RE: BMW M8 confirmed
Discussion
GTEYE said:
Ninja59 said:
GTEYE said:
But this the new 6 Series...but now it has the badge to match the price tag.
Will still fall in value faster than brick off a cliff I expect...
Really? I know of no one who ordered a 6 series new that paid anywhere near list, even despite being in a twilight area the 6 has been more heavily discounted then many other models in the BMW range (and equally one of the slowest selling). What many at least at where I got my 6 can understand is trying to sell the 5GT as a 6GT and no Gran Coupe replacement on the horizon. Will still fall in value faster than brick off a cliff I expect...
The depreciation as an owner is not really that bad in reality as most of it is being solely judged on the cars silly list price. Heck, even now the 6 series cab is more on list than the a base 7 series.
A quick search on Autotrader: 640d M Sport 2016/16 - less than 6k miles, and £36k from a BMW main dealer.
Now I'm sure you're looking at nearly £75k list for a new one with some extras, so unless BMW are discounting by £40k, which I really doubt, I'd say they are continuing to shed value pretty quickly....
All the big show boats haemorrhage money... The AMG S Class Coupe fairs little better.
The M8 will be focused more on the driving experience than wafting Merc style.
Edited by HighwayStar on Tuesday 30th May 15:59
HighwayStar said:
The very point he was making is that there is the list price and then there is Thee actual price paid. Of course it's not going to be discounted by £40k either but it would be a fair bit less than 75 to put it on the drive.... and then there is financing for a few years and handing it back!
All the big show boats haemorrhage money... The AMG S Class Coupe fairs little better.
The M8 will be focused more on the driving experience than wafting Merc style.
Currently the online offers are 640D M Sport Coupe £519 + £10679, 0% APR for 48 months...All the big show boats haemorrhage money... The AMG S Class Coupe fairs little better.
The M8 will be focused more on the driving experience than wafting Merc style.
Edited by HighwayStar on Tuesday 30th May 15:59
6GC is a little cheaper £519 + £10469, 0% APR for 48 months
That is without asking for discount!
This also illustrates the problem for the AUC cars, as the new builds tend to be cheaper on finance...
PhantomPH said:
clonmult said:
PhantomPH said:
Expect a £140k price tag and depreciation like a stone. 
As long as it doesn't depreciate like the Z8 .... which strikes me as being unlikely. I was absolutely floored by the pricing of the Z8.Wonder if BMW will let you spec it with the B&W camo colour scheme?
IMO it's very much aligned with the S63 coupe and will perform as such in value terms.
DodoRacing said:
PhantomPH said:
clonmult said:
PhantomPH said:
Expect a £140k price tag and depreciation like a stone.
As long as it doesn't depreciate like the Z8 .... which strikes me as being unlikely. I was absolutely floored by the pricing of the Z8.Wonder if BMW will let you spec it with the B&W camo colour scheme?
IMO it's very much aligned with the S63 coupe and will perform as such in value terms.
Woah there, wait a minute... BMW named an engine series after a sporty Mercedes? I thought someone had a brain-fart earlier talking about an S63 engine like they'd got their German brands mixed up temporarily. Nope, BMW have a series of engines called S63... Well I never.
M8 - yup, looks good, even if the name is txt-spk. I second the need for a TT V12 unless BMW are prepared to accept that their halo car will be playing second fiddle to the S65 before it's even released. Super-saloons have V8s (rarely V10s), epic GT wafters have V12s. Them's the rules.
M8 - yup, looks good, even if the name is txt-spk. I second the need for a TT V12 unless BMW are prepared to accept that their halo car will be playing second fiddle to the S65 before it's even released. Super-saloons have V8s (rarely V10s), epic GT wafters have V12s. Them's the rules.
donkmeister said:
Woah there, wait a minute... BMW named an engine series after a sporty Mercedes? I thought someone had a brain-fart earlier talking about an S63 engine like they'd got their German brands mixed up temporarily. Nope, BMW have a series of engines called S63... Well I never.
M8 - yup, looks good, even if the name is txt-spk. I second the need for a TT V12 unless BMW are prepared to accept that their halo car will be playing second fiddle to the S65 before it's even released. Super-saloons have V8s (rarely V10s), epic GT wafters have V12s. Them's the rules.
Having listened to the online video of the M8, it definitely did not sound like a V12 to my ears, and nearly all reports show it being the V8. Even most are saying BMW is "only" targeting the Mercedes S63, not the S65, Bentley Conti V8 and others of that ilk.M8 - yup, looks good, even if the name is txt-spk. I second the need for a TT V12 unless BMW are prepared to accept that their halo car will be playing second fiddle to the S65 before it's even released. Super-saloons have V8s (rarely V10s), epic GT wafters have V12s. Them's the rules.
I think in time with a few upgrades the M8 V8 (if it is a V8) then I think it could make up the difference in power to the S65 as there is not actually a lot of difference in output. I almost suspect Mercedes have "pegged" the power back on the S63 to justify the need of the S65.
PHMatt said:
If the M8 is produced in small enough numbers it won't depreciate.
Haven't you learned from the M1 and 1M Coupe?
Surely an M8 deserves a limited run to make it special rather than mass production.
Doubt it nearly all "standard" M cars are rarely limited edition, they then exploit it by releasing something with more power and bits and vast marketing behind it....Haven't you learned from the M1 and 1M Coupe?
Surely an M8 deserves a limited run to make it special rather than mass production.
M4->M4 CP->M4CS->M4 GTS (& DTM version as well)
Same was done with the M5...and the numerous special editions.
king sNinja59 said:
PHMatt said:
If the M8 is produced in small enough numbers it won't depreciate.
Haven't you learned from the M1 and 1M Coupe?
Surely an M8 deserves a limited run to make it special rather than mass production.
Doubt it nearly all "standard" M cars are rarely limited edition, they then exploit it by releasing something with more power and bits and vast marketing behind it....Haven't you learned from the M1 and 1M Coupe?
Surely an M8 deserves a limited run to make it special rather than mass production.
M4->M4 CP->M4CS->M4 GTS (& DTM version as well)
Same was done with the M5...and the numerous special editions.
Have a limited run of under 1k cars and they'll be bullet proof investments.
An investment I'd have to sell my house for. Which I would if the wife let me
jonby said:
If it launched as the concept car minus a couple of legality issues such as the mirrors, I think they would have a sure fire winner based on looks alone but the camo test car does look a lot more understated than the concept
Eh... the camo test car is covered in guess what, false panels hiding hiding its true look. Camouflage! We'll have to wait another 3-5 months for the full reveal.DodoRacing said:
PhantomPH said:
clonmult said:
PhantomPH said:
Expect a £140k price tag and depreciation like a stone.
As long as it doesn't depreciate like the Z8 .... which strikes me as being unlikely. I was absolutely floored by the pricing of the Z8.Wonder if BMW will let you spec it with the B&W camo colour scheme?
IMO it's very much aligned with the S63 coupe and will perform as such in value terms.
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