Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k vol 2

[KTMsm]

Jaguar steve said:

Like most '70s and '80s cars they've disintegrated to nothing unfortunately.

Even when they were main dealer bread and butter we had loads of problems with crap build quality and flaky electrics

They weren't really anything special to drive though - they were a simply styling exercise

Edited slightly as the same is true for the majority of older cars !

[Pothole]

Skyedriver said:

a great car although the rear discs set up was overkill and seized regularly.

They all do that, sir.

[Jaguar steve]

KTMsm said:

Jaguar steve said:

Like most '70s and '80s cars they've disintegrated to nothing unfortunately.

Even when they were main dealer bread and butter we had loads of problems with crap build quality and flaky electrics

They weren't really anything special to drive though - they were a simply styling exercise

Edited slightly as the same is true for the majority of older cars !

There is that...

But even by the Best of Leyland gold standard some aspects like interior trim and electrics were pretty fragile and boy could some of them rot. We had half a dozen immaculate R16s in the yard that sales had taken in px with the rear torsion bars about to erupt through the boot floor as just one example.

Engines and gearboxes on the other hand lasted for ever. One customers R18 used as a 24/7 airport taxi racked up 250k miles which is pretty impressive even now.

[Pookie123]

Derventio said:

This is entirely more like it!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011216...

Love that.

[Fast Bug]

Jaguar steve said:

There is that...

But even by the Best of Leyland gold standard some aspects like interior trim and electrics were pretty fragile and boy could some of them rot. We had half a dozen immaculate R16s in the yard that sales had taken in px with the rear torsion bars about to erupt through the boot floor as just one example.

Engines and gearboxes on the other hand lasted for ever. One customers R18 used as a 24/7 airport taxi racked up 250k miles which is pretty impressive even now.

Mum (briefly) had a Renault 16, I remember Dad saying that he must've grabbed the only solid bit of chassis when they bought it

[spreadsheet monkey]

Derventio said:

W00DY said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-Renault-Clio-Mk-1-...

This looks fantastically crisp. How hard would it be to chuck in the drivetrain from a 172 or similar?

But what a lovely crisp piece of design it is, though. the 25, of this era was especially nice in my opinion.

I had a four door in this colour but mine was a 1.9 non turbo Diesel RT. Although the idea of a diesel sans forced induction sounds horrific today, In reality, the 63bhp offered up moved it along quite acceptably. It was totally reliable, too, which was a surprise.

Talking of Renaults, I once owned this:

I can't remember that last time I saw one.

The early 1990s were a high water mark for Renault. Agree those early first generation Clios look crisp and neat compared to todays blobby superminis.

The Clio was the 1991 European Car of the Year, and was a regular top 10 seller in the UK in the early years of its life. The "Nicole and Papa" TV adverts were memorable and successful.

Subsequent generations may have been objectively "better", but the Clio became blander and more bulbous with each generation.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/25-yea...

[Chrishum]

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

Over budget and a lot of money IMO for a MK4 escort at a bag over thread budget.

But it's been well used and the history is great.

1989, Allen of Romford, 1st service, 1090 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
1990, Allen Ford, 6000 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1991, Allen Ford, 9558 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1993, Allen Ford, 13721 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1994, Ford Billericay Service Station, 15756 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1995, Allen Ford, 19666 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1997, invoice, Allen Ford, 23902 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2000, Essex Ford, 31466 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2002, Essex Ford, 34297 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2003, Essex Ford, 35943 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2004, Essex Ford, 37441 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2005, Essex Ford, 39001 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2006, Essex Ford, 40462 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2007, Essex Ford, 41570 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2008, Essex Ford, 42304 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2009, Essex Ford, 43981 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2010, Essex Ford, 45905 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2011, EAG Ford, 46915 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2012, EAG Ford, 49099 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2013, EAG Ford, 51185 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2014, EAG Ford, 53002 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2015, EAG Ford, 54689 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2016, EAG Ford, 56570 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2017, EAG Ford, 57802 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2018, EAG Ford, 59076 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2020, Allen Ford, 60673 miles, invoice, not stamped in service book

[KTMsm]

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

Over budget and a lot of money IMO for a MK4 escort at a bag over thread budget.

But it's been well used and the history is great.

1989, Allen of Romford, 1st service, 1090 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
1990, Allen Ford, 6000 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1991, Allen Ford, 9558 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1993, Allen Ford, 13721 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1994, Ford Billericay Service Station, 15756 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1995, Allen Ford, 19666 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1997, invoice, Allen Ford, 23902 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2000, Essex Ford, 31466 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2002, Essex Ford, 34297 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2003, Essex Ford, 35943 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2004, Essex Ford, 37441 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2005, Essex Ford, 39001 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2006, Essex Ford, 40462 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2007, Essex Ford, 41570 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2008, Essex Ford, 42304 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2009, Essex Ford, 43981 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2010, Essex Ford, 45905 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2011, EAG Ford, 46915 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2012, EAG Ford, 49099 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2013, EAG Ford, 51185 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2014, EAG Ford, 53002 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2015, EAG Ford, 54689 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2016, EAG Ford, 56570 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2017, EAG Ford, 57802 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2018, EAG Ford, 59076 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2020, Allen Ford, 60673 miles, invoice, not stamped in service book

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

[spreadsheet monkey]

KTMsm said:

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

Advert text says it was a lady owner.

We’ve already got plenty of XR and RS Fords preserved. It’s good to see the vanilla models being properly looked after too.

[ch37]

KTMsm said:

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

Strange comment to make (particuarly in this thread!), the standard models are fast becoming the ones lost to time, the cooking models from pretty much any brand will survive in much bigger numbers.

Also, she's just had it serviced at a main dealer every year and kept the paperwork, hardly exceptional!

