RE: BMW M4 CS: Driven

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D200

514 posts

148 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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British Beef said:
FOOK ME BMW, are you now in direct competition with Porsche to try and identify which gullible bastuards on this planet you can convince to lighten their wallet by the most amount of money for adding the least amount of "improvement" to base car?

Some will call this good value, for the engineering expertise that goes into this CS edition.

Me, an ECU tune, some carbon fibre bits which saves the weight of a good porcelin bashing session by the driver, and some wheels and mild suspension tuning, and for this bmw want to charge £30k odd, to what is ultimately based on one of the most common sights on british roads a 3/4 series!!! Staggering, but people buying this ste, along with the GTS versions!!!!
Is everyone here complete fooking idiots?

Its not just BMW & Porsche -its everyone inc Audi, Mercedes, Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren, Lexus, Lotus even VW and Ford etc etc

McLaren will charge you near 3k for 'Branded Carbon Fibre Sill Panels with Brand Logo' or 360 quid for an allow oil cap

Every new premium or performance car now are expensive and the take the hand with pricing - not just BMW and Porsche - its the new thing, over charge for everything, people love it

Refer to my 2 other posts

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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D200 said:
The PH comments sections is 100% predicable - it’s the exact same for every single article on the site.

99% [not all – just the 99% - 1% are reasonable/sensible] of posts are idiotic stating the bleeding obvious dumb as fook comments and 99% [again not all – just the 99% - 1% are reasonable/sensible] of people posting are complete and utter know-it-all knobs who are actually just full of s h I t, talking s h i t and just stating their own dumb blinkered opinion that the people who purchase these cars or are considering purchasing couldn’t give a flying fook about.

To save everyone time here is a comment that can be used for every single pistonhead article:

”That car is too slow, too fast, too heavy, too expensive, too ugly, looks same as a diesel, wheels too big, wheels too small, no steering feel, that manufacturer hasn’t made a good car since 1983, doesn’t sound good, fake sound, turbo, I will never buy from this manufacturer again, you can buy a better used car for less, will depreciate massively and so on”

When I say every single article I mean every article – the same crap said in every BMW, Porsche etc etc article or review … Blah blah blah
But you still feel the need to post your view, so are you in the 1% or 99%?

IainR

71 posts

182 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Just don't get this 'standard car is rubbish' thing. Had a 2015 manual M3 for 2 and a bit years now and it's great. Very fast. A bit lairy (in a fun way). Looks great. Practical. Had / have 2 x E46 M3 manuals, a 996 Turbo and now a GT4 and the standard F80 M3 stands comparison. IMO.

nicherotors

2 posts

169 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Agree with the view that all premium manufactures have gone the same way - as the rich have got a lot richer in the last few years there is always a market for these limited editions.

In fact, the economists have even given the phenomenon a label for these luxury goods : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Raramuri said:
GranCab said:
2017 pre-regd. M4s with Competition Pack for sale @ Sytner's from £55,000 .....
Whilst undeniably a great saving on list price, to me £55k still seems bonkers for fast 3 series let alone £89k!! Am I alone on this?

I know the new vs. old comparisons come up on most threads, but new/warranty etc. or not I would struggle to walk past some really very special older metal to spunk my money on this.
My E92 M3 was £55k new 9 years ago...and worth every damn penny. One of the best all round cars available.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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What is the market like for the 'rubbish' non competition pack early M4 cars?


whp1983

1,174 posts

140 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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A bargain compared to some M4s though!

981C

1,097 posts

149 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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How many of these perceived improvements are due to the tyres?

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Putting cost aside, in this blue colour with the alloys and stance, this looks ruddy brilliant imo.

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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There are some proper, proper dumb ass comments on here, shouldn't really be surprised, after all this is PH

Wake up goons, 2017, cars are expensive and most likely anyone who buys one won't go near an old Ferrari or already has a nice selection of metal.

