RE: Honda Civic Type R (FK8): Driven

RE: Honda Civic Type R (FK8): Driven

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Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Fan boi's strong on this one already smile

IMO it's slightly better looking than the previous one but still an absolute styling mess. This goes straight to the bottom of the hot hatch pile in terms of styling for me, 140i, you've just been promoted smile

bonecrusher

23 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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wonder why Honda UK doesn't import the v6 accord coupe, better looking machine with 300bhp
sold by the bucketload in the USA

JackThrust

158 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Looks a million times nicer in red than white! A lot of manufacturers seem to pick the worst colours for the press shots, weird.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Looks to be a very good car and IMO far more appealing than a Focus RS or Golf R.

Andy S15

399 posts

128 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Hated the way the FK2 looked at release. Grew to like it after seeing a few on the road.

For a similar sort of reason, I like this. I love how they've just gone mental with it. It knows it's target audience and doesn't give a fk about everyone else. Seeing a modern hot Honda on the roads today is a breath of fresh air in a world of monotone cookie cutter German bore-wagons. I like it for that.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Ahbefive said:
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
As far as I can tell to 60mph this car has only improved on a mk2 focus RS from 8 years ago (2009) by 0.2 of a second.
...and yet the civic would feel massively faster, annihilate the Ford in-gear and bury it on any sequence of corners
Not sure where you are getting your figures from but no, this is no faster in gear than said RS from 8 years ago and due to that and being more refined would not feel faster either.

It would however I should imagine be a fair bit quicker in the corners.
It would also be ~20mph quicker at the top end (assuming the Civic does a genuine 170)

designforlife

3,734 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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bonecrusher said:
wonder why Honda UK doesn't import the v6 accord coupe, better looking machine with 300bhp
sold by the bucketload in the USA
just had a quick read up on these, what a cracking sounding car.



TheBigUnit

364 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Andy S15 said:
Hated the way the FK2 looked at release. Grew to like it after seeing a few on the road.

For a similar sort of reason, I like this. I love how they've just gone mental with it. It knows it's target audience and doesn't give a fk about everyone else. Seeing a modern hot Honda on the roads today is a breath of fresh air in a world of monotone cookie cutter German bore-wagons. I like it for that.
This.

E65Ross

35,118 posts

213 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Is that 0-62mph time meant to be 4.8? 5.8 seconds seems very slow for something with 320bhp and 4WD in this day and age....?

Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
Ahbefive said:
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
As far as I can tell to 60mph this car has only improved on a mk2 focus RS from 8 years ago (2009) by 0.2 of a second.
...and yet the civic would feel massively faster, annihilate the Ford in-gear and bury it on any sequence of corners
Not sure where you are getting your figures from but no, this is no faster in gear than said RS from 8 years ago and due to that and being more refined would not feel faster either.

It would however I should imagine be a fair bit quicker in the corners.
It would also be ~20mph quicker at the top end (assuming the Civic does a genuine 170)
The Focus RS mk2 is quoted as 163 mph top speed, so more like 7 mph less. Not bad given it does with out 8 years developement of aero tech that Honda loves to remind us of.

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Ultrafunkula said:
The Focus RS mk2 is quoted as 163 mph top speed, so more like 7 mph less. Not bad given it does with out 8 years developement of aero tech that Honda loves to remind us of.
I think the "aero tech" such as it is, is focused on reducing lift rather than reducing drag. If it does anything significant at all, it'll be make the car more stable at high speed rather than making it faster.

Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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kambites said:
I think the "aero tech" such as it is, is focused on reducing lift rather than reducing drag. If it does anything significant at all, it'll be make the car more stable at high speed rather than making it faster.
That makes sense, I don't think I'd like like to be doing over 160mph in either though to be honest, aero or not... Top speed is for pubs and 'Ring junkies.

s m

23,262 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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E65Ross said:
Is that 0-62mph time meant to be 4.8? 5.8 seconds seems very slow for something with 320bhp and 4WD in this day and age....?
4wd?

Do you mean the Honda?

HONDA CIVIC TYPE R (FK8)
Engine: 1,996cc, turbocharged 4-cyl
Transmission: six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 320@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,500-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 5.8sec

E65Ross

35,118 posts

213 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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s m said:
E65Ross said:
Is that 0-62mph time meant to be 4.8? 5.8 seconds seems very slow for something with 320bhp and 4WD in this day and age....?
4wd?

Do you mean the Honda?

HONDA CIVIC TYPE R (FK8)
Engine: 1,996cc, turbocharged 4-cyl
Transmission: six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 320@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,500-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 5.8sec
Oops, not sure why I wrote that....5.8 still seems a little slow, no?

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

123 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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All fast FWD are traction limited. Sure, you could stick 295 cup 2's on the front which would help massively, but it won't help the weight transferring to the back, lifting the drive wheels.

I kinda like it. I like that it's not another car trying to be subtle. It looks obviously different to the standard model, which is already pretty funky. Some like it (I do) some don't.

Some people want understated pace, some want ostentatious performance. This appeals more to a Focus RS driver, than a Golf R driver imo.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Ultrafunkula said:
Derek Chevalier said:
Ahbefive said:
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
As far as I can tell to 60mph this car has only improved on a mk2 focus RS from 8 years ago (2009) by 0.2 of a second.
...and yet the civic would feel massively faster, annihilate the Ford in-gear and bury it on any sequence of corners
Not sure where you are getting your figures from but no, this is no faster in gear than said RS from 8 years ago and due to that and being more refined would not feel faster either.

It would however I should imagine be a fair bit quicker in the corners.
It would also be ~20mph quicker at the top end (assuming the Civic does a genuine 170)
The Focus RS mk2 is quoted as 163 mph top speed, so more like 7 mph less. Not bad given it does with out 8 years developement of aero tech that Honda loves to remind us of.
They can quote all they want - it struggled to break 150 in the real world.

Frimley111R

15,690 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Styling is fine....apart from the back end!

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Saw one of these parked near my house in Wiltshire yesterday, oh my.

Cars often look better in the metal but even my wife said something along the lines of 'what the hell is that and why are there bits sticking out everywhere'.

Even as somebody who has previously owned such beauties as the Suzuki Ignis Sport I'm really, really struggling to look past the looks.


Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
They can quote all they want - it struggled to break 150 in the real world.
Really, Can I see your source? I wasn't aware of that.

Regiment

2,799 posts

160 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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The front end looks so much better over the previous gen Type R, Renault really need to hurry up and release the new RS Megane.