Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k vol 2

Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k vol 2

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dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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That looks great - What's the spec?

BorniteIdentity

1,055 posts

131 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Just checking in - as this is a most excellent thread.

Fast Bug

11,725 posts

162 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Hi said:
I've done it again (must be the 4th or 5th time on this thread!) and bought this:



It's an absolute hoot to drive, just like a go cart.
I saw that car on Instagram over Christmas, bloody love it! Readers ride thread?

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Hi said:
I've done it again (must be the 4th or 5th time on this thread!) and bought this:



It's an absolute hoot to drive, just like a go cart.
Good work! Please tell us a lot more!

Hi

1,362 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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It's a 704cc water cooled 2cyl.

I bought it as it is and just plan on running it as is and maybe tidy up some of the bodywork as I go.

It's mot'd for a few months, previous owner did loads of welding on it and pretty much a whole new front end. It has discs on the front along with coilovers (as well as the leaf springs) so it is a little stiff but not unbearably so.

I love it, it's a great little thing to drive!

pingu393

7,843 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Hi said:
It's a 704cc water cooled 2cyl.

I bought it as it is and just plan on running it as is and maybe tidy up some of the bodywork as I go.

It's mot'd for a few months, previous owner did loads of welding on it and pretty much a whole new front end. It has discs on the front along with coilovers (as well as the leaf springs) so it is a little stiff but not unbearably so.

I love it, it's a great little thing to drive!
I'd love to fit electric motors in something like that.

BorniteIdentity

1,055 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I've just agreed to buy a car and whilst this is what I really want, I just can't tie up £4k in a 5th car right now. So I'm going to stay in the shallow end whilst someone else does it properly.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Granada-MK2-2-3-Co...

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I wonder how much this early e23 is? A great colour. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C889406


tobinen

9,240 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Agree on the colour. Very good.

Horsetan

410 posts

208 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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0a said:
I wonder how much this early e23 is? A great colour. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C889406

I bet the seller's been running it round Ireland on its UK plates without MoT or tax....

No MoT since November last year, and no VED since February 1999. It'll be VED-exempt from next year anyway.

E23s not really that desirable, and the carburettor 728 is the base spec...and thirsty with it - they have languished for years in the shadow of their E24 flagship sisters which themselves haven't commanded much until relatively recently. £1500 used to secure a very presentable E23.

I wouldn't like to guess the actual mileage - the failure of the speedo is likely to be a sheared cable or a split gear (it will happen with age) inside the speedo mechanism - it is repairable and you can buy the correct cogs for it, but it's a faff to get the instrument display out to do it - you have to unbolt and drop the steering column, then undo all manner of screws....




Edited by Horsetan on Saturday 6th January 15:13

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Horsetan said:
0a said:
I wonder how much this early e23 is? A great colour. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C889406

I bet the seller's been running it round Ireland on its UK plates without MoT or tax....

No MoT since November last year, and no VED since February 1999. It'll be VED-exempt from next year anyway.

E23s not really that desirable, and the carburettor 728 is the base spec...and thirsty with it - they have languished for years in the shadow of their E24 flagship sisters which themselves haven't commanded much until relatively recently. £1500 used to secure a very presentable E23.

I wouldn't like to guess the actual mileage - the failure of the speedo is likely to be a sheared cable or a split gear (it will happen with age) inside the speedo mechanism - it is repairable and you can buy the correct cogs for it, but it's a faff to get the instrument display out to do it - you have to unbolt and drop the steering column, then undo all manner of screws....




Edited by Horsetan on Saturday 6th January 15:13
I love the design of the e23s - more than e24s (I'm strange). Values are hard to pin down, as you say the e23s were worth so little, meaning few remain. My old one also had a non working speedo, along with a number of other faults so I moved it on at a loss. I regret not putting it in a garage now.

