No-one makes a proper basic rough and ready 4x4

[Bill]

Presumably, like JLR, Toyota have concluded there isn't actually that much of a market for that kind of a vehicle here.

[300bhp/ton]

TooMany2cvs said:

Willy Nilly said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Hold on, though. He also said he wanted seating for 4/5. You ever looked in the back of a SWB Landy?

4 in the back, 3 in the front, a load of tools on the floor in the back and a fuel bowser behind.

Two in the front of any recent Defender. Even on ones with three, the third has to be an amputee anorexic. And the rear seats are side-facing, with all the comfort of a spike.

Rear seats are fine, especially off road or on a site. I've done loads of miles sitting in the back of such vehicles.

Back of mine, it's an 88, not a 90. Plenty of room for 4 adults on the side seats.

[TooMany2cvs]

300bhp/ton said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Willy Nilly said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Hold on, though. He also said he wanted seating for 4/5. You ever looked in the back of a SWB Landy?

4 in the back, 3 in the front, a load of tools on the floor in the back and a fuel bowser behind.

Two in the front of any recent Defender. Even on ones with three, the third has to be an amputee anorexic. And the rear seats are side-facing, with all the comfort of a spike.

Rear seats are fine, especially off road or on a site. I've done loads of miles sitting in the back of such vehicles.

Back of mine, it's an 88, not a 90. Plenty of room for 4 adults on the side seats.

Exactly the same as my own s3 88" SW.

[DonkeyApple]

Well, at least we know what the issue with the Defender was. It wasn't that it was a problem to keep it compliant with EU automotive regulations but it's clear breach of the European Human Rights Act.

[caelite]

DonkeyApple said:

Well, at least we know what the issue with the Defender was. It wasn't that it was a problem to keep it compliant with EU automotive regulations but it's clear breach of the European Human Rights Act.

Haha, there was a fair few articles within the last few years of insurers refusing to insure side mounted bench seats due to the almost guaranteed life changing injuries as a result of a low speed front end collision.

I'd still have them though. , or if I had any care for safety a rear facing seat.