RE: Honda Civic Type R (FK8): Driven
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Boot space is class leading... there's a decent vid on YouTube by inside lane which shows that.
Another good review at Evo: http://www.evo.co.uk/honda/civic-type-r/19502/2017...
Another good review at Evo: http://www.evo.co.uk/honda/civic-type-r/19502/2017...
Grown on me hugely.
It doesn't need to be anything other than fwd, i have a fwd Cupra 300, I've driven it in wet and dry and not once have I felt like it needs 4wd.
But then I don't live my life by the traffic light GP and get hard over the 0-60 times. In gear it will be very quick.
For example my Cupra 0-60 is officially 5.7... the heavier 4wd estate is 4.9! Yet mine is quicker at all points other than a standing start. You could say it's as quick as a 5 second 0-60 car.
It amazes me people on this website of all can't grasp something so simple, I'd not expect a guy in the pub to understand but here...
It doesn't need to be anything other than fwd, i have a fwd Cupra 300, I've driven it in wet and dry and not once have I felt like it needs 4wd.
But then I don't live my life by the traffic light GP and get hard over the 0-60 times. In gear it will be very quick.
For example my Cupra 0-60 is officially 5.7... the heavier 4wd estate is 4.9! Yet mine is quicker at all points other than a standing start. You could say it's as quick as a 5 second 0-60 car.
It amazes me people on this website of all can't grasp something so simple, I'd not expect a guy in the pub to understand but here...
philmots said:
Grown on me hugely.
It doesn't need to be anything other than fwd, i have a fwd Cupra 300, I've driven it in wet and dry and not once have I felt like it needs 4wd.
But then I don't live my life by the traffic light GP and get hard over the 0-60 times. In gear it will be very quick.
For example my Cupra 0-60 is officially 5.7... the heavier 4wd estate is 4.9! Yet mine is quicker at all points other than a standing start. You could say it's as quick as a 5 second 0-60 car.
It amazes me people on this website of all can't grasp something so simple, I'd not expect a guy in the pub to understand but here...
Couldn't agree more. My old WRX ppp went like a bIt doesn't need to be anything other than fwd, i have a fwd Cupra 300, I've driven it in wet and dry and not once have I felt like it needs 4wd.
But then I don't live my life by the traffic light GP and get hard over the 0-60 times. In gear it will be very quick.
For example my Cupra 0-60 is officially 5.7... the heavier 4wd estate is 4.9! Yet mine is quicker at all points other than a standing start. You could say it's as quick as a 5 second 0-60 car.
It amazes me people on this website of all can't grasp something so simple, I'd not expect a guy in the pub to understand but here...
d 0-60 but this fk8 would then tear past like it was standing still.Or people who talk about the "all weather ability" of 4wd without appreciating that yes, it may be faster in the wet but it will likely be heavier and less agile/fun in the dry. It ain't rocket science you'd think...
Ed Straker said:
Onehp said:
Ed Straker said:
I love Honda, I really do.
And I like this.
But "perhaps the best hot hatch on sale??"
It wouldn't see which way an A45 went.
There comes a point when FWD and xxx bhp become incompatible - circa 300 I'd say.
Best is not the same as fastest in a straight line. On a dry track, the A45 is left behind as it will be approx 200kg more irl. And fwd can take more as long as the driver knows when and when bot to deploy it. Bit like a very powerful rwd or bike... And I like this.
But "perhaps the best hot hatch on sale??"
It wouldn't see which way an A45 went.
There comes a point when FWD and xxx bhp become incompatible - circa 300 I'd say.
Straight line? what are you talking about?!
It's devastating on a B road, and in all weather too.