I like early 'pure' cars even though they are inevitably worse than subsequent updates, so I think this one looks great!

nosuchuser

837 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Lord.Vader said:
Fit a massive turbo

Yes.

loudlashadjuster

5,139 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Lord.Vader said:
That seems well priced.

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

145 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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loudlashadjuster said:
That seems well priced.
Even at 331,000 miles? Yep, three hundred and thirty one thousand miles.

I know I know, mileage is nothing to be scared of. Assuming it's been loved....

Springs (suspension, valve springs, accelerator, brake and clutch return springs) seals of all manner, hoses, electrical connections, relays, wire, motors, the driver seat, the control interfaces (steering wheel, pedals, armrests, seat bolsters....)... All this stuff takes a beating.

On something so old and so basic (in terms of complexity for repair) almost none of what I've listed is a difficult or expensive job to do. The parts might not be cheap, but it's just big Lego, so the labour will be pretty fair, even for big jobs - like a top end overhaul - when compared to something from the last millennia.

The problem is, for me, it would need to be cheeeeeeeeeeap to offset these little bd jobs cropping up all the time. Not expensive individually, but I'd fear a bit too frequent - and thus expensive.

At the right price this looks like a good deal, but it's a bit rich for me currently.

loudlashadjuster

5,139 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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TobyLerone said:
Even at 331,000 miles? Yep, three hundred and thirty one thousand miles.

I know I know, mileage is nothing to be scared of. Assuming it's been loved....

Springs (suspension, valve springs, accelerator, brake and clutch return springs) seals of all manner, hoses, electrical connections, relays, wire, motors, the driver seat, the control interfaces (steering wheel, pedals, armrests, seat bolsters....)... All this stuff takes a beating.

On something so old and so basic (in terms of complexity for repair) almost none of what I've listed is a difficult or expensive job to do. The parts might not be cheap, but it's just big Lego, so the labour will be pretty fair, even for big jobs - like a top end overhaul - when compared to something from the last millennia.

The problem is, for me, it would need to be cheeeeeeeeeeap to offset these little bd jobs cropping up all the time. Not expensive individually, but I'd fear a bit too frequent - and thus expensive.

At the right price this looks like a good deal, but it's a bit rich for me currently.
I had a 1993 diesel S124 that had about that mileage when I sold it in 2009. It was utterly solid and dependable throughout my ownership and I would've happily driven it to Beijing. Parts, when they did need replacing, were cheap and readily available from M-B dealers, you didn't generally ever need to go to ECP etc.

In about 45-50k miles I think the only mechanical parts it needed were a propshaft bushing and engine mounts.

Cliché I know, but mileage not really an issue, these things last and prices for the older ones are only going one way.

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

145 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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loudlashadjuster said:
I had a 1993 diesel S124 that had about that mileage when I sold it in 2009. It was utterly solid and dependable throughout my ownership and I would've happily driven it to Beijing. Parts, when they did need replacing, were cheap and readily available from M-B dealers, you didn't generally ever need to go to ECP etc.

In about 45-50k miles I think the only mechanical parts it needed were a propshaft bushing and engine mounts.

Cliché I know, but mileage not really an issue, these things last and prices for the older ones are only going one way.
Fair one. I just don't trust that the previous owners loved their high mileage motors like I love mine.

I'd still want a lower price or lower mileage for that price though. I wouldn't ever be scared of owning >moon mileage cars, but I'm fully aware that at this age and mileage things are just getting worn out.

As I said, eyes open and prepared for farty bits and repairs, and you'll have a good time. Think you can treat it like a 1yr old Honda... not so much.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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I'm not a massive fan of the W123, but I really do like that. I'd really enjoy driving that, I think.

Slow is one thing when you're 17 and can't afford to insure a quicker car, at some point it just becomes a bit less relevant as the novelty of fairly quick cars wears off.

pingu393

7,843 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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If that Merc was £1500, I'd take a punt, but for £3500 I'd want a more warm fuzzy feeling in my unmentionables.