Where to acquire legal pressed metal plates?
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V8 TEJ said:
I couldn't argue with the copper, he said what he said, and gave me a £100 fine at the roadside 
I tried to raise the point about the reflective film. He said "Yes, there is a sticky film used which is sandwiched in between 2 layers. This means it is made of reflective material as opposed to being sprayed which can get chipped/damaged easier.
If a plate is damaged as to be unreadable that's a separate offense, until then you complied, assuming there isn't specific legislation to cover the materials in full (which we haven't yet proved).I tried to raise the point about the reflective film. He said "Yes, there is a sticky film used which is sandwiched in between 2 layers. This means it is made of reflective material as opposed to being sprayed which can get chipped/damaged easier.
It seems odd there isn't a definitive document of BS AU 145d which is easy to find...
CraigyMc said:
ashleyman said:
CraigyMc said:
ashleyman said:
This is the legislation it points too
https://www.bnma.org/legislation.html
I do not see where it says
the number plate must be made of acrylic.
Please show your sources.
On the page you linked to (https://www.bnma.org/legislation.html), it says this:https://www.bnma.org/legislation.html
I do not see where it says
the number plate must be made of acrylic.
Please show your sources.
read your own links said:
COMPONENTS
The new British Standard requires the following:-
Acrylic
A new toughened acrylic has been introduced with a stronger impact.
The new British Standard requires the following:-
Acrylic
A new toughened acrylic has been introduced with a stronger impact.
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k off troll.ashleyman said:
But it doesn't say it must be made of a specific material.
Correct!Managed to find a copy of the legislation, and assuming the reflective paint applied is reasonably durable they are perfectly legal.
Krikkit said:
ashleyman said:
But it doesn't say it must be made of a specific material.
Correct!Managed to find a copy of the legislation, and assuming the reflective paint applied is reasonably durable they are perfectly legal.
I then explained the research I had done and read to her the legislation I had on my screen, I also read to her the bit on the BNMA and she said she wasn't sure now so would go away to check again. 5 minutes later she picked up the phone and said I was right. It is not clear and there are no material requirements of what it could made out of. Therefore so long as the number plate confirms to the 3 rules which are:
• reflective
• white background at the frontand a yellow background at the back
• black letters and numbers in the correct font for the age of the vehicle
the DVLA were satisfied that the number plate would be legal.
So that's my mind made up. Cant get any better than that.
Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 22 June 13:33
TooMany2cvs said:
LewG said:
I believe the black/silver pressed metal plates are only legal on vehicles first registered pre-1973 but at the end of the day who's it hurting?
Rolling 40 now, with the historic VED. Somebody dropped a bit of a boob in one bit of legislation, so other bits had to be amended sharpish.They're still anachronistic on anything post about 1968 or so, except for 1980s London buses...
graham22 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
LewG said:
I believe the black/silver pressed metal plates are only legal on vehicles first registered pre-1973 but at the end of the day who's it hurting?
Rolling 40 now, with the historic VED. Somebody dropped a bit of a boob in one bit of legislation, so other bits had to be amended sharpish.They're still anachronistic on anything post about 1968 or so, except for 1980s London buses...
p8 - http://fbhvc.co.uk/members-pages/newsletter-archiv...
FBHVC Newsletter 4/15 said:
Non-Reflective Number Plates
At every meeting with DVLA we learn something completely new! In this case it is that the end date for black and white (or silver and white) number plates is linked to the historic tax class date. So we were told that non-reflective plates are now permitted on vehicles built before 1 January 1975.
p7 - http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/members-pages/newsletter-ar...At every meeting with DVLA we learn something completely new! In this case it is that the end date for black and white (or silver and white) number plates is linked to the historic tax class date. So we were told that non-reflective plates are now permitted on vehicles built before 1 January 1975.