ZX10R NIN said:
Those people go & buy a Golf GTI, I like the fact it's different but I'm not a fan of the looks on this newer model I quite liked the FK2's brashness saying that I like the newer exhaust setup & think that would have made the FK2 look less fussy & IMO a better, I still think I'd head Fords way to grab the ST & then visit Mountune for some choice (MR300 Kit Driveline Upgrade & big brake kit) upgrades
45 days until my Mk2 ST is in at Mountune HQ for MR310, RS clutch, quaffed diff, Clubsport (Bilstein) suspension and Alcon/Mountune big brake kit. Very, very excited. Been a long time coming so apologies for taking the opportunity shout about it!By the way I like the look of both this and the FK2 Civic.
Subaru used to offer a 'Spec D' (correct me if I am wrong, that was off the top of my head) with a smaller spoiler and slightly more reserved styling than the normal STI but all of the same mechanical bits.
I wonder if it would be possible to remove the huge boot spoiler as I think it would look rather good without it, unless that is it actually provides an aerodynamic effect and you die above a certain speed without it?
It ticks a lot of boxes for me though this car, especially as the Golf is very, very bland and the Focus RS really not much more interesting to look at, especially with 'ST Line' cars all over the place now as ford try to capitalise in the same way the germans do by writing 'amg' 's-line' or 'M' on everything and anything (sure, that works very well for a lot of the market and is part of the appeal before somebody jumps up to shout that point out but it is nice to see a car stand out from the run of the mill diesels etc)
If I didn't miss it from the article, I wonder how many will make it into the UK, especially as lease / pcp deals dont stack up nearly as well as the competition.
I wonder if it would be possible to remove the huge boot spoiler as I think it would look rather good without it, unless that is it actually provides an aerodynamic effect and you die above a certain speed without it?
It ticks a lot of boxes for me though this car, especially as the Golf is very, very bland and the Focus RS really not much more interesting to look at, especially with 'ST Line' cars all over the place now as ford try to capitalise in the same way the germans do by writing 'amg' 's-line' or 'M' on everything and anything (sure, that works very well for a lot of the market and is part of the appeal before somebody jumps up to shout that point out but it is nice to see a car stand out from the run of the mill diesels etc)
If I didn't miss it from the article, I wonder how many will make it into the UK, especially as lease / pcp deals dont stack up nearly as well as the competition.
Edited by Rick1.8t on Tuesday 13th June 20:52
rob.e said:
PH chaps - any pics of the boot open?
How practical is thing really - space for a dog in the rear on occasional trips? or do i need to stick with fast octavia wagons?
420l to 1580l on the normal civic apparently. Not a full estate replacement but almost then:How practical is thing really - space for a dog in the rear on occasional trips? or do i need to stick with fast octavia wagons?
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/honda/civic/hatc...
G.Fraser said:
45 days until my Mk2 ST is in at Mountune HQ for MR310, RS clutch, quaffed diff, Clubsport (Bilstein) suspension and Alcon/Mountune big brake kit. Very, very excited. Been a long time coming so apologies for taking the opportunity shout about it!
By the way I like the look of both this and the FK2 Civic.
That sounds rather tasty indeed! Have you got a thread in Readers Cars ? Absolutely love the Mountune stuff. Fits my strict OEM nature lol. By the way I like the look of both this and the FK2 Civic.
Would be interesting to compare for example your ST with the OEM Upgrades and the new generation FK8 CTR, Megane etc, on Road, Track, 0-60, 0-100, etc, just to see how far we've come or if anything, not come.
Edited by Mike1990 on Tuesday 13th June 21:17
Thanks for the interest! No I don't have a separate thread, but maybe I'll start one when the time comes. I've never modified a car before and I love the car as standard, so I have high expectations!
The only item I'm not going for is the lightweight wheel upgrade, as when I booked my car in frustratingly Mountune ran out of stock with no view to re-stock the OZ/Mountune wheels. To be fair I'll be spent up anyway really, plus I like the OEM look also (aesthetically it'll remain standard bar the exhaust and being lowered).
A comparison would be very interesting plus excuse to try out other cars!
