double) in my 60 bhp Citigo. Don't condemn me to the road behind 40 mph hogs!Jonno02 said:
It's utterly self centred to sit at 30-40 on a NSL. Just because you have time to dilly-dally, doesn't mean everybody behind you does.
Wrong - I'll (occasionally) happily dawdle at 40 in an NSL, but I'll also try and make room when there's something approaching in a hurry brrapp said:
Yiliterate said:
Well, maybe I'm a little more simplistic in my thinking than most on here, but my first thought on reading the original post was, "Oooh look...that blue one's a Cobra!!! Go on son, give it the beans!!!!"
Is the red one an Elise? If so, why is it only doing 40mph?
NO WAY YOU FRUIT LOOP!!
[quote=Mr Tidy]
I came home from Cheshire last week, just over 200 miles. So at 40mph it would have taken 5 hours. But I averaged about 60mph so was home in just over 3 hours.
/quote]
Mr Tidy, Was that 200 miles really all on single lane roads?
I'm not suggesting you should do 40 in a 70 limit if you can do 70!
How much would you have really lost if you just didn't overtake the 40mph people in a 60 limit?
I came home from Cheshire last week, just over 200 miles. So at 40mph it would have taken 5 hours. But I averaged about 60mph so was home in just over 3 hours.
/quote]
Mr Tidy, Was that 200 miles really all on single lane roads?
I'm not suggesting you should do 40 in a 70 limit if you can do 70!
How much would you have really lost if you just didn't overtake the 40mph people in a 60 limit?
brrapp said:
Trabi601 said:
Solocle said:
cb1965 said:
I think overtaking should be banned for people who own cars with less than 300bhp. For the rest of us we should be allowed to do whatever we like
I've pulled off quite a few overtakes (including 1 double) in my 60 bhp Citigo. Don't condemn me to the road behind 40 mph hogs!Matthen said:
SidewaysSi said:
Mike335i said:
limpsfield said:
Anyone who goes to the trouble of specifying their Toyota avensis is an auto in their profile is a bit odd in my book, OP
Anyone who chooses a Toyota Avensis Automatic is odd in my book. They are not exactly desirable hahaSo probably far more desirable than you think.
Perhaps that is why the OP wants overtaking banned.
.. but I do use the manual override a lot anyway.irocfan said:
Wrong - I'll (occasionally) happily dawdle at 40 in an NSL, but I'll also try and make room when there's something approaching in a hurry
I actually meant to add another part to my post, we're all guilty of doing it now and again. I've caught myself in a day dream sitting at the dreaded 45 on a NSL. But if I see someone bearing down on me, I snap out of it. But because you may be happy to dawdle at 40, doesn't mean everybody behind you is, so I don't see how sitting at 40 on a NSL isn't selfish. Making as much room as you can though is very helpful, something most drivers aren't bothered about. The road I'm most infuriated by has 2 housing estates join it. Mine and another. When I pull onto the 60, I get to 60. But so many other people pull out of the estate further up, when they definitely should not have pulled onto the road, causing hard braking... but then sit at 30-40 and make no effort to speed up.
Trabi601 said:
Solocle said:
cb1965 said:
I think overtaking should be banned for people who own cars with less than 300bhp. For the rest of us we should be allowed to do whatever we like
I've pulled off quite a few overtakes (including 1 double) in my 60 bhp Citigo. Don't condemn me to the road behind 40 mph hogs!It didn't bloody go for it. I ended up taking the opportunity to sod off, the asthmatic 110bhp (when new!) lump in a rather heavy... lump... getting me to a glorious 70 mph before I had to cross back over the lines.
You get really good at planning overtakes when your car has no spuds. The amount of times I've had to sigh wistfully and wish I had a car with teeth... (I need a huge car for my SWMBO's electric wheelchair. I've got ratchet straps for the chair so it won't fly about in the boot... what's a big car - chair won't fit into a V70, roofline is too low - with enough power to make overtaking trivial?)
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