[stevemcs]

That xr4x4 will need some metal to make it roadworthy and that escort, it looks tidy but is crying out for a black top with bike carbs.

[p4cks]

spreadsheet monkey said:

It’s good to see the vanilla models being properly looked after too.

Funny you should say that as when I go to classic car shows it’s the vanilla cars which I find people are interested in the most... they’re the ones their Mam/Dad/neighbour/teacher used to own and ones which are more likely to invoke a memory rather than a suped up old RS

[nobrakes]

KTMsm said:

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

Over budget and a lot of money IMO for a MK4 escort at a bag over thread budget.

But it's been well used and the history is great.

1989, Allen of Romford, 1st service, 1090 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
1990, Allen Ford, 6000 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1991, Allen Ford, 9558 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1993, Allen Ford, 13721 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1994, Ford Billericay Service Station, 15756 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1995, Allen Ford, 19666 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
1997, invoice, Allen Ford, 23902 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2000, Essex Ford, 31466 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2002, Essex Ford, 34297 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2003, Essex Ford, 35943 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2004, Essex Ford, 37441 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2005, Essex Ford, 39001 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2006, Essex Ford, 40462 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2007, Essex Ford, 41570 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2008, Essex Ford, 42304 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2009, Essex Ford, 43981 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2010, Essex Ford, 45905 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2011, EAG Ford, 46915 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2012, EAG Ford, 49099 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2013, EAG Ford, 51185 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2014, EAG Ford, 53002 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2015, EAG Ford, 54689 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2016, EAG Ford, 56570 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2017, EAG Ford, 57802 miles, no invoice, stamped in service book
2018, EAG Ford, 59076 miles, invoice, stamped in service book
2020, Allen Ford, 60673 miles, invoice, not stamped in service book

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

It’s lucky to even have a passenger door mirror.

It’s expensive, but should hold if you look after it with that provenance.

[spreadsheet monkey]

nobrakes said:

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

It’s lucky to even have a passenger door mirror.

Four speed gearbox and bare steel wheels with no wheel trims. For the kind of miserable cheapskate who looked at the 1.3 L and thought "nah, that's too opulent and luxurious for me".

[CharlesdeGaulle]

spreadsheet monkey said:

nobrakes said:

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

It’s lucky to even have a passenger door mirror.

Four speed gearbox and bare steel wheels with no wheel trims. For the kind of miserable cheapskate who looked at the 1.3 L and thought "nah, that's too opulent and luxurious for me".

It's easy to forget how acutely price-driven the market used to be. Money was hard to come by. As a lad I remember the awe I held the three letters on the bootlid of my pals dad's car compared to our base snotter.

[LuS1fer]

KTMsm said:

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

I once recommended a Ford Escort Mk 3 1100L to a first time driver because it was a Ford, probably reliable and a best seller.

Then I drove it. God, it was bad, heavy steering, wooden brakes, dangerously slow. So sure, it may remind you of a past era and inspire rose tints but did anyone drive these cynical lumps of steel, iron and plastic?

[ch37]

spreadsheet monkey said:

Four speed gearbox and bare steel wheels with no wheel trims. For the kind of miserable cheapskate who looked at the 1.3 L and thought "nah, that's too opulent and luxurious for me".

Looks lovely on steelies to my eyes, currently looking at new Dacia Dusters and was pleased to note that due to a (presumably cost saving) quirk in the line-up, you can get the 'Essential' model with steelies as long as you spec the (no-cost) extra of having an additional LPG tank.

[Zener]

LuS1fer said:

KTMsm said:

Such a shame that the owner looked after such a crap car so well - he could have preserved an XR3i or something and it would be worth a hell of a lot more

I once recommended a Ford Escort Mk 3 1100L to a first time driver because it was a Ford, probably reliable and a best seller.

Then I drove it. God, it was bad, heavy steering, wooden brakes, dangerously slow. So sure, it may remind you of a past era and inspire rose tints but did anyone drive these cynical lumps of steel, iron and plastic?

Not helped by the fact the Valencia push-rod engine was an absolute dog inc the later revisons HCS Endura E etc bloody awful unrefined rattlers making it into the early KA sadly also

[Sticks.]

spreadsheet monkey said:

nobrakes said:

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

It’s lucky to even have a passenger door mirror.

Four speed gearbox and bare steel wheels with no wheel trims. For the kind of miserable cheapskate who looked at the 1.3 L and thought "nah, that's too opulent and luxurious for me".

Iirc the basic car was a 1.4 (CVH?) by then, so the 1.3 Popular really was the cheapest version, using the old engine. Amazingly well preserved, so good to see one like that. Would look good in the Haynes museum.

[spreadsheet monkey]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

spreadsheet monkey said:

nobrakes said:

Chrishum said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1324105

It’s lucky to even have a passenger door mirror.

Four speed gearbox and bare steel wheels with no wheel trims. For the kind of miserable cheapskate who looked at the 1.3 L and thought "nah, that's too opulent and luxurious for me".

It's easy to forget how acutely price-driven the market used to be. Money was hard to come by. As a lad I remember the awe I held the three letters on the bootlid of my pals dad's car compared to our base snotter.

Agreed. I passed my test in 1994 and my early driving experiences were in late '80s Fiestas and Metros. I can remember rear wash/wipe, front seat headrests, and passenger door mirrors being "luxuries" that weren't offered on the basic Popular or City models.

Sticks. said:

Iirc the basic car was a 1.4 (CVH?) by then, so the 1.3 Popular really was the cheapest version, using the old engine. Amazingly well preserved, so good to see one like that. Would look good in the Haynes museum.

According to Wikipedia you could still get a 1.1 in your Escort in 1989

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)...