BMW M2 Accident
Discussion
lee_fr200 said:
Exactly!
I'm going to sound like a miserable old arse, however bear with me; when the inevitable happens, and with your attitude (as far as we can see from your internet persona) it will, I hope you at least look back and learn from the experience.There's nothing wrong with being 'addicted' to speed- it's more about where and when you choose to satiate it.
As it stands you come across very much like a chap who used to have an M2 and made an almighty mess when he chose the wrong place and the wrong time.
...end of preaching..
lee_fr200 said:
Thing is I never actually bulls
tted I said I was building a corsa turbo I was told I was lying as no one had seen it then I was accused of shagging half the members girlfriends
Kind of shut everyone up when I showed the car and I had to show the car as proof I was also told I was bullstting over buying my Ibiza!
Oh n then when I split it and sold it to specky I made 17k on it and ppl actually wanted to see the bank statements
Seems to be a typical sort of thing tbh!
It's alright cos I've been told I don't own my golf gti either
Can I have my golf gti back pleasetted I said I was building a corsa turbo I was told I was lying as no one had seen it then I was accused of shagging half the members girlfriends Kind of shut everyone up when I showed the car and I had to show the car as proof I was also told I was bulls
tting over buying my Ibiza!Oh n then when I split it and sold it to specky I made 17k on it and ppl actually wanted to see the bank statements
Seems to be a typical sort of thing tbh!
It's alright cos I've been told I don't own my golf gti either
mon the fish said:
Update on this - driver is out of hospital, which means Plod is now getting on with his enquiries - I was speaking to the officer investigating this last night.
Plod estimate he was doing 110 past the entrance/exit road, and 80 when he hit the tree. Can't remember what he's being charged with, section 1 something, which apparently means he still has a decent chance of jail time for this
Section 1 is dangerous driving which sounds about right. Plod estimate he was doing 110 past the entrance/exit road, and 80 when he hit the tree. Can't remember what he's being charged with, section 1 something, which apparently means he still has a decent chance of jail time for this
Killboy said:
Because they are young? If it wasnt a M2 it would have been a saxo 
This. High powered cars don't create the mindset. I imagine in the 1980s it would have been l easier to lose the back-end of a 325i, with 170bhp, crap (compared to now) narrow tyres and no driver aids, compared to a massively, sticky, tyred 370bhp M2 loaded up with driver aids and traction control.The price of the car is irrelevant. All thinhs being equal, younger people are more prone to push the limits, as their focus on the likelihood and repercussions of it going wrong is less than for those with a few more years under their belt.
daemon said:
And just in case anyone did actually believe it was only young people couldnt handle powerful cars when showing off at roundabouts...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQNXFL9FtXQ
Seen this before, can someone tell me what happened here please as I still have no idea how he was able to do that... I've only driven a couple of RWD cars and not at high speed (only on motorways).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQNXFL9FtXQ
Edited by daemon on Saturday 28th April 18:19
Just an update on the original accident.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/cou...
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/cou...
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th January 15:31
So this dude avoids jail yet the 40 in a 30 victimless crime MP doesn’t (albeit only three months) ?
Lying to get out of a speeding ticket shouldn’t even be a crime, the idiotic s172 is an assault on our rights and deserves to be fought.
Driving like a tool into a tree whilst nearly killing someone on the other hand ?
But no, apparently minor speeding infractions are worse than mass murder. Outrageous.
Lying to get out of a speeding ticket shouldn’t even be a crime, the idiotic s172 is an assault on our rights and deserves to be fought.
Driving like a tool into a tree whilst nearly killing someone on the other hand ?
But no, apparently minor speeding infractions are worse than mass murder. Outrageous.
Monkeylegend said:
Schmed said:
So this dude avoids jail yet the 40 in a 30 victimless crime MP does (albeit only three months) ?
Lying to get out of a speeding ticket shouldn’t even be a crime, the idiotic s172 is an assault on our rights and deserves to be fought.
Driving like a tool into a tree whilst nearly killing someone on the other hand ?
But no, apparently minor speeding infractions are worse than mass murder. Outrageous.
Perverting the course of justice and she deserves all she gets.Lying to get out of a speeding ticket shouldn’t even be a crime, the idiotic s172 is an assault on our rights and deserves to be fought.
Driving like a tool into a tree whilst nearly killing someone on the other hand ?
But no, apparently minor speeding infractions are worse than mass murder. Outrageous.
But that’s my point. Using PCoJ in these minor speeding cases is grossly excessive.
Considering an offence of serious injury by dangerous driving was created to increase the sentencing power over 'ordinary' dangerous driving, which itself carries a maximum of 2 years, I think the young lad has done well here.
Part of me thinks the clink of the prison gates, even if only for a short while, would have had more effect on his likelihood of reoffending and, perhaps more importantly, the deterrent effect to others.
Appreciate there's a cost to incarcerating someone, and that prisons are near capacity, however the cost of a serious injury or fatal accident is many times that of someone spending 3 or 4 months in the state hotel.
Part of me thinks the clink of the prison gates, even if only for a short while, would have had more effect on his likelihood of reoffending and, perhaps more importantly, the deterrent effect to others.
Appreciate there's a cost to incarcerating someone, and that prisons are near capacity, however the cost of a serious injury or fatal accident is many times that of someone spending 3 or 4 months in the state hotel.
Edited by janesmith1950 on Thursday 31st January 19:55
They'll pay out (they will have done already). He didn't crash on purpose and didn't wilfully act in a way he didn't care whether he had one or not.
Insurance doesn't refuse to pay out simply because someone is negligent, otherwise there would be no value in it other than third party!
Insurance doesn't refuse to pay out simply because someone is negligent, otherwise there would be no value in it other than third party!
Burwood said:
He wasn’t negligent. He was wilfully reckless. Reckless driving includes unlawful and unsafe driving with a disregard for the safety of other motorists and pedestrians.
There is zero chance they will pay for his loss. The tree and third party yes. The car may not have been his. If his parents, they will pay. But claim the loss from him. He’s fked
With the greatest of respect, you don't know what you're talking about. There is zero chance they will pay for his loss. The tree and third party yes. The car may not have been his. If his parents, they will pay. But claim the loss from him. He’s f
kedThey will have paid out.
They could only avoid doing so if they could prove he purposely crashed or was entirely indifferent as to whether he did or not.
That's a much higher bar than you think.
Tim bo said:
Disagree. There is a simple threshold here and it is a legal one.
If the police see fit to press charges, then it is not an accident. And as such any insurance policy held by the perpetrator is at that point void.
Disagree all you like. You're wrong (said by someone convicted of dangerous driving, writing their car off in the process, and being paid out on full, without question). If the police see fit to press charges, then it is not an accident. And as such any insurance policy held by the perpetrator is at that point void.
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