The only item I'm not going for is the lightweight wheel upgrade, as when I booked my car in frustratingly Mountune ran out of stock with no view to re-stock the OZ/Mountune wheels. To be fair I'll be spent up anyway really, plus I like the OEM look also (aesthetically it'll remain standard bar the exhaust and being lowered).
A comparison would be very interesting plus excuse to try out other cars!
macky17 said:
Couldn't agree more. My old WRX ppp went like a bd 0-60 but this fk8 would then tear past like it was standing still.
Or people who talk about the "all weather ability" of 4wd without appreciating that yes, it may be faster in the wet but it will likely be heavier and less agile/fun in the dry. It ain't rocket science you'd think...
I doubt 4wd would even be quicker in the wet, the 'diff' in the fwd Cupra does magical things and just drags it out of slow corners with no spinning issues at all.d 0-60 but this fk8 would then tear past like it was standing still.Or people who talk about the "all weather ability" of 4wd without appreciating that yes, it may be faster in the wet but it will likely be heavier and less agile/fun in the dry. It ain't rocket science you'd think...
Then it still has its advantages of less weight and drag..
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
Ultrafunkula said:
Derek Chevalier said:
They can quote all they want - it struggled to break 150 in the real world.
Really, Can I see your source? I wasn't aware of that. Nevermind the mk2 RS - the FK2 I drove was noticeably more urgent in-gear than the mk3 RS I tried. 200kg goes a long way...
Not to mention in the real world I've seen a friend's lightly fettled mk1 Focus RS disappear with a couple of '400bhp' mk2's not able to keep up.
I think this new Civic is absolutely awesome looking! It truly looks fast standing still to my eyes. I really hated the FK2 rear 3/4, it looked way too bulbous like an mini-mpv to my eyes, I could never get past it. But then seemingly lots of people think that is better looking than this. What's that? Looks are subjective you say? 
I've never wanted a brand-new-modern-currently-on-sale-today car this much before.
It's great to hear it drives as good as it looks (or better to some people)
Of course, I'd have to change the horrible wheels. TE37s suit this shape pretty well imho.
I've never wanted a brand-new-modern-currently-on-sale-today car this much before.
It's great to hear it drives as good as it looks (or better to some people)
Of course, I'd have to change the horrible wheels. TE37s suit this shape pretty well imho.
It could be the best driving FWD car in the world, but that exterior is possibly the worst looking I have ever seen on a car, a record previously held by the FIAT Multipla.
I did see 2x new normal spec FK8 Civics, one red and one black, at the weekend and they were both horrible even from far away, so I doubt the addition of silly vents and wings is going to help when I see an R in the flesh.
Interior looks pretty dismal too.
Maybe it's just me, but Honda really do seem to have lost the plot at the moment, between horrific designs like this and their shock attempts at building an F1 engine.
I did see 2x new normal spec FK8 Civics, one red and one black, at the weekend and they were both horrible even from far away, so I doubt the addition of silly vents and wings is going to help when I see an R in the flesh.
Interior looks pretty dismal too.
Maybe it's just me, but Honda really do seem to have lost the plot at the moment, between horrific designs like this and their shock attempts at building an F1 engine.
Looking at the vids floating around, two things strike me. The first being it looks very Evo X-esque from side on/three quarter view, the second being that it looks blinkin' huge in comparison to its competition, far more hot saloon than hot hatch.
It'll be really interesting to see how the next RS Megane squares up to this Civic.
It'll be really interesting to see how the next RS Megane squares up to this Civic.
Onehp said:
rob.e said:
PH chaps - any pics of the boot open?
How practical is thing really - space for a dog in the rear on occasional trips? or do i need to stick with fast octavia wagons?
420l to 1580l on the normal civic apparently. Not a full estate replacement but almost then:How practical is thing really - space for a dog in the rear on occasional trips? or do i need to stick with fast octavia wagons?
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/honda/civic/hatc...
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