Vocht

1,631 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Muhtanti said:
First M4 then M4 GTS (super limited and special) then the M4 CS (super and special) and in the future probably the M4 C (like the normal M4 but in the special limited colors from the CS) and then on top the final more special more limited extra M4 CSL. When will this limited bullst end? They turn the turbos a bit up to generate more power and that's it.
Don't forget the M4 GT4 you can now buy from BMW (For $190,000!)


Turbo-Dan

69 posts

95 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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I don't see why such a fuss is made when a manufacturer makes a car like this and asks a premium for it. They must have a business case to make cars like this, yes some people buy them for the wrong reasons but others will buy them and enjoy them, and I'm thankful they make cars like this! They could all start making nothing but eco boxes and still survive just fine not producing the cars for enthusiasts like us (the minority).
I'll take a grey one. Ta

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Vocht said:
Muhtanti said:
First M4 then M4 GTS (super limited and special) then the M4 CS (super and special) and in the future probably the M4 C (like the normal M4 but in the special limited colors from the CS) and then on top the final more special more limited extra M4 CSL. When will this limited bullst end? They turn the turbos a bit up to generate more power and that's it.
Don't forget the M4 GT4 you can now buy from BMW (For $190,000!)

Hardly valid....its a racing car.

stevie777777

127 posts

176 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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I am sure it will be a great car, but it won't beat my E46 M3 CS in interlagos blue for exclusivity & still gets favourable attention at nearly 12 years old 😀

ess

791 posts

179 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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British Beef said:
FOOK ME BMW, are you now in direct competition with Porsche to try and identify which gullible bastuards on this planet you can convince to lighten their wallet by the most amount of money for adding the least amount of "improvement" to base car?

Some will call this good value, for the engineering expertise that goes into this CS edition.

Me, an ECU tune, some carbon fibre bits which saves the weight of a good porcelin bashing session by the driver, and some wheels and mild suspension tuning, and for this bmw want to charge £30k odd, to what is ultimately based on one of the most common sights on british roads a 3/4 series!!! Staggering, but people buying this ste, along with the GTS versions!!!!
Is 'orange peel' paintwork still standard on M cars ?

s

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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D200 said:
The PH comments sections is 100% predicable - it’s the exact same for every single article on the site.

99% [not all – just the 99% - 1% are reasonable/sensible] of posts are idiotic stating the bleeding obvious dumb as fook comments and 99% [again not all – just the 99% - 1% are reasonable/sensible] of people posting are complete and utter know-it-all knobs who are actually just full of s h I t, talking s h i t and just stating their own dumb blinkered opinion that the people who purchase these cars or are considering purchasing couldn’t give a flying fook about.

To save everyone time here is a comment that can be used for every single pistonhead article:

”That car is too slow, too fast, too heavy, too expensive, too ugly, looks same as a diesel, wheels too big, wheels too small, no steering feel, that manufacturer hasn’t made a good car since 1983, doesn’t sound good, fake sound, turbo, I will never buy from this manufacturer again, you can buy a better used car for less, will depreciate massively and so on”

When I say every single article I mean every article – the same crap said in every BMW, Porsche etc etc article or review … Blah blah blah
This.

100%

It is f***ing tedious and is increasingly ruining the reputation of PH as a credible media outlet.

Roma101

838 posts

148 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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ess said:
Is 'orange peel' paintwork still standard on M cars ?

s
Yes. Just don't look too closely and you will be fine.

philmots

4,632 posts

261 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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It looks great and I'm sure they'll sell them all, but if it was my money (not limitless) I'd buy the Competition Pack, it seems better value.

But I suspect someone looking at a Comp Pack M4, this may not be in budget anyway.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Looks awesome and I'd have one if I wanted one. Don't really care for the moaning and largely baseless whining about everything. It's the internet...goes with the territory.

griffgrog

705 posts

247 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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MitchT said:
I like the blue but why on earth would anyone choose to buy a car in that drab bank holiday monday sky grey colour? Also, £89k for an M4 when you could buy an appreciating modern classic like a Ferrari 360 for the same or less. Am I missing something?
Yeah. Not everyone wants a dated, slow 15 year old car, temporarily appreciating or not.