FHBVC Newsletter 5/16 said:
My thanks to the member who drew our attention to an MoT problem with black and white/silver registration plates. We reported correctly last year that the date up to which these plates were permitted had become linked to the historic tax class; that is 40 years old. Thus currently vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1976 are permitted to use black and white plates. However this revision to the Regulations has not yet reached the MoT Testers Manual where the cut-off date is still quoted as 1 January 1973. DVSA have informed us that the manual will be revised ASAP but until it is the MoT status of vehicles manufactured between 1 January 1973 and 1 January 1976 which are tted with black and white plates will have to be established on a case by case basis. It may unfortunately be necessary on occasion to explain this to an individual tester.
I've never been stopped or failed an mot for them.
Contact Neil at rockvale graphics. £35 plus a couple of quid postage.
http://www.rockvalegraphics.co.uk/products.html
Contact Neil at rockvale graphics. £35 plus a couple of quid postage.
http://www.rockvalegraphics.co.uk/products.html
Well I've got some on order. I'll keep plastic plates in the boot. As I said we don't fail MOT's on them unless they are illegally spaced or have the wrong font and don't have the stamp, and I get my MOT's done here now anyway... if they were confirmed illegal I wouldn't bother. But I can't see anything to 100% set in stone say they are illegal.
sparks_E39 said:
Well I've got some on order. I'll keep plastic plates in the boot. As I said we don't fail MOT's on them unless they are illegally spaced or have the wrong font and don't have the stamp, and I get my MOT's done here now anyway... if they were confirmed illegal I wouldn't bother. But I can't see anything to 100% set in stone say they are illegal.
I realised that despite keeping mine in the boot just in case it's been through at least 2 MOTs if not 3-4 with them on. Can't see it being an issue ever.I have metal pressed plates which have the BS AU145d marking on them.
As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm apparently a "massive bell end."
As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm apparently a "massive bell end."
hornmeister said:
I have metal pressed plates which have the BS AU145d marking on them.
As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm arrantly a massive bell end.
As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm arrantly a massive bell end.
Call me blind, but I can't see the BS number or post code.
hornmeister said:
I have metal pressed plates which have the BS AU145d marking on them.
As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm apparently a "massive bell end."
You massive bellend As I understand it as long as they're reflective and conform to font/size/spacing/colour have the BS number and postcode of the manufacturer on they're legal.
Many people selling them on Amazon and elsewhere. Mine were less than £20 including mounting plates.
In my opinion they're smarter more durable and more legible than acrylic. But because I have them I'm apparently a "massive bell end."
Looks great! I've gone with the GB logo, think I'll order plain too and see what I think.
GrumpyTwig said:
mybrainhurts said:
Call me blind, but I can't see the BS number or post code.
/edit in fact you can make it out slightly on that pic at the bottom in the middle.
Sorry, I'm old, you know....
Yep bottom middle starting below the 3 is all the legal details.
Was a dealer called Chipmod on amazon but he doesn't appear to list anymore
I changed the plates as the Merc ones had horrible screws on (why do they do this?) and I wanted to take the GB bit off to make it look cleaner.
We'll probably all have to get that EU bit covered up in 2 years
Was a dealer called Chipmod on amazon but he doesn't appear to list anymore
I changed the plates as the Merc ones had horrible screws on (why do they do this?) and I wanted to take the GB bit off to make it look cleaner.
We'll probably all have to get that EU bit covered up in 2 years
Edited by hornmeister on Thursday 22 June 15:29
hornmeister said:
Yep bottom middle starting below the 3 is all the legal details.
I changed the plates as the Merc ones had horrible screws on (why do they do this) and I wanted to take the GB bit off to make it look cleaner.
We'll probably all have to get that bit covered up in 2 years
I've always wondered why Mercedes always put 4 screws into their number plates. I changed the plates as the Merc ones had horrible screws on (why do they do this) and I wanted to take the GB bit off to make it look cleaner.
We'll probably all have to get that bit covered up in 2 years
Anyway, I got my plates for exactly the same reason. Just to clean things up and get rid of the blue GB logo.
corozin said:
There is no such thing as pressed metal plates that are legal. The law dictates construction material cannot be metal
Incorrect.Pressed plates are perfectly legal.
Can you please point our where in the Display Of Registration Marks Legislation it says that metal is not allowed as a number plate substrate.
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