RE: New Jaguar XF Sportbrake revealed

[GTEYE]

driveontheleft said:

Looks good. Will make a fine police car, I reckon. The 5 series is a fine car but why do our police use BMWs?

Well you have to assume if the public get 25-30% off, the police must be getting an even better deal....

Back on the XF, although the saloon has been out a little while now, I wouldn't say the roads are exactly flooded with them, subjectively at least.

I wonder how well its selling?

[GTEYE]

powerstroke said:

daemon said:

Are they?

Or is demand extremely low?

If you look for a BMW 5 series petrol estate on autotrader there are 0 petrol variants available up to 1 year old, and even dropping back to 4 years old only yields 1 - and thats bearing in mind BMW offer 520i, 530i and 540i variants....

wait until people work out the car tax and the list prices , diesel isn't that atractive now unless you do big miles

But many of these cars are fleet owned and do big miles, and that's why diesel will continue to be the default choice for them for a good while to come.

[LewisR]

Probably not launching V6 petrol as that is an out going engine. New I6 petrol should be along soon.

[Bladedancer]

Fine looking car.
Now go and make that XFR version

[king arthur]

GTEYE said:

Well you have to assume if the public get 25-30% off, the police must be getting an even better deal....

Back on the XF, although the saloon has been out a little while now, I wouldn't say the roads are exactly flooded with them, subjectively at least.

I wonder how well its selling?

Subjectively, I see loads of them every day. The problem might be that the XE and XF look so similar from a distance you're never sure which one it is. Only the rear light cluster and six-light glass area gives the XF away.

[Glasgowrob]

now that is lovely, anyone care to deposit 40k into my bank account

[GTEYE]

king arthur said:

GTEYE said:

Well you have to assume if the public get 25-30% off, the police must be getting an even better deal....

Back on the XF, although the saloon has been out a little while now, I wouldn't say the roads are exactly flooded with them, subjectively at least.

I wonder how well its selling?

Subjectively, I see loads of them every day. The problem might be that the XE and XF look so similar from a distance you're never sure which one it is. Only the rear light cluster and six-light glass area gives the XF away.

Subjectively I'm not seeing that many XE's either, but I do agree its the Russian doll syndrome again...

Maybe the BMW/Audi/Benz rivals have all engine/body/trim permutations covered from launch (or close to it) which maybe disadvantages Jag a degree?

[RogerExplosion]

Big Want! I like Wagons so much more than SUVS. If they put an I6 in that I might have to save up.

[CPWilliams]

Jag please ditch the two-tone leathers, they are not nice!

[Fast Bug]

GTEYE said:

powerstroke said:

daemon said:

Are they?

Or is demand extremely low?

If you look for a BMW 5 series petrol estate on autotrader there are 0 petrol variants available up to 1 year old, and even dropping back to 4 years old only yields 1 - and thats bearing in mind BMW offer 520i, 530i and 540i variants....

wait until people work out the car tax and the list prices , diesel isn't that atractive now unless you do big miles

But many of these cars are fleet owned and do big miles, and that's why diesel will continue to be the default choice for them for a good while to come.

Lots of fleets have opened up their company car listings to allow petrol and petrol/hybrids. Some fleets are looking at taking diesel off their list, and some have already done so. If you look at manufacturers websites around Europe, you'll see a lot more large petrol models than we get over here

[mondeomk4]

This looks very nice

Why though do UK buyers not get the V6 petrol?

[Bladedancer]

mondeomk4 said:

This looks very nice

Why though do UK buyers not get the V6 petrol?

Because everyone in UK was buying diesels for the past 15-odd years, regardless if it made sense or not, so manufacturers stopped bothering with petrol (look at UK's Audi A6 range vs German range).

[E65Ross]

Not sure I understand the comment about the estate not being dead yet.....Last time I checked you could still get one from BMW, Mercedes, Audi, VW, Volvo, Ford....and many more manufacturers too!

[BlueHave]

CPWilliams said:

Jag please ditch the two-tone leathers, they are not nice!

Agree, the majority of XF down the lower end of the used market have two tone.

The XJ has this awful brown and beige combo which you see on 2010 onwards cars. Yuk

[Ninja59]

driveontheleft said:

Looks good. Will make a fine police car, I reckon. The 5 series is a fine car but why do our police use BMWs?

Modified to plod spec at factory not aftermarket, which is why bmw's are most common, 5 series is effectively a customised 530D, similar for the X5. Added to this is they can pull in to any bmw dealer for it to be fixed (alongside some forces having their own repair teams, but some dont have that anymore as it is more cost effective for them to use bmw).

Volvos were bodged to do some elements that were not originally intended by Volvo.

Jags were on some forces but from what i heard were heavy on costs, certain parts of yorkshire have the odd Audi...

[Ninja59]

CPWilliams said:

Jag please ditch the two-tone leathers, they are not nice!

And if judged by the f pace poor quality leather...alongside the multitude of f pace issues

[Edition87]

Christ thats beautiful

[BlueHave]

Ninja59 said:

CPWilliams said:

Jag please ditch the two-tone leathers, they are not nice!

And if judged by the f pace poor quality leather...alongside the multitude of f pace issues

Is it similar to the rubbish leather they used to put in Renault Sport Clio which had barbed wire nicks all over them.

[Rindergulasch]

I don't get why Alfa isn't building a Giulia sportwagon. The 156/159 were really beautiful, and they're throwing away a big part of